I like how despite this news coming in again and again people are still trying to deny that this is going to happen.
I think that it is very likely (almost certain) that there will be a purple-symboled sub-set in Time Spiral. It will contain only reprints. Akroma will be one of them (she appeared in two ads!). This is furthur supported by the leaked playtest cards from about a year ago, one of which was a reprint and had a "weird" expansion symbol (B for bonus!). It will almost certainly be standard legal. It is not in the orb because Wizards wants to obtain maximum shock value by revealing the news as close to release date as possible. Since the Time Spiral boosters say "15 cards", these must replace one of the normal 15 cards in the boosters unless they come in seperate "bonus" boosters.
They should make booster packs contain 16 cards if the purple cards are true. 1 purple card for each booster pack, not replacing anything, but an additional card. The price hike should provide that 1 extra card.
In thinking of it, I pray that there is more than one slot dedicated to purple cards, otherwise we are looking at a "super rarity" for the purple cards. Which then makes MaRo's statement of 80 rares/ 80 uncommons for ease of collection even more BUNK than usual. Since then it will take even more to try to acquire the "purple" set, it will be *almost* like trying to collect a set of foils (about 4 times easier since there is one per pack instead of 1 per 4-ish packs). *grrrr*
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I like how despite this news coming in again and again people are still trying to deny that this is going to happen.
I like when people are constantly positioning their desires and wishes above sheer facts. Like in the case of so-called "Kamahl" art.
All the 422-news were spawned by the initial confusion. This info is unreliable at least, and I see it as no more confirmative as anything before.
I will just laugh if it turns out that there are absolutely no purple cards in TS, and it will be all only a great hoax to attract attention.
But I will also be angry towards WotC, because they have threatened Hydro because of it.
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Well, if the reprints are "super rare", it will be compensated by previous printings.
As far as the purple thing goes; I simply don't know now. It seems very logical to me that it could have been misinformation given out to people in the development team to help track leaks. *shrugs*
the thing is: why are the reprints purple if you treat them as normal reprints?
Because they have a separate rarity slot. This is very straightforward: expansion symbol color now, and always has, coded for pack collation and nothing else. Tournament-legality is traditionally coded for by borders (gold and silver borders are illegal), while format legality is coded for by expansion symbol or nothing. The idea that purple would be used to represent that cards weren't standard legal was always ridiculous and ignored all precedent for how rarity symbols work.
The idea that the cards are purple just because they're bonus cards and therefore can't be pulled normally from the common, uncommon, or rare slots of a pack, however, fits perfectly with how expansion symbols have always (since Exodus anyway) been colored.
In thinking of it, I pray that there is more than one slot dedicated to purple cards, otherwise we are looking at a "super rarity" for the purple cards. Which then makes MaRo's statement of 80 rares/ 80 uncommons for ease of collection even more BUNK than usual. Since then it will take even more to try to acquire the "purple" set, it will be *almost* like trying to collect a set of foils (about 4 times easier since there is one per pack instead of 1 per 4-ish packs). *grrrr*
Purple doesn't make the set notably more difficult to collect as long as they have a dedicated slot (rather than showing up randomly every few packs like foils do.) The worst-case scenario is that they fill one slot per pack; in that case, it's essentially like you have to collect 201 rares from the set, but you get two per pack. That's probably on the order of as difficult as Onslaught or any other pre-redistribution large set. The better case is that there are 2 or 3 purple cards per pack (or a random distribution of between 1 and 3, say) in which case they'll be easier to collect than normal rares and you'll have no concern whatsoever.
I tend to believe there will be purple reprints after going over all the facts up to now. But more importantly....
SENGIR AUTOCRAT IS BACK! WOOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Rakdos the defiler deck has been waiting for exactly this card! I'm running Rukh Egg right now but this guy would be about a billion times better. Here's hoping it's true!
The more I think about it, the more randomly inserted (as foils are) reprints make sense.
Prediction: They will spin it as follows - that the temporal mess that has been created is causing not only random things to appear from other times in the set - ie, Mishra - but also in the set's cards. Sometimes you will get a random card from another set/time in your Time Spiral cards due to temporal flux.
The only problems (as stated before) are what it would do to limited, and standard. If the cards are legal, then you have a really weird card pool. If they aren't, then drafting/sealed doesn't work and people will get PO'd at opening cards, especially rares, they can't use in standard. Not to say that hasn't happened before, though (Mudhole :rolleyes:), but this would make it happen a lot more frequently.
I like when people are constantly positioning their desires and wishes above sheer facts. Like in the case of so-called "Kamahl" art.
Yeah but did WOTC ask for that image to be taken down?
I think this is just more confirmation to the purple set, and anyone who is saying there's no confirmation yet needs to ask why then would WOTC care about the image? Simple logic.
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I found this info simply browsing the net, please feel free to speculate on it' s validity: I don't know where the info came from originally or if it's real but here it is...
And we all know how the Internet is a bastion against false information...especially completely random sites:raise:
I'll say it again...until WotC actually acknowledges this radical new reprint/limited/purple symbol nonsense and gives us a explanation on what it all means and how it fits together, it's all speculation, hearsay and fanboy wishful thinking.
Purple doesn't make the set notably more difficult to collect as long as they have a dedicated slot (rather than showing up randomly every few packs like foils do.) The worst-case scenario is that they fill one slot per pack; in that case, it's essentially like you have to collect 201 rares from the set, but you get two per pack. That's probably on the order of as difficult as Onslaught or any other pre-redistribution large set. The better case is that there are 2 or 3 purple cards per pack (or a random distribution of between 1 and 3, say) in which case they'll be easier to collect than normal rares and you'll have no concern whatsoever.
Plus, if they are all reprints, you may well already own half of them.
You know what those 3 cards have in common? They all need revised rules text when reprinted.
Shadowmage Infiltrator will have Fear, which wasn't keyworded at the time it was printed. Mindless automaton needs a creature type now that every creature must get a creature type. Sengir Autocrat will get an expanded (or possibly entirely changed) creature type and the type of token he produces will probably change (to Minion is my guess).
If the 100+ reprints are real, I think alot of them will be cards that need to have their printed text changed.
Personally, I'm hoping for Kangee, Aerie Keeper reprint, which would be reprinted as a Bird (or Bird Cleric) and suddenly stop sucking.
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You know what those 3 cards have in common? They all need revised rules text when reprinted.
Shadowmage Infiltrator will have Fear, which wasn't keyworded at the time it was printed. Mindless automaton needs a creature type now that every creature must get a creature type. Sengir Autocrat will get an expanded (or possibly entirely changed) creature type and the type of token he produces will probably change (to Minion is my guess).
Odds are that 9 out of 10 "old" cards would need a rules text revision.
I just want to find out already. This topic has been talked into the ground, really, no matter how much I haven’t or have paid attention to you guys. All I know is this; I play MTGO. Foils are next to pointless, save selling them, or trading foil duals for 2 regular ones. (Or status ... but whatever about that) And their rare. Good chase-rare foils are rare rare. (That’s double rare I personally don’t want to have to pay outta my butt in the auction room for some super rare, super hard to find card. Especially! If they are STD legal. It just doesn’t seem like a good idea for the casual collector, or the casual STD player.
I just want to find out already. This topic has been talked into the ground, really, no matter how much I haven’t or have paid attention to you guys. All I know is this; I play MTGO. Foils are next to pointless, save selling them, or trading foil duals for 2 regular ones. (Or status ... but whatever about that) And their rare. Good chase-rare foils are rare rare. (That’s double rare I personally don’t want to have to pay outta my butt in the auction room for some super rare, super hard to find card. Especially! If they are STD legal. It just doesn’t seem like a good idea for the casual collector, or the casual STD player.
Seriously. I'm actually getting kinda miffed. I hope Maro's next column sheds some light.
My predictions, FWIW.
Purple symbol = reprints.
They are their own rarity. Within TS, every card with a purple icon will have the same rarity. They will not have the same rarity as their original version.
Purple cards will replace a common slot.
As they are a subset, they will not make TS itself any harder or easier to collect. Seriously, if you really feel that having one common slot per pack taken up by a reprint will impact the ability to really collect TS, then... there's nothing I can say.
A purple Finkel is not rare. It is purple, or as some say, super-rare.
These cards are probably considered a bonus by WotC. They are giving players the option to play with cards they've more than likely never seen. For those that have these old cards, they are giving us the option to have them in the new cardframes.
The standard marketing line more than likely applies from their point of view: Magic is a Trading Card Game. Trade for them or trade them away. I can guarantee you that for everyone that doesn't want this reprint filth to contaminate their deck, there's at least one person who just can't wait to have it.
No matter which side you're on, you benefit. If only you'd look at it that way.
I searched some major and common sources of advance info, and found the same thing Hydro did.
That said, here is some additional information that I was able to see:
The purple cards are in THE OLD CARD FRAME, with original art, and flavor text.
However, they ARE errataed to be more in line with recent cards. Mindless Automaton is now Artifact Creature - Construct, for example.
They have the purple TS symbol, of course.
I think that it is very likely (almost certain) that there will be a purple-symboled sub-set in Time Spiral. It will contain only reprints. Akroma will be one of them (she appeared in two ads!). This is furthur supported by the leaked playtest cards from about a year ago, one of which was a reprint and had a "weird" expansion symbol (B for bonus!). It will almost certainly be standard legal. It is not in the orb because Wizards wants to obtain maximum shock value by revealing the news as close to release date as possible. Since the Time Spiral boosters say "15 cards", these must replace one of the normal 15 cards in the boosters unless they come in seperate "bonus" boosters.
Bykov.
I like when people are constantly positioning their desires and wishes above sheer facts. Like in the case of so-called "Kamahl" art.
All the 422-news were spawned by the initial confusion. This info is unreliable at least, and I see it as no more confirmative as anything before.
I will just laugh if it turns out that there are absolutely no purple cards in TS, and it will be all only a great hoax to attract attention.
But I will also be angry towards WotC, because they have threatened Hydro because of it.
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As far as the purple thing goes; I simply don't know now. It seems very logical to me that it could have been misinformation given out to people in the development team to help track leaks. *shrugs*
Because they have a separate rarity slot. This is very straightforward: expansion symbol color now, and always has, coded for pack collation and nothing else. Tournament-legality is traditionally coded for by borders (gold and silver borders are illegal), while format legality is coded for by expansion symbol or nothing. The idea that purple would be used to represent that cards weren't standard legal was always ridiculous and ignored all precedent for how rarity symbols work.
The idea that the cards are purple just because they're bonus cards and therefore can't be pulled normally from the common, uncommon, or rare slots of a pack, however, fits perfectly with how expansion symbols have always (since Exodus anyway) been colored.
Purple doesn't make the set notably more difficult to collect as long as they have a dedicated slot (rather than showing up randomly every few packs like foils do.) The worst-case scenario is that they fill one slot per pack; in that case, it's essentially like you have to collect 201 rares from the set, but you get two per pack. That's probably on the order of as difficult as Onslaught or any other pre-redistribution large set. The better case is that there are 2 or 3 purple cards per pack (or a random distribution of between 1 and 3, say) in which case they'll be easier to collect than normal rares and you'll have no concern whatsoever.
SENGIR AUTOCRAT IS BACK! WOOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My Rakdos the defiler deck has been waiting for exactly this card! I'm running Rukh Egg right now but this guy would be about a billion times better. Here's hoping it's true!
Prediction: They will spin it as follows - that the temporal mess that has been created is causing not only random things to appear from other times in the set - ie, Mishra - but also in the set's cards. Sometimes you will get a random card from another set/time in your Time Spiral cards due to temporal flux.
The only problems (as stated before) are what it would do to limited, and standard. If the cards are legal, then you have a really weird card pool. If they aren't, then drafting/sealed doesn't work and people will get PO'd at opening cards, especially rares, they can't use in standard. Not to say that hasn't happened before, though (Mudhole :rolleyes:), but this would make it happen a lot more frequently.
Yeah but did WOTC ask for that image to be taken down?
I think this is just more confirmation to the purple set, and anyone who is saying there's no confirmation yet needs to ask why then would WOTC care about the image? Simple logic.
And we all know how the Internet is a bastion against false information...especially completely random sites:raise:
I'll say it again...until WotC actually acknowledges this radical new reprint/limited/purple symbol nonsense and gives us a explanation on what it all means and how it fits together, it's all speculation, hearsay and fanboy wishful thinking.
Plus, if they are all reprints, you may well already own half of them.
Shadowmage Infiltrator will have Fear, which wasn't keyworded at the time it was printed.
Mindless automaton needs a creature type now that every creature must get a creature type.
Sengir Autocrat will get an expanded (or possibly entirely changed) creature type and the type of token he produces will probably change (to Minion is my guess).
If the 100+ reprints are real, I think alot of them will be cards that need to have their printed text changed.
Personally, I'm hoping for Kangee, Aerie Keeper reprint, which would be reprinted as a Bird (or Bird Cleric) and suddenly stop sucking.
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Odds are that 9 out of 10 "old" cards would need a rules text revision.
yum yum, i want my purple:jam:
if your dreams come true i would laugh so much since we just kicked erham out of Xth:rofl:
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Seriously. I'm actually getting kinda miffed. I hope Maro's next column sheds some light.
Purple symbol = reprints.
They are their own rarity. Within TS, every card with a purple icon will have the same rarity. They will not have the same rarity as their original version.
Purple cards will replace a common slot.
As they are a subset, they will not make TS itself any harder or easier to collect. Seriously, if you really feel that having one common slot per pack taken up by a reprint will impact the ability to really collect TS, then... there's nothing I can say.
A purple Finkel is not rare. It is purple, or as some say, super-rare.
These cards are probably considered a bonus by WotC. They are giving players the option to play with cards they've more than likely never seen. For those that have these old cards, they are giving us the option to have them in the new cardframes.
The standard marketing line more than likely applies from their point of view: Magic is a Trading Card Game. Trade for them or trade them away. I can guarantee you that for everyone that doesn't want this reprint filth to contaminate their deck, there's at least one person who just can't wait to have it.
No matter which side you're on, you benefit. If only you'd look at it that way.
That said, here is some additional information that I was able to see:
The purple cards are in THE OLD CARD FRAME, with original art, and flavor text.
However, they ARE errataed to be more in line with recent cards. Mindless Automaton is now Artifact Creature - Construct, for example.
They have the purple TS symbol, of course.
This is real, and this is crazy.
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Booooooooo!!! That. ****ing. SUCKS. :mad::mad:. They really dropped the ball there. New frame >>> old frame
It's still cool though. Anything that increases the online cardpool is alright with me.
And if I wanted to see this information for myself, any ideas on where to look?
I'm thinking either Judges FAQ, or card list of some sort.
The info about the Purple keeps getting weirder and weirder...
Edit, appears I'm wrong... but still very interesting to see what comes of this.