This is better than Careful Study in 2 ways: You draw 3 cards, and you get to play them before discarding. So if this card is real, it's a good card. It is something that can be printed.
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If this card is real, it's freaking broken. I mean this would be an autoinclude 4-of in all types of storm combo in T1 and T1.5. Playing 4 extra Ancestrals with the only real drawback being another U tacked on to the casting cost? Sign me up!! The only way this is real is if this is the Mind's Desire of SoK. Restricted in T1 and banned in T1.5 before its even legal.
I like it, it boosts your hand for the "wisdom" cards and if you can afford to play all the cards in your hand you don't have to discard anything(of course that means you've got no hand in a blue deck which is bad). It's going to be a good card for any reanimator style decks and its a potent card for older decks like psychatog and madness.
I really like this card, I hope is real, it can not only be useful in block and with the hand mechanic, it has a lot of used in extended too, where tog and madness deck still run rampant. I'd love to play this eot, to later on drop 2 baskings and a wurm.
Ok, a lot of you are comparing this to Ancestral Recall. Now, let me illistrate the differences.
1. It costs fully twice as much. This can't be overstated.
2. It only lets you 'keep' the cards if you have nothing in your hand to start, and can cast all 3 in that one turn. In a heavly blue deck. And blue often requires you to keep cards in your hand, like counterspells, to be used later.
Honestly, the most broken use for this is in a madness/flashback deck. You can load up on cards, then discard stuff like Basking Rootwalla, Roar of the Wurm, and Deep Analysis. Or Isochron Scepter. But there's a lot of fun things you can do with that.
- I'm not saying it is 100% real, but it's hardly unprintable.
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
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Woah. TPS and DeathLong have a new friend. As people have said, this will be restricted in Vintage before it even has a chance to be broken. As for Legacy, it'll probably get the axe there too. I have a feeling it might make Desire go nutty in Extended too (pre or post rotation).
I think this card could be real. It's not even half as powerful as alot of you guys are making it out to be. It's great for based decks that play lots of spells on their turn(combo decks, Mind's Desire, etc) and for a deck like Madness.
Is it really that impressive in a Control deck? Not really. It's card disadvantage by itself. Also, it's not something that you'd even think of casting early in the game.
As for playing it on Isochron Scepter..what would be the point, exactly? To mill yourself in a hurry? You'd be better off using Peer Through Depths on Scepter than a card like this.
So, like I said, in Madness, or a combo deck, this card would most likely shine. But other than that, it's really not very impressive.
Wow this would be pretty decent in TPS. Sac Lotus for UUU, play this, tap some black source for B, cast Ritual, Will, then cast Ritual, Lotus, and Will + bs, rits, etc... all over again
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
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Incorrect. Library of Leng is, like Spellbook, errated. You do have a discard phase, but you don't have a maximum hand size anymore.
Nice thinking, but it won't work, sadly.
I beg to differ, but last time I know, I can put the cards that I'm suppose to discard on top of my library instead of discarding them thanks to then Leng's effect. Or I may be wrong I dont know *runs away*
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
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I have to agree with Bork. Printing this card would just be too powerful. Think of the impact this card would have on vintage? Better yet. Think of how well this card would fit into extended ravffinity? draw 3 card, play them all for free, die. I would be very surprised...
Incorrect. Library of Leng is, like Spellbook, errated. You do have a discard phase, but you don't have a maximum hand size anymore.
Nice thinking, but it won't work, sadly.
Actually your not quite right either. The Library was errated like spellbook as far as the discard phase is concerned, BUT the library still says:
" If an effect causes you to discard a card, discard it, but you may put it on top of your library instead of into your graveyard."
So you no you wont keep the cards in hand, but you still wouldnt lose them either. So, ~THIS CARD~ + Library of Leng = really long scry or Top ability.
I think that this could be real, from what we have seen already of saviors, they obviously arent trying to limit the power level in any way. I mean seriously, that green Legendary Creature/Enchantment flip??? OMFG!!!!
Actually your not quite right either. The Library was errated like spellbook as far as the discard phase is concerned, BUT the library still says:
" If an effect causes you to discard a card, discard it, but you may put it on top of your library instead of into your graveyard."
So you no you wont keep the cards in hand, but you still wouldnt lose them either. So, ~THIS CARD~ + Library of Leng = really long scry or Top ability.
Thank you. So I was right........PARTY!!! :dance::jam::dance2::banana::dance2::jam::dance:
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
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Anyway, what I was trying to point out salomar was that you can still keep the cards due to leng's option to put the discarded cards on the top of your library. I never cared about the skip your discard phase thing since I knew that it got errata'd and that the discard phase is different from the end of turn phase. So I guess its kinda my fault for not explaining it thoroughly in the first place. My bad.
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
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Awww! This is one of the forst cards (except perhaps the fork) that will beef up MUC. I was kind of hoping it would get shafted . nonetheless, awesome find!
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Even if they print this card, MUC rotates out with the Mirrodin block this fall when Ravnica arrives(right?) so its not that much of a threat anymore.
Well I cant say the same for other formats like T1/1.5/1.X :xd::rofl:
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The fact that it is card disadvantage is what might make it unplayable in standard. In other formats, quick draw is good. But in standard, the fact that you lose a card might prove to be it's downfall.
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1. It costs fully twice as much. This can't be overstated.
2. It only lets you 'keep' the cards if you have nothing in your hand to start, and can cast all 3 in that one turn. In a heavly blue deck. And blue often requires you to keep cards in your hand, like counterspells, to be used later.
Honestly, the most broken use for this is in a madness/flashback deck. You can load up on cards, then discard stuff like Basking Rootwalla, Roar of the Wurm, and Deep Analysis. Or Isochron Scepter. But there's a lot of fun things you can do with that.
- I'm not saying it is 100% real, but it's hardly unprintable.
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Cool stuff here.
Turn 2, lay a land go. End of your turn, play this. My turn, draw, lay a land, eot discard Arrogant + Rootwalla + Wonder.
Yummy. I won't even factor in Chrome Mox or the like, I'll play fair.
Add a Myr Mindservant maybe?
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Is it really that impressive in a Control deck? Not really. It's card disadvantage by itself. Also, it's not something that you'd even think of casting early in the game.
As for playing it on Isochron Scepter..what would be the point, exactly? To mill yourself in a hurry? You'd be better off using Peer Through Depths on Scepter than a card like this.
So, like I said, in Madness, or a combo deck, this card would most likely shine. But other than that, it's really not very impressive.
Edit: oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. TPS stands for "The Perfect Storm" aka Tendrils. Yup I was right. whew
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I beg to differ, but last time I know, I can put the cards that I'm suppose to discard on top of my library instead of discarding them thanks to then Leng's effect. Or I may be wrong I dont know *runs away*
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Actually your not quite right either. The Library was errated like spellbook as far as the discard phase is concerned, BUT the library still says:
" If an effect causes you to discard a card, discard it, but you may put it on top of your library instead of into your graveyard."
So you no you wont keep the cards in hand, but you still wouldnt lose them either. So, ~THIS CARD~ + Library of Leng = really long scry or Top ability.
I think that this could be real, from what we have seen already of saviors, they obviously arent trying to limit the power level in any way. I mean seriously, that green Legendary Creature/Enchantment flip??? OMFG!!!!
EDIT : Wow, Sarnath'd
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Because who wouldn't want to be both?!?
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I doubt if affinity can reliably cast a UU spell, though.
1. No name ?? Seems very odd !!
2. It's way too powerful compared to other stuff wizards is printing at the moment !
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It's not that powerful. It's not even really good in Type 2. In any T2 deck, this is inferior IMO to Thirst for Knowledge.
Well I cant say the same for other formats like T1/1.5/1.X :xd::rofl:
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