Name - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
(insert some drawback that in some decks can be worked around, depending on format)
If you build your deck to support this card, and play it properly, this card is Ancestral for UU. In T2, that's going to be really tough, and almost never happen. In older formats, it's much more likely to work out that way - and for that reason might be restricted if it gets crazy.
This Card in T2 - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
Discard your hand at end of turn.
This Card in T1.X - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
Discard 3 at end of turn.
This Card in T1.5 - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
Small drawback.
This Card in T1 - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
That's a dramatization of course, but my point is that it's only as broken as the format you play it in... possibly making it printable.
In every format you can build a deck to abuse this card, the no. of decks and how strong they are just increases with each format you go back. However only in the 2 older formats(T1/T1.5) can it be used as a more expensive version of ancestral recall, because only in those formats are there enough cheap powerful spells to go off with on the same turn you cast it.
Using it for it own merits is as good or better than an ancestral in certain decks, namely UG Madness where the discard element is as good as the draw element and the delayed discard just means that you can if you had an empty hand play any permanents which would otherwise be discarded(unlike careful study).
:lock::lock::lock::spam::artist::dance2::banana::cthulhu::jam::evil3:Can someone confirm this or deny it please? Otherwise I think its lock time until someone gets some more real info.
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NO-ONE is as glad to hear this confirmed as I am guys!!!
This is great stuff, even though I couldn't get a name or proper spell type of the original source, it's so good to find something out for the rumor mill ahead of time
It really doesn't seem like it was necessary for this to be a Sorcery, not at all. That's so disappointing, the card isn't nearly as interesting now. As far as functionality goes, it's not that changed, the same types of decks will most likely want to play it, if it's worth playing for them(I'm not familiar enough w. Vintage to know whether they'd play this as a Sorcery or not). I don't think it will replace Careful Study now, since it just does the same thing, but +1 card, + :symu:. Maybe Madness will just find a way to work in 2 copies of it.
Damn.!!!! its sorcery!!, well, its ok for 3 cards you then have to discard... well not that OK!
I guess the one that let you show the first 3 cards, your opponent chooses one, the you draw the other two its nice. Its better than this because if the Instant speed, and because it trades 2 cards for 2 cards, not like "Ideas Unbound" that trades 4 cards for olny 3. Also the "Murmurs from Beyond" its an Arcane, so it fits perfectly in my Cloudhoof Kirin/Milling/discard/control deck
That's bah-roken in type 1. It's the cheap man's Ancestral. Not like combo or aggro decks will have the 3 cards in their hand still by the end of the turn anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is restricted in type one. I can't see justification for a ban in 1.5 though.
aside from that, i guess it might see play in ext. or 1.5 for madness.
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Name - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
(insert some drawback that in some decks can be worked around, depending on format)
If you build your deck to support this card, and play it properly, this card is Ancestral for UU. In T2, that's going to be really tough, and almost never happen. In older formats, it's much more likely to work out that way - and for that reason might be restricted if it gets crazy.
This Card in T2 - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
Discard your hand at end of turn.
This Card in T1.X - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
Discard 3 at end of turn.
This Card in T1.5 - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
Small drawback.
This Card in T1 - UU
Instant
Draw 3.
That's a dramatization of course, but my point is that it's only as broken as the format you play it in... possibly making it printable.
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I`d think of it more like this:
This Card in T1.X - UU
Instant
Draw 3 then If you are playing a Madness deck, Do things that make Affinty decks look slow.
This Card in T1.5 - UU
Instant
Dont Draw 3 cuse this card is banned.
This Card in T1 - UU
Instant
Win the game, cuse odds are, you are gonna draw what you need.
Using it for it own merits is as good or better than an ancestral in certain decks, namely UG Madness where the discard element is as good as the draw element and the delayed discard just means that you can if you had an empty hand play any permanents which would otherwise be discarded(unlike careful study).
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Draw three cards. Discard three cards at end of turn.
It's a Sorcery, though. But it's Arcane.
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This is great stuff, even though I couldn't get a name or proper spell type of the original source, it's so good to find something out for the rumor mill ahead of time
This needs to be in the spoiler..
*hint* *hint*
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I guess the one that let you show the first 3 cards, your opponent chooses one, the you draw the other two its nice. Its better than this because if the Instant speed, and because it trades 2 cards for 2 cards, not like "Ideas Unbound" that trades 4 cards for olny 3. Also the "Murmurs from Beyond" its an Arcane, so it fits perfectly in my Cloudhoof Kirin/Milling/discard/control deck
Y mi cabeza caiga
Cuando mi sangre corra
Cuando a tu memoria llegue
Y domine en la penumbra
O el caos termine..."
—Sigma/Lambda
aside from that, i guess it might see play in ext. or 1.5 for madness.