The absolute jank: Boiling Seas (......?), Demolish (where's Pillage?), Mana Clash, Goblin Sky Raider, Panic Attack, Rogue Kavu.
Nice to see: Blood Moon (will see much more play this time around IMO), Flame Wave (surf's up!), Flowstone Slide (red Wrath variant), Goblin Balloon Brigade (needed reprinting), Kird Ape, Rathi Dragon, Shard Phoenix, Shivan Dragon.
In the "WTF" category: Form of the Dragon (random, unplayed, as if we don't have enough of this in our trade binders).
Other notes: Seething Song is interesting for a base set.
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I always loved Thundermare.
It is so...sneaky.
I'm liking the choices, creaturewise, and they brought Wildfire back, I see.
Red seems to be better than some of the other colors, with what they chose to reprint, IMO.
I agree that some things, as with the other colors, seem VERY VERY strange to reprint.
Isn't that the fun of it?
I look forward to WoTC trying to explain the random reprints....if they do at all of course.
What is going to make this interesting is the inclusion of Wildfire. Last time this card saw massive play was near the latter part of Saga/Masques T2. And I think it saw some mild Extended play too (prior to the rotation at the time).
As for Seething Song well it was sort of a given considering Red's newest function is mana accel. So this only seems to fit at the moment; if Desperate Ritual wasn't arcane then that would have seen print over this. Although...All we need now is for Mox Diamond of Chrome Mox (hah!) and we've got a second-turn Shivan Dragon to contend with.
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Why all that Slowstone jank?
Form of the Dragon? WTF?
Furnace of Rath.. fun with FOTD
Wow, 6/7 unplayable Goblins. Ick.
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Thundermare and Wildfire are cool..
And what's with Mana Clash again?
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Seething song is indeed interesting for a base set, but red is the official color for fast mana, and it will help play some of those dragons.
Thundermare is a surprise to me, but hey i have 3 of them from portal so i'll take it!
I am so making an LD deck when this set is released. :grin2:
Decent burn, they kept guerilla tactics and pyroclasm, which is good. Also, a friend of mine loves to play with Flamewave, so it's good to see as well, now maybe he'll make a T2 deck. :tongue2: Firebreathing is back, which kinda surprised me. I didn't expect Form of the Dragon at all, nor the Balloon Brigade (although the latter is good to see).
Now, they just need to reprint Fling in Ravnica and we'll be cooking with gas.
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They slowed down Boil (Instant) to Boiling Seas (Sorcery)? I wonder if they will change it to an instant with all the rules changes they are talking about with portal. Other then that, the only real surprise is Form of the Dragon. Alot of multi-creature damage, but that's expected to be with Red.
Seething Song puts a smile on my face with Wildfire. I was just really wishing they'd reprint Arc Lightning, Pillage, and Slith Firewalker. Ah well, at least I got my Rathi Dragons and Shard Phoenix recently.
What surprises me is the exclusion of Vulshok Sorcerer and the inclusion of Anaba Shaman. Well, not really. A tim with haste and a relatively decent ability for three mana--regardless of the coloured-mana spread--is pretty good even for a base set.
I guess red tims are considered balanced at four mana. Stupid craven cows!
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Form of the dragon could see a lot of play in an enduring ideal deck. It keeps off the ground units, sets the opponent on a clock, and keeps them from pinging you to death. Of course, with Kokusho flying around it isnt the best choice, but oh well.
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Not much to get excited about. Kird Ape and Seething Song are obvious pluses. But why Boiling Seas instead of Boil? And Form of the Dragon? What? Not much else to say here.
I cant wait to get a Black bordered, New cardfaced, Foiled Form of the Dragon. I dont use it, but Its great for my collection
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Boiling Seas? WTF?
Rathi Dragon: Glad I voted for that.
Wildfire's back! Cool!
Hill Giant? Go away!
Too many Goblins.
Great to see Kird Ape. Too bad there's no dual lands
Form of the Dragon? I don't think so.
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Boiling SEAS!? They are taking this symetrical hate a little too far... Boil is worthless as a sorcery. Then again, I suppose Boil in a set where blue is this bad would be kicking it when it's down... with an iron boot... fired out of a rail gun.
Anaba Shaman! HA! Seriously though, I'm befuddled at Vulshok Sorcerer not getting in. And again, many of the strange inclusions from 8th are still in 9th... why? I mean, Mogg Sentry?
Well, at least Red still has some instant burn, unlike Blue's portalized card drawing.
Red is going to be a good power house. Form of the dragon is a fun card intended for new players. I just like the idea of turning into a creature, only a few cards in magic have this effect.
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What got me here is that I always thought Shunt was a definite plant for 9th; neither it nor Deflection got in. I guess they don't like target redirection in a base set anymore
Well the lack of Hosers I take back after Red. We keep flashfires, but boil was put into a sorcery for the same cost... But isn't flashfires still a instant? Weird
173 Anarchist
174 Balduvian Barbarians
175 Blaze
176 Blood Moon
177 Bloodfire Colossus
178 Boiling Seas
179 Demolish
180 Enrage
181 Firebreathing
182 Flame Wave
183 Flashfires
184 Flowstone Crusher
185 Flowstone Shambler
186 Flowstone Slide
187 Form of the Dragon
188 Furnace of Rath
189 Goblin Balloon Brigade
190 Goblin Brigand
191 Goblin Chariot
192 Goblin King
193 Goblin Mountaineer
194 Goblin Piker
195 Goblin Sky Raider
196 Guerrilla Tactics
197 Hill Giant
198 Karplusan Yeti
199 Kird Ape
200 Lava Axe
201 Lightning Elemental
202 Magnivore
203 Mana Clash
204 Mogg Sentry
205 Ogre Taskmaster
206 Orcish Artillery
207 Panic Attack
208 Pyroclasm
209 Raging Goblin
210 Rathi Dragon
211 Reflexes
212 Relentless Assault
213 Rogue Kavu
214 Rukh Egg
215 Sandstone Warrior
216 Seething Song
217 Shard Phoenix
218 Shatter
219 Shivan Dragon
220 Shock
221 Stone Rain
222 Sudden Impact
223 Threaten
224 Thundermare
225 Viashino Sandstalker
226 Volcanic Hammer
227 Whip Sergeant
228 Wildfire
The absolute jank: Boiling Seas (......?), Demolish (where's Pillage?), Mana Clash, Goblin Sky Raider, Panic Attack, Rogue Kavu.
Nice to see: Blood Moon (will see much more play this time around IMO), Flame Wave (surf's up!), Flowstone Slide (red Wrath variant), Goblin Balloon Brigade (needed reprinting), Kird Ape, Rathi Dragon, Shard Phoenix, Shivan Dragon.
In the "WTF" category: Form of the Dragon (random, unplayed, as if we don't have enough of this in our trade binders).
Other notes: Seething Song is interesting for a base set.
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I always loved Thundermare.
It is so...sneaky.
I'm liking the choices, creaturewise, and they brought Wildfire back, I see.
Red seems to be better than some of the other colors, with what they chose to reprint, IMO.
I agree that some things, as with the other colors, seem VERY VERY strange to reprint.
Isn't that the fun of it?
I look forward to WoTC trying to explain the random reprints....if they do at all of course.
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As for Seething Song well it was sort of a given considering Red's newest function is mana accel. So this only seems to fit at the moment; if Desperate Ritual wasn't arcane then that would have seen print over this. Although...All we need now is for Mox Diamond of Chrome Mox (hah!) and we've got a second-turn Shivan Dragon to contend with.
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Anyway... a new Colossus that sucks. Bad Tim.
Why all that Slowstone jank?
Form of the Dragon? WTF?
Furnace of Rath.. fun with FOTD
Wow, 6/7 unplayable Goblins. Ick.
Rathi & Shivan
Thundermare and Wildfire are cool..
And what's with Mana Clash again?
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Seething song is indeed interesting for a base set, but red is the official color for fast mana, and it will help play some of those dragons.
Thundermare is a surprise to me, but hey i have 3 of them from portal so i'll take it!
I am so making an LD deck when this set is released. :grin2:
Decent burn, they kept guerilla tactics and pyroclasm, which is good. Also, a friend of mine loves to play with Flamewave, so it's good to see as well, now maybe he'll make a T2 deck. :tongue2: Firebreathing is back, which kinda surprised me. I didn't expect Form of the Dragon at all, nor the Balloon Brigade (although the latter is good to see).
Now, they just need to reprint Fling in Ravnica and we'll be cooking with gas.
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I guess red tims are considered balanced at four mana. Stupid craven cows!
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Form of the Dragon...
Is Form of the Dragon, with its use of the stack and such, really that easy for early players to understand?
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Boiling Seas? WTF?
Rathi Dragon: Glad I voted for that.
Wildfire's back! Cool!
Hill Giant? Go away!
Too many Goblins.
Great to see Kird Ape. Too bad there's no dual lands
Form of the Dragon? I don't think so.
All in all: :slant:
Anaba Shaman! HA! Seriously though, I'm befuddled at Vulshok Sorcerer not getting in. And again, many of the strange inclusions from 8th are still in 9th... why? I mean, Mogg Sentry?
Well, at least Red still has some instant burn, unlike Blue's portalized card drawing.
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Me: If you cast a hypnotic specter I'll punch you in the face
Nick:...ahh I take 3 points of mana burn
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It'd have been cool if Twincast made it in
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I like seeing Karplusan Yeti, too. Wow, that's a welcome blast from the past. And I have black-bordered ones to play with!
I bet they printed Boiling Seas so that they could change it into a rare. And a sorcery.
Aw, Hammer of Bogardan is gone. That one, I'll miss.
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