I'm not sure how this happened, but I've just recieved an email from a source claiming to have a Saviors card he/she wishes to reveal to our 'Mill. The name of the card is not given, and i'm a bit dubious about this, but it's a rumor none the less...
so here it is:
Name unknown:no:
UU
Instant
Draw 3 Cards.
At the end of turn, discard 3 cards.
Rare.
And that's it. I wish I had another way of verifying this card, as it seems a little too good to be true at the moment.
please, someone help! Any thought's or comments would be apprecaited.
I do not give it much hope unless someone else can verify this.
Well... I'd call that rather powerfull, but not nessasarially unprintable. It's worse than many things like that... except, if you can play your hand down to less than 3 cards. Then it rocks. So... ehh, ok I guess. I wouldn't be surprised either way.
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Banana of the Month Feb '05 Cool stuff here.
Some kind of verification would be great..that card is ridiculous...esp. in like T1. It's technically card disadvantage, since you're using 4 cards to get 3 cards..but considering that you can use it whenever, it adds insane amounts of versatility to it. Esp. if you cast it in your opponent's end-step, since you then don't have to discard until YOUR end-step...that's really a pretty interesting card, if it's real.
sounds pretty good to me.. no cards in your hand, draw 3, play 3..
and then with all these cards in your hand stuff could be good for a one shot deal, or to discard swept lands you dont need anymore, etc etc.. very playable
Can we verify it's detail in the Orb. how many instances of UU etc are there... I'm not sure why I've been singled out for a spoiler for this one, but the source has stated that he/she '...wanted (me) to show the rumor mill'... I have asked for the full detail on this card, name, number artist and exact text, and I am awaiting a reply.
4 instances of UU...as far as I know, the only other one is the fork spell, so it's possible. Other words on there won't help. 3 appears 13 times and that's probably the lowest number for any of those.
I'm not sure why I've been singled out for a spoiler for this one...
Maybe because you're so enthusiastic all the time and obviously hungry for info... you never know!
Anyway, I believe this. And I think it's quite good and worth testing, I disagree with any "basic" spell (any spell doing something extremely basic and fundamental to the game, like drawing cards, destroying lands, gaining life, countering spells, etc) being rare. UNLESS there's a different legitimate reason... and no, "it'll sell more packs" isn't a legitimate reason.
It reminds me of a card I designed about a year ago:
Reconfigure - UU
Instant (U)
Draw four cards, then discard three cards.
Shows you how much of a disparity there is between my idea of "fair" and WotC's idea of "fair".
I'm not sure why I've been singled out for a spoiler for this one, but...
how about the fact that you have been a fairly outspoken member of the community that has been POSITIVE about the block and really look forward to the set?
if i had a tidbit to give out i'd make sure that it got into the hands of someone who cares about the set.
uh... on topic... i'd love to see this card get printed. i'm a blue played (like my sig doesn't say that, eh?) and it would work out quite nice for virtually every deck that has islands...
EDIT: nice to see that R_E noticed you're upbeat and positive about the set too, eh? of course... he apparenty types faster than i do...
This would definitely be an interesting card. It works both as "Ancestral Recall if you can empty your hand" and as a False Memories for hand size -- both sides of Savior's hand size theme.
Yeah, I've always liked hand refills, and this could very well be quite usefull late game for a control deck or something... and, if you're going for earlyer stuff, it works great for madness, threashold, ect. Nice overall... it has that WotC flavor to it. It could be fake... but... I'm a trusting guy. ^^
EDIT: Props dude!
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Banana of the Month Feb '05 Cool stuff here.
Just heard back from my source... no name for this card... but he/she has told me that they have a prerelease poster in hand now, and will likely contact other members with similar email's/pm's. I'm not sure if this guy/gal is a lurker or a member, all I know is if I had the full spoiler at my finger-tips, it'd be up here for all of us to enjoy in a heart beat!!!!!!!
Remember, two new takes on old favorites. Earlier we got LoA and now we have a take on Ansesral Recall. I believe it. Also it looks like my Madness deck can now better fight Affinity in the new extended!
P.S. Hey source, if you are reading this, can I get a what-up?
yeah, but it's an instant. blue doesn't get good instant-speed card drawing any more, just reach through mists...:( i call fake, especially because the delay bit is laughably abusable (i.e. "i'll parlay the three cards into something ridiculous, play them all, and then not have to discard," all for two mana). seems like it would be a sorcery.
awesome! i sure hope this is true. if so we could have a bunch more cards flowing in tonight and tomorrow.
i like the card for blue. but i mean block needed more card draw amywayz to go along with this set so i think its got a good chance to be real.
yeah, but it's an instant. blue doesn't get good instant-speed card drawing any more, just reach through mists...:( i call fake, especially because the delay bit is laughably abusable (i.e. "i'll parlay the three cards into something ridiculous, play them all, and then not have to discard," all for two mana). seems like it would be a sorcery.
but dumping your hand in this setting might not be as good a thing as it seems to us now. think about pro tour play... they NEVER (i know... i know... there are X # of examples of a pro tour player who emptied his hand to great effect) have an empty hand. the set seems to want you to hold cards for greater effectiveness of your "wisdom" spells.
hoping it is real... hoping it is real... hoping it is real...
i call fake this isn;t as good as Ancestral Recall because it costs more and you have to dicarard.... a more expansive card with a draw back seems hasbro has this idea hey lets reprint cards but make them worse
Yes, a slightly more expensive card than Ancestral, with a drawback. Is that really hard to believe? You sound like you'd be less skeptical if they just reprinted Ancestral itself. I doubt the decision not to reprint that has anything to do with Hasbro.
EDIT: Forgot to add that I'm skeptical too - but not for these reasons.
It's somewhat stronger than Careful Study, and the opponent's EOT trick is nice (as well as with Moonring Mirror). Also, it's the best grave-filler in a while (reanimator loves you). A giant growth for your maros (plus enabling other critters) is good, and getting rid of the excess land you were holding in your hand to enable wisdom's good too. I can see this getting used in a U/G with elder pine of jukai, especially if it's arcane.
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I'm not sure how this happened, but I've just recieved an email from a source claiming to have a Saviors card he/she wishes to reveal to our 'Mill. The name of the card is not given, and i'm a bit dubious about this, but it's a rumor none the less...
so here it is:
Name unknown:no:
UU
Instant
Draw 3 Cards.
At the end of turn, discard 3 cards.
Rare.
And that's it. I wish I had another way of verifying this card, as it seems a little too good to be true at the moment.
please, someone help! Any thought's or comments would be apprecaited.
I do not give it much hope unless someone else can verify this.
It does look quite powerful, though.
Possibly the last remaining member of the Banana Clan (+1)
Banana of the Month Feb '05
Cool stuff here.
and then with all these cards in your hand stuff could be good for a one shot deal, or to discard swept lands you dont need anymore, etc etc.. very playable
Edit: beaten to it
Maybe because you're so enthusiastic all the time and obviously hungry for info... you never know!
Anyway, I believe this. And I think it's quite good and worth testing, I disagree with any "basic" spell (any spell doing something extremely basic and fundamental to the game, like drawing cards, destroying lands, gaining life, countering spells, etc) being rare. UNLESS there's a different legitimate reason... and no, "it'll sell more packs" isn't a legitimate reason.
It reminds me of a card I designed about a year ago:
Reconfigure - UU
Instant (U)
Draw four cards, then discard three cards.
Shows you how much of a disparity there is between my idea of "fair" and WotC's idea of "fair".
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And, of course, if you can ditch your hand by the end of the turn, this is Ancestral Recall for 2.
how about the fact that you have been a fairly outspoken member of the community that has been POSITIVE about the block and really look forward to the set?
if i had a tidbit to give out i'd make sure that it got into the hands of someone who cares about the set.
uh... on topic... i'd love to see this card get printed. i'm a blue played (like my sig doesn't say that, eh?) and it would work out quite nice for virtually every deck that has islands...
EDIT: nice to see that R_E noticed you're upbeat and positive about the set too, eh? of course... he apparenty types faster than i do...
and i'm out...
-Cannibal-
It's possible... All the orb results check out. But all the words are generic enough. Probably why there isn't a card name...
I say real.
EDIT: Props dude!
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Cool stuff here.
... GOGO Saviors
P.S. Hey source, if you are reading this, can I get a what-up?
i like the card for blue. but i mean block needed more card draw amywayz to go along with this set so i think its got a good chance to be real.
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but dumping your hand in this setting might not be as good a thing as it seems to us now. think about pro tour play... they NEVER (i know... i know... there are X # of examples of a pro tour player who emptied his hand to great effect) have an empty hand. the set seems to want you to hold cards for greater effectiveness of your "wisdom" spells.
hoping it is real... hoping it is real... hoping it is real...
-Cannnibal-
EDIT: Forgot to add that I'm skeptical too - but not for these reasons.