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I'd like to see the picture and flavor text for it, but Goblin Cohort actually makes sense flavorwise. Cohort is like a follower (Lackey comes to mind, but we already have one of those). Akki is a tribe name. If this goblin is someone's cohort, he's probably not part of the Akki tribe. This can also go back to Onslaught, where there were goblins with Skirk in the name, and goblins with Goblin in the name.
This was posted Today, 2:12 AM
The thread about the FAQ up on wizards was posted Yesterday, 11:24 PM.
Presumably the FAQ had been up a while before that.
That is enough time for any potential faker to take cards from the FAQ and plant them here as 'new' cards, aswell as making up the rest (names without cards, eg sakura tribe springcaller).
Now these may indeed be real, if blue is faking he's had the sense not to take ALL the cards from the FAQ. He does have a few typos, but thats understandable. He doesn't have the cards himself, he's just seen them and written them down. Presumably someone ripped open a pack and was selfish, although who knows why, if that person did, they themselves haven't posted the cards here. Again, because they're probably selfish.
But as spiritual herder said, blue's not an obvious faker. Just because he may have 'recycled'(shown cards we already have, via the FAQ) some information doesn't mean he got it from the same source, after all, wizards previews show cards we already have (Ink Eyes, Theif of Hope). In the case of Theif of Hope, it doesn't mean MaRo lurked the rumour mill, saw Theif of Hope, and used it as his preview card.
So why should we make that assumption of blue?
EDIT: and Akki is not a tribe name, it is the race name for goblins in Kamigawa. Akki are the hard shelled, lava proof goblins. Goblin could be possible but I doubt it sincerely. Akki Cohort just makes a lot more sense... in Design it may have just been 'goblin cohort' but development would definetly have changed it to Akki, or renamed it altogether.
EDIT2: MojoJojo, you may be, but there is no way of anyone to prove it. You want the admins of both 'news and salvation to track and compare your IP? not that they would.
They seem very real and all the numbers eem to add up. The only thing I really reacted to was the goblin cohort. I tought all goblins were called Akki in kamiwaga.. Im not 100% sure, but I really think that the word goblin has never been used on another kamiwaga card. I think they always used akki.
Edit: Also, some of theese cards where shown in the faq wich was posted on the boards here 3 hours before theese cards arrived..
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They used Akki, nan, because Akki is the race of goblin. A non-akki goblin has no place in Kamigawa, short of being pulled there from Mirrodin or Dominaria by Yet Another AEther Vortex. A native born Kamigawan goblin has a hard shell and calls itself an Akki, not a goblin. IMHO, Creature - Goblin only exists (in Kamigawa) for Goblin Offering and interaction with previous blocks ala Onslaught. It would suck for them to make something completely obviously Goblin into a new, improved Creature - Akki with no interaction with previous blocks. Moonfolk and Foxes are different, the same with Vedalken - what creature types that came before them could possibly be thought of as the super-race of moonfolk (as Goblin is the super-race of akki)?
I suppose they *might* be fakes, but I don't really know why someone would bother unveiling a massive and coordinated fakery three days before the pre-release, when we're all going to find out anyway.
I mean really. If they were going to pull something like this, and were talented enough to make such a huge quantity of believable cards, wouldn't they have done it a bit before now, before their fakery was in imminent peril of being utterly exposed?
More than any rational argument, though, I tend to go with my gut on this one. My gut doesn't have a perfect track record (about 70-30 or so) but it's really the only thing I have to rely on. I have a sneaking suspicion that many of the other people who have strong opinions regarding the truth or falsehood of these cards are just as driven by a gut feeling as I am.
One way or another, we'll know this weekend. And if blue is a lying scumbag, we'll know that too.
But if he isn't, he deserves to go up on the wall of Rumor Mill Heroes.
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Anyway, you'll get the confirmation once you hear about Nourishing Shoal.
By the way, for additional comfort, some stupid card names I could not have dreamed of inventing: Three Tragedies and Blinding Powder...
You should hear about them soon...
You teaaaaaaaase!
The green shoal is really just gain X life? Say it ain't so.
well my vote is real as well. we got the FAQ from wotc tonight and a couple of these cards are confirmed by that. overall the set seems much better now that we have a big chunk of the cards. still too many silly "throw in" kami with soulshift or clunky abilities though.
Wow, if these are real i would not be surprised, but kind of dissapointed. Its kind of better when you get the spoiler in little chunks, bu this is ok, great info.
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What I meant was that they never used the word goblin in card named before. Sure, its a creature type, but not a card name. In the card names they ALWAYS use akki. I see no reason to change this, that would just be weird.. I dont want to call fake on this, but its seems kind of weird with both a goblin in name and a spirit with soulshift equaling the CC.
Also the flavour behind ki counters doesnt add up. You cant put ki counters on creatures. Ki is the spiritual force of humans so to say, its not a spirit thing. This wizards could do, but it would be breaking the flavour..
I say its 60/40 that its fake..
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i suppose the green shoal had to be something poopy since if it did something insane then you'd just slap it in tooth and nail decks. disappointed that it didn't "animate" x lands tho... that wouldve been nice. and rude awakening wouldnt cost 10 f'n tickets anymore. <--- guy whose fault it is rude awakening costs 10 mtgo tickets
What I meant was that they never used the word goblin in card named before. Sure, its a creature type, but not a card name. In the card names they ALWAYS use akki. I see no reason to change this, that would just be weird.. I dont want to call fake on this, but its seems kind of weird with both a goblin in name and a spirit with soulshift equaling the CC.
Also the flavour behind ki counters doesnt add up. You cant put ki counters on creatures. Ki is the spiritual force of humans so to say, its not a spirit thing. This wizards could do, but it would be breaking the flavour..
I say its 60/40 that its fake..
Goblin in name - as someone said, it could be Core Set plant. If the card is put in so it could be reprinted later, it's better to not give it location-specific name. Kamigawa is not on Dominaria, after all.
Spirit with soulshift = CC - he said that it was mistyped. Soulshift is CC-1, like all other spirits (save for Kodama of the Center Tree) have.
Ki counters: Ki is spiritual energy. Why shouldn't spirits be able to use it?
teardrop kami (the blue frostling), while not a force spike on legs, can be really good in a ninja deck. Hell, its good in any blue deck.
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I have to say that I would call fake on a few of the cards... they just seem to bland and the names and all... I mean Hulk? C'mon! (I will require more evidence for the ones I call fake... has R_E said any-thing yet? if all of them are real, congrats on a job well done.
edit: sorry pal... the vastness of the listed cards I will call fake... although some I wish were real as they would be damn sexyness and bombable fun...
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Im going to have to say that these are real. They dont seem fake. The cards are either bad enough to be real, or make sense. Also he had some cards that we knew about which does make it more likely that they are real.
I like a couple of the cards. The one that creates a 3/3 token is really good.
Also i like the flavor of the shuriken. The blue 1 drop is ok.
"Goblin Cohort" = Mogg Conscripts. Conscripts saw a lot of play in early Rath Block Constructed, but those decks ran an insanely low land count and a *lot* of creatures. If a similar deck becomes viable in t2 or Block, this would be a very good card. The only problem is that the Rath Cycle deck had Jackal Pup, Mogg Fanatic, Wasteland, and Cursed Scroll. Now we have Akki Avalanchers, Frostling, Crack the Earth, and, um, yeah.
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It is "Goblin Cohort" (but there are two "Akki something" in the set).
Finally the green shoal is "Nourishing Shoal". Guess what it does :biggrin3:
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The thread about the FAQ up on wizards was posted Yesterday, 11:24 PM.
Presumably the FAQ had been up a while before that.
That is enough time for any potential faker to take cards from the FAQ and plant them here as 'new' cards, aswell as making up the rest (names without cards, eg sakura tribe springcaller).
Now these may indeed be real, if blue is faking he's had the sense not to take ALL the cards from the FAQ. He does have a few typos, but thats understandable. He doesn't have the cards himself, he's just seen them and written them down. Presumably someone ripped open a pack and was selfish, although who knows why, if that person did, they themselves haven't posted the cards here. Again, because they're probably selfish.
But as spiritual herder said, blue's not an obvious faker. Just because he may have 'recycled'(shown cards we already have, via the FAQ) some information doesn't mean he got it from the same source, after all, wizards previews show cards we already have (Ink Eyes, Theif of Hope). In the case of Theif of Hope, it doesn't mean MaRo lurked the rumour mill, saw Theif of Hope, and used it as his preview card.
So why should we make that assumption of blue?
EDIT: and Akki is not a tribe name, it is the race name for goblins in Kamigawa. Akki are the hard shelled, lava proof goblins. Goblin could be possible but I doubt it sincerely. Akki Cohort just makes a lot more sense... in Design it may have just been 'goblin cohort' but development would definetly have changed it to Akki, or renamed it altogether.
EDIT2: MojoJojo, you may be, but there is no way of anyone to prove it. You want the admins of both 'news and salvation to track and compare your IP? not that they would.
Edit: Also, some of theese cards where shown in the faq wich was posted on the boards here 3 hours before theese cards arrived..
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I suppose they *might* be fakes, but I don't really know why someone would bother unveiling a massive and coordinated fakery three days before the pre-release, when we're all going to find out anyway.
I mean really. If they were going to pull something like this, and were talented enough to make such a huge quantity of believable cards, wouldn't they have done it a bit before now, before their fakery was in imminent peril of being utterly exposed?
More than any rational argument, though, I tend to go with my gut on this one. My gut doesn't have a perfect track record (about 70-30 or so) but it's really the only thing I have to rely on. I have a sneaking suspicion that many of the other people who have strong opinions regarding the truth or falsehood of these cards are just as driven by a gut feeling as I am.
One way or another, we'll know this weekend. And if blue is a lying scumbag, we'll know that too.
But if he isn't, he deserves to go up on the wall of Rumor Mill Heroes.
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Take me to the green valley, lay the sod o'er me,
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There is indeed no way to check my identity and I could well be somebody impersonating the 'News MojoJojo (although it escapes me why anybody would like to pretend being me :tongue2: but that's besides the point ;)).
Anyway, you'll get the confirmation once you hear about Nourishing Shoal.
By the way, for additional comfort, some stupid card names I could not have dreamed of inventing: Three Tragedies and Blinding Powder...
You should hear about them soon...
Later.
well, it could be goblin that protects other goblin?
just like patron of the goblin??....
well, for the green shoal... if that's what i think it is, then it sucks...
but atleast it would be instant... right??
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The green shoal is really just gain X life? Say it ain't so.
will definately be fun to draft this weekend!
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Also the flavour behind ki counters doesnt add up. You cant put ki counters on creatures. Ki is the spiritual force of humans so to say, its not a spirit thing. This wizards could do, but it would be breaking the flavour..
I say its 60/40 that its fake..
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Goblin in name - as someone said, it could be Core Set plant. If the card is put in so it could be reprinted later, it's better to not give it location-specific name. Kamigawa is not on Dominaria, after all.
Spirit with soulshift = CC - he said that it was mistyped. Soulshift is CC-1, like all other spirits (save for Kodama of the Center Tree) have.
Ki counters: Ki is spiritual energy. Why shouldn't spirits be able to use it?
For some reason I believe these are real, thanks!
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edit: sorry pal... the vastness of the listed cards I will call fake... although some I wish were real as they would be damn sexyness and bombable fun...
(Their needs to be more Foxes!!! c'mon BoK...)
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2/2
I like a couple of the cards. The one that creates a 3/3 token is really good.
Also i like the flavor of the shuriken. The blue 1 drop is ok.
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