Since we will be getting the first look (once call the pre-beat) tomorrow and due to leaks and the stories from BRO we have enough to start a thread imo
From the ending of BRO we have a strike team of ten planeswalkers going to new phyrexia; Jace, Nissa, Kaya, Elspeth, Vraska, Wanderer, Kaito, Tyvar, Nahiri and Lukka. They hope to stop the phyrexia world tree from connecting the planes allowing phyrexia to invade other planes with no need of the planar bridge using the Sylex. Teaming up with Koth and the Mirran Resistance and Urbrask factoring revolting against Elesh Norn who currently has Karn taken apart. Mean while Tezzeret is dying (and being slowly falling into compleation) due to the planar bridge and is playing all the side for his own gain though he now realizing phyrexia need to be contained.
Likely one or more of the planeswalkers will be compleated and/or killed in the mission, even more so as a life is needed to activate the Sylex and we do know at least Norn will be alive to see the world tree connect the planes for March of the Machine, meaning the outlook for our protagonists is grim.
Vorothos Dates;
Story Beings- Jan. 12th -17th
Building worlds panel- Jan. 12th
Full spoilers start- Jan, 17th
Planeswalker getting cards;
There will be 10 planeswalker in the set, 5 will be compleated, 5 will be "Safe"; (U/P) Jace -Compleated (B/P) Vraska- Compleated (G/P) Nissa- Compleated (W/P)(R/P)Nahiri- Compleated (R/P)(G/P)Lukka - Compleated W Wanderer- "Safe" R Koth - "Safe" UB Kaito -"Safe" WB Kaya - "Safe" GB- Tyvar- "Safe"
Planeswalkers appearing without a card;
Elspeth
Tibalt- Compleated
From the visual guide (and out now, go buy it) New Phyrexia is now divided up into 9 spheres reflecting the original phyrexia and something they started when we last saw the plane;
The Glorious Facade- a sphere added above the original Mirrodin surface, filled with monument of Phyrexia victory
The Mirrex- the original surface of Mirrodin, now a barren wasteland due its resources taken for the other layers
The Furnace Layer- Urbrasks sphere, filled with rivers of lava and titanic forges
The Hunter's Maze- Vorinclexs sphere, a wilderness made of the The Tangle
The Surgical Bays- Jin Gitaxias sphere, full of laboratories build on islands that rise from a sea of glistening oil and the harvested quicksilver sea
The Dross Pit- Sheoldreds sphere, full of acidic pools and toxic vents spew necrotic gases from the Mephidross
The Fair Basilica- Elesh Norn's sphere, made to reflect Norn and show her greatness.
The Mycosynth Gardens- part of the former core of Mirrodin where mycosynth grow unchecked there
The Seedcore- the former heart of Mirrodin and now the incubation chamber for the phyrexia world tree.
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-between the strike team I see Lukka, Nahiri, Vraska Nissa and Tyvar as the most likely to die or be compleated. Lukka as he's been set up as an antagonist and was a surprise to see doing the gatewatch+, Nahiri to have a final show down with Sorin, Vraska/Nissa/Tyvar due to BG having a lot of walkers in it, Vraska/Nissa for the conflict/drama it cause Jace/Chandra and Tyvar magic is all about transmuting nature around him into him and that feels he's gonna get corrupted.
-I think Jace and Elspeth are also on the chopping block but I think Jace is safe due to us still not seeing him return home and his past yet and Elspeth is being more set up as one to take down Norn. The MoM art seems to suggest Teferi will be the one which leave somedoubt for Elspeth safety as well as the fact her body is "new" from her rebirth and I fear she might have lost her immunity.
-I think the Gatewatch+ and Urabrask will turn the tide against Elesh Norn but fail to stop the realm breaker from connecting the planes and this will let Norn escape. I think likely Vorinclex, Jin and Sholdred will be killed by the heroes during the story and Urabrask by Elesh Norn.
-We will learn of all the walkers who been compleated though we might not get their cards or fully see them until March of the Machine.
-Koth will get a card and be the only non-compleated walker to get one. WRONG
-We will learn if compleated walkers can be saved, but we won't save any of them until MoM if able and I think Nissa will kill one or more of them before then.
-The walkers (compleated or not) will be used in someway to activate or use the world tree, with my guess is they will the bridge for the branches to pass through and this was the "seed" that was planted into Tibalt will grow into and what Norn is gonna use Karn's body for.
-Tezzeret may live on in a body of dark steel or compleated blight steel, but his old body at least will fall die/fall apart, eliminating the planar bridge (since we won't be needing it as a plot device anymore).
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Actually I think Jace is gonna be a compleated walker
on further inspecting in jaces “what if” art you will notice luxior is in his chest and thr Set symbol for MOM looks like he doomslayer that elspeth got from Heliod
my theory here is elsepth realizes Jace got compleat and the way she escapes is stabbing him with it then planes walking away
They're going to kill off Tyvar and Lukka for sure, these two are the easy ones. They have minimal backstory and people aren't really connected to them. I see Vraska being the "fan favorite sacrifice" of the five, and then there's two more ... I could see Kaito (does he still have anything to do after the end of Neon Dynasty?) and Nahiri (her story has been finished/stagnating for a long time now).
Man... at least this time they sort of pre-told of this instead of the compleations being revealed to us next month. It was elating to see Koth alive (yet).
All else, I just want my new baby Tyvar live through this... transmute some Darksteel and fight his way through this attempt at Phyrexia... Multiverse, pleathe...
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Nahiri will be compleated. Too many reasons to count. First, now that Zendikar is rebuilding, the Eldrazi are gone and her kerfuffle with Sorin is solved, she really doesn't have a reason to be around anymore from a writing perspective. Second, her philosophies during ZNR align with Phyrexia's goals. Third, her compleation could also fix how poorly her and Sorin's arc was handled by giving Sorin a chance to get involved and redeem himself. Fourth, her lithomancy is really redundant with Koth around. And fifth, her siding with Nissa and Jace makes little sense unless she's trying to take them down from the inside.
Kaya will be compleated. The fact that the powerstone powering the Temporal Anchor "just happened" to overload taking one of the strongest members of the Gatewatch out of the picture was pretty convenient wasn't it? Kaya had the means to do it and to get away with it, and both ghostforming and spirit slaying would be very useful assets for Phyrexia which historically had interests in infiltration and problems with non-corporeal threats. Hell, maybe Planar Incision was foreshadowing this all along.
Nissa will NOT be compleated. Yeah I don't like this either, but I think Gaea's pep talk and her renewing her Oath pretty much ensures Nissa's role in this story will be to be a radical agent on the Gatewatch's side, arguing against saving the compleated 'walkers contrasting against the more optimistic characters like Chandra or the ones that lost someone dear to the other side (more of that in a bit...).
I find it somewhat likely that...
Kaito will be compleated. With Tamiyo and Ajani's compleations, it's clear that "drama" is a big factor for potential compleation. Pitting Wanderer vs Kaito would be a very dramatic moment that would really drive the story forward in interesting and new ways, and since compleating The Wanderer would be very difficult both from a story (How would Phyrexia even track her? Could they even do it considering her bond with Kyodai?) and a metanarrative (What's next for Kamigawa if their emperor is compleated?) perspective, I think Kaito is the most likely target. Kaito is also a bit aimless at the moment, and just like Nahiri his own goals would align with Phyrexia's goals easily. The only reason he's in "somewhat" is, well... he's very new to the story. I feel like compleating him would curb a lot of potential out of him as a character.
Lukka will NOT be compleated. Nahiri standing as the W/R PW of choice for Phyrexia, Lukka feels more like an intentional red herring to me than anything else. He still has unresolved plot threads, but he's not the most popular in the fanbase's eyes... but on the other hand his actions are also often misunderstood, so him not being compleated and showcasing his more "humane" side and fighting to take down the Orthodoxy would be far more interesting than the other option and in-character with what we saw on Strixhaven and maybe Ikoria... and that "maybe" is the only reason why I put him in "somewhat likely": the fact that Broken Bond exists. With how drastic the differences in characterization between Card Lukka and Book Lukka is, it's hard to pin down "which" Lukka Wizards decides is "this story's Lukka". IMO Card Lukka wouldn't be compleated, but Book Lukka would.
Oh god please no...
Vraska will be compleated. Please don't do this WotC, my heart couldn't take it... but sadly everything I said about Kaito above applies. Pitting Jace vs Vraska once more would be their arc's greatest climatic ending. It would be a dramatic echo to their struggles in Ravnica. It would be a touching end to their relationship. And most of all, it would make the mind mage, a man that spent his life forgetting his past and holding back to go all out for the first time since Alhammarret... and to never want to forget ever again. And I would hate it. I hope Ryperior is right, maybe they'll flip the script and Jace gets compleated instead, but one simply doesn't kills off Mickey Mouse for good.
That would give the phyrexians one (W/P)/(R/P), one (W/P)/(B/P), one (U/P)/(B/P) and one (G/P)/(B/P) 'walker, a pretty even distribution that nicely rounds up the already existing (U/P)/(G/P), (G/P)/(W/P) and maybe(R/P)/(B/P) (if Vorinclex's "seed" really compleated Tibalt back in Kaldheim).
I doubt Kaito, Lukka and Tyvar will be compleated. They look too unrecognizable, which is what brand wants to prevent I assume. Remember planeswalkers are brands and need to be marketed, compleated or not. That's why Ajani and Tamiyo still look largely recognizable. The three planeswalkers I named look like the artist was given free reign to do whatever they want, which makes sense if it doesn't concern brand, because it doesn't come to be true.
Jace is an interesting case, because of the whole Luxior deal. It would be an extremely odd detail to add if you were told to "just draw a compleat Jace", so I'm strongly leaning towards Jace being compleated.
As for the designs themselves, I really like Vraska's and Kaito's forms. I was kinda miffed when Tamiyo and Ajani still look largely like their original selves, when regular phyrexians foten completely reshape their body to the point where it is often difficult to tell what they were based on originally.
Purely based on the artworks, my hunch is that Nahiri, Vraska, Jace, Kaya and Nissa will be compleated. They look the most like there was an actual design process behind them, instead of just an artist doing a thing. Interestingly that leaves dramatic pairings like Vraska<>Jace and Kaito<>Wanderer on the same sides, so mmh.
I doubt Kaito, Lukka and Tyvar will be compleated. They look too unrecognizable, which is what brand wants to prevent I assume. Remember planeswalkers are brands and need to be marketed, compleated or not. That's why Ajani and Tamiyo still look largely recognizable. The three planeswalkers I named look like the artist was given free reign to do whatever they want, which makes sense if it doesn't concern brand, because it doesn't come to be true.
Jace is an interesting case, because of the whole Luxior deal. It would be an extremely odd detail to add if you were told to "just draw a compleat Jace", so I'm strongly leaning towards Jace being compleated.
As for the designs themselves, I really like Vraska's and Kaito's forms. I was kinda miffed when Tamiyo and Ajani still look largely like their original selves, when regular phyrexians foten completely reshape their body to the point where it is often difficult to tell what they were based on originally.
Purely based on the artworks, my hunch is that Nahiri, Vraska, Jace, Kaya and Nissa will be compleated. They look the most like there was an actual design process behind them, instead of just an artist doing a thing. Interestingly that leaves dramatic pairings like Vraska<>Jace and Kaito<>Wanderer on the same sides, so mmh.
hmmm that’s pretty good
There is a factor we’re thinking alike it’s the ones that have the more detail done and I didn,t take into factor they should be recognizable as well
I can definitely double down on Jace/vraska/nissa
It also acured to me we could get a tamiyo's compleation cycle for are 5 walkers that get caught by the phyrexians
thus meaning it will infact be a balance of all 5 colors
There's also no mono-white compleated planeswalker, if true. This would imply Kaya is white-black and Nahiri red-white, which checks out.
IF the number ordering thing is indicative of anything and IF planeswalkers follow their regular colour alignment (though Vraska already breaks it) then Lukka and The Wanderer would be rendered incompleat, because they both have very high chances of being mono-coloured and thus would appear before Nissa and Jace respectively.
This leaves, in theory, Kaito, Kaya, Nahiri for being multi-coloured and Tyvar for being alphabetically behind Nissa.
The assumption goes that they want to not make it completely colour imbalanced, so I'm ruling out Kaito and Tyvar, which the original artwork theory postulates wouldn't be compleated anyway.
Which leaves Kaya and Nahiri for white-black and red-white respectively, which checks out with the artwork theory.
It's not the most rock-hard theory, but new information has not brought up evidence to the contrary, so it's solidifying...
I do wonder how much of a villain Solbad is gonna be since he is a red phyrexian and likely part of Urabrasks faction/revolt.
-tosses out drafts of who I thought might get the oil and being conflicted over certain characters-
Wait how did white get crunched out? The card would likely be 359 right so Wanderer, Kaya or Nahiri would still fit (if mono-white).
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Oh, you're right. I'm stupid, haha. Do we know how many cards are in the set, so we know how many spots are in front of Jace?
Hard to tell since the normal set is 271 and all these are in the promo/alternate art/frame slots.
EDIT: double checked, oil slick plains is 365. Nissa is 362, so there are two card between Nissa and the plains (363 and 364) meaning tyvar and/or one/two of the others being in multicolored seems the most possible. Wanderer and Lukka are maybe safe unless they add another color to them.
“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Oh, you're right. I'm stupid, haha. Do we know how many cards are in the set, so we know how many spots are in front of Jace?
Hard to tell since the normal set is 271 and all these are in the promo/alternate art/frame slots.
EDIT: double checked, oil slick plains is 365. Nissa is 362, so there are two card between Nissa and the plains (363 and 364) meaning tyvar and/or one/two of the others being in multicolored seems the most possible. Wanderer and Lukka are maybe safe unless they add another color to them.
We also probably want to take another thing into factor
Like Flisch said they likely still want the walkers to be recognizable for advertisement tyvar, kaito, and lukka do not look recognizable in their “what if” arts (I would say too new to kill off but dovin was killed off pretty quick.)
There might be a excuse for the wanderer to be one of the compleated walkers.
they teased that planeswalker compleation might be curable in BRO side story.
kaito is so desperate to repair the wanderers psycho spark so she can be emperor again and also finally return his best friend.
but there is A excuse to compleat her…… what if the phyrexians repair that psycho spark after compleating her. Then if the compleation can be reverse from the tease it will fix the spark and the wanderer can apear more often.
And ofcoarse the wanderer still looks noticeable in her “what if” art.
so my new final answer might be nahiri and the wanderer
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While I think Nahiri is a fairly safe bet, I'm not too sure about Kaya being the fifth compleat planeswalker. It could also be the Wanderer. But the thing is, the Wanderer has these weird lightning bolts in the art? Which doesn't seem like a phyrexian thing, really, especially for the porcellain legion, which her headpiece indicates. It would be an odd direction to take her character. Kaya on the other hand always used daggers, so she's been a "close-combat" specialist, which her art preserves through her claws. All in all, it would fit more to her "brand" than what happened to The Wanderer. That's why I think Kaya is more likely, but as I said, it's the planeswalker I'm least sure about.
Honestly I looked at all the combinations to balance the colors for compleated and safe
most of the time I come up with this one combination for the most balance in colors
safe
The wanderer W
Kaito UB (feels more U centered)
Kaya WB
Koth R
Tyvar GB (more G centered)
compleated
Nahiri RW (very first card printed mono W)
Jace U
Vraska GB (mostly B)
Lukka R
Nissa UGB (ofcoarse G 90% of the cards.)
to explain lukka
1. I heard he's not popular
2. Could be rare and I don’t think it’s full proof that all the compleated walkers are mythic I feel atleast one safe walker will be a mythic
3. Now for the unrecognizable thing I should have mentioned this I do see where his face is and there is a old lore character we could compare his “what if” body to and that’s tsabo Tavoc and that’s a phyrexian.
Separate notes 1: I do like all the phyrexia promos flavor text being in second person.
2;
A bit of info from the visual guide;
From the Tamiyo section a blurb goes over her post-compleated and it states she was given the mission to find other planeswalkers for compleation with the first one being Ajani.
From Ajani section with his blurb that goes over being compleated, it notes he was captured in an ambushed by Tamiyo and other phyrexians.
While I think Nahiri is a fairly safe bet, I'm not too sure about Kaya being the fifth compleat planeswalker. It could also be the Wanderer. But the thing is, the Wanderer has these weird lightning bolts in the art? Which doesn't seem like a phyrexian thing, really, especially for the porcellain legion, which her headpiece indicates. It would be an odd direction to take her character. Kaya on the other hand always used daggers, so she's been a "close-combat" specialist, which her art preserves through her claws. All in all, it would fit more to her "brand" than what happened to The Wanderer. That's why I think Kaya is more likely, but as I said, it's the planeswalker I'm least sure about.
I think the lighting is her ability/ her swords ability to redirect kinetic energy.
Wanderer is someone I'm conflicted about. I don't think they will get rid of all the kamigawa planeswalkers, but there is the fact that the reality chip helped stabilize her spark and it in someway helped Jin with compleating planeswalkers so I could see her getting compleated to book end that storyline. But from the crunch unless they add in another color it does seem like she will be safe.
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Separate notes 1: I do like all the phyrexia promos flavor text being in second person.
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A bit of info from the visual guide;
From the Tamiyo section a blurb goes over her post-compleated and it states she was given the mission to find other planeswalkers for compleation with the first one being Ajani.
From Ajani section with his blurb that goes over being compleated, it notes he was captured in an ambushed by Tamiyo and other phyrexians.
While I think Nahiri is a fairly safe bet, I'm not too sure about Kaya being the fifth compleat planeswalker. It could also be the Wanderer. But the thing is, the Wanderer has these weird lightning bolts in the art? Which doesn't seem like a phyrexian thing, really, especially for the porcellain legion, which her headpiece indicates. It would be an odd direction to take her character. Kaya on the other hand always used daggers, so she's been a "close-combat" specialist, which her art preserves through her claws. All in all, it would fit more to her "brand" than what happened to The Wanderer. That's why I think Kaya is more likely, but as I said, it's the planeswalker I'm least sure about.
I think the lighting is her ability/ her swords ability to redirect kinetic energy.
Wanderer is someone I'm conflicted about. I don't think they will get rid of all the kamigawa planeswalkers, but there is the fact that the reality chip helped stabilize her spark and it in someway helped Jin with compleating planeswalkers so I could see her getting compleated to book end that storyline. But from the crunch unless they add in another color it does seem like she will be safe.
so it was tamiyo who compleated ajani strange since ajani was a sleeper agent and sheoldred knows (she knows about Gix is how she knows how.) how to do that and tamiyo is a beginner at compleation.
It worded more like Tamiyo was picking out and helping capture planeswalkers, not necessary being the one who compleated them.
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From the ending of BRO we have a strike team of ten planeswalkers going to new phyrexia; Jace, Nissa, Kaya, Elspeth, Vraska, Wanderer, Kaito, Tyvar, Nahiri and Lukka. They hope to stop the phyrexia world tree from connecting the planes allowing phyrexia to invade other planes with no need of the planar bridge using the Sylex. Teaming up with Koth and the Mirran Resistance and Urbrask factoring revolting against Elesh Norn who currently has Karn taken apart. Mean while Tezzeret is dying (and being slowly falling into compleation) due to the planar bridge and is playing all the side for his own gain though he now realizing phyrexia need to be contained.
Likely one or more of the planeswalkers will be compleated and/or killed in the mission, even more so as a life is needed to activate the Sylex and we do know at least Norn will be alive to see the world tree connect the planes for March of the Machine, meaning the outlook for our protagonists is grim.
Vorothos Dates;
Story Beings- Jan. 12th -17th
Building worlds panel- Jan. 12th
Full spoilers start- Jan, 17th
Planeswalker getting cards;
There will be 10 planeswalker in the set, 5 will be compleated, 5 will be "Safe";
(U/P) Jace -Compleated
(B/P) Vraska- Compleated
(G/P) Nissa- Compleated
(W/P)(R/P)Nahiri- Compleated
(R/P)(G/P)Lukka - Compleated
W Wanderer- "Safe"
R Koth - "Safe"
UB Kaito -"Safe"
WB Kaya - "Safe"
GB- Tyvar- "Safe"
Planeswalkers appearing without a card;
Elspeth
Tibalt- Compleated
From the visual guide (and out now, go buy it) New Phyrexia is now divided up into 9 spheres reflecting the original phyrexia and something they started when we last saw the plane;
The Mirrex- the original surface of Mirrodin, now a barren wasteland due its resources taken for the other layers
The Furnace Layer- Urbrasks sphere, filled with rivers of lava and titanic forges
The Hunter's Maze- Vorinclexs sphere, a wilderness made of the The Tangle
The Surgical Bays- Jin Gitaxias sphere, full of laboratories build on islands that rise from a sea of glistening oil and the harvested quicksilver sea
The Dross Pit- Sheoldreds sphere, full of acidic pools and toxic vents spew necrotic gases from the Mephidross
The Fair Basilica- Elesh Norn's sphere, made to reflect Norn and show her greatness.
The Mycosynth Gardens- part of the former core of Mirrodin where mycosynth grow unchecked there
The Seedcore- the former heart of Mirrodin and now the incubation chamber for the phyrexia world tree.
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-I think Jace and Elspeth are also on the chopping block but I think Jace is safe due to us still not seeing him return home and his past yet and Elspeth is being more set up as one to take down Norn. The MoM art seems to suggest Teferi will be the one which leave somedoubt for Elspeth safety as well as the fact her body is "new" from her rebirth and I fear she might have lost her immunity.
-I think the Gatewatch+ and Urabrask will turn the tide against Elesh Norn but fail to stop the realm breaker from connecting the planes and this will let Norn escape. I think likely Vorinclex, Jin and Sholdred will be killed by the heroes during the story and Urabrask by Elesh Norn.
-We will learn of all the walkers who been compleated though we might not get their cards or fully see them until March of the Machine.
-Koth will get a card and be the only non-compleated walker to get one. WRONG
-We will learn if compleated walkers can be saved, but we won't save any of them until MoM if able and I think Nissa will kill one or more of them before then.
-The walkers (compleated or not) will be used in someway to activate or use the world tree, with my guess is they will the bridge for the branches to pass through and this was the "seed" that was planted into Tibalt will grow into and what Norn is gonna use Karn's body for.
-Tezzeret may live on in a body of dark steel or compleated blight steel, but his old body at least will fall die/fall apart, eliminating the planar bridge (since we won't be needing it as a plot device anymore).
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my theory here is elsepth realizes Jace got compleat and the way she escapes is stabbing him with it then planes walking away
All else, I just want my new baby Tyvar live through this... transmute some Darksteel and fight his way through this attempt at Phyrexia... Multiverse, pleathe...
Sucks to be Venser.
I find it somewhat likely that...
Oh god please no...
That would give the phyrexians one (W/P)/(R/P), one (W/P)/(B/P), one (U/P)/(B/P) and one (G/P)/(B/P) 'walker, a pretty even distribution that nicely rounds up the already existing (U/P)/(G/P), (G/P)/(W/P) and maybe (R/P)/(B/P) (if Vorinclex's "seed" really compleated Tibalt back in Kaldheim).
There’s 3 factor that probably come into consideration that’s likely to hint toward the walkers
1. Connection that involves friendship/love
walker's that have best friends or in love it should be one or the other and those go as following this should cause huge drama in the story
Jace/Vraska
Kaito/the wanderer (the emperor)
Chandra (not here)/Nissa
Tyvar/Kaya
2. Color combination
It’s likely we’re gonna get phyrexian planeswalkers based color combos so far we have tamiyo with simic and ajani with selesyna
so With color combos that don't have one are follows
dimir - Kaito
Orzhov - Kaya
Golgari - Vraska/Nissa/tyvar
Boros - nahiri
hypithetical
Azorius - Jace (mono blue)
Boros - lukka
3. The arts that look like that has the most work done
The more complex looking art look like there’s too much work done to not happen here’s the ones that look likely from that
1. Jace - the Luxior is in his chest and the MOM set symbol looks like the godsend so she might be going back to that and May lose the luxior
2. Lukka - the body looks really complex looking like tsaboo's was (infact it’s hard to tell what’s happening)
3. Vraska - her body is easy…however the complex factor is they threw in 2 phyrexians By her like cats
4. Kaito - they made him a spider basically and that looks
5. Nissa - There’s a truckload of complex details for her including her outfit and the spine like things in thr art
6. Nahiri - while her body is simple,.. but not the whoosh line from swinging the swords
7. Kaya - pretty simple but on further inspecting several lines focusing onto her claw also has several braid lines
8. Tyvar - most of it easy but has a eldrazi feet like bottom and has spikes/light coming out of his eyes
So with all the factors in my hypothesis goes as follows as follows
the Following is likely the hits for compleation
kaito
Vraska or/and Jace
Nissa
Nahiri or lukka
Kaya or tyvar
Jace is an interesting case, because of the whole Luxior deal. It would be an extremely odd detail to add if you were told to "just draw a compleat Jace", so I'm strongly leaning towards Jace being compleated.
As for the designs themselves, I really like Vraska's and Kaito's forms. I was kinda miffed when Tamiyo and Ajani still look largely like their original selves, when regular phyrexians foten completely reshape their body to the point where it is often difficult to tell what they were based on originally.
Purely based on the artworks, my hunch is that Nahiri, Vraska, Jace, Kaya and Nissa will be compleated. They look the most like there was an actual design process behind them, instead of just an artist doing a thing. Interestingly that leaves dramatic pairings like Vraska<>Jace and Kaito<>Wanderer on the same sides, so mmh.
hmmm that’s pretty good
There is a factor we’re thinking alike it’s the ones that have the more detail done and I didn,t take into factor they should be recognizable as well
I can definitely double down on Jace/vraska/nissa
It also acured to me we could get a tamiyo's compleation cycle for are 5 walkers that get caught by the phyrexians
thus meaning it will infact be a balance of all 5 colors
Kaya/wanderer=W Jace=U, Vraska=B, nahiri=R, nissa=G,
Now, who do we think would be the last two?
I will say this
If you look at the numbers
using The crunch there’s no mono red walker is (they are literally 360, 361, 362)
so if lukka is compleated he would be boros (he has a touch of white from bonding with the winged cat and then mila on arcavios/strixhaven.)
Since nissa is one of the compleated victims it would be pretty epic if Ezuri was the one who compleated her. Very flavorful since he’s a elf.
IF the number ordering thing is indicative of anything and IF planeswalkers follow their regular colour alignment (though Vraska already breaks it) then Lukka and The Wanderer would be rendered incompleat, because they both have very high chances of being mono-coloured and thus would appear before Nissa and Jace respectively.
This leaves, in theory, Kaito, Kaya, Nahiri for being multi-coloured and Tyvar for being alphabetically behind Nissa.
The assumption goes that they want to not make it completely colour imbalanced, so I'm ruling out Kaito and Tyvar, which the original artwork theory postulates wouldn't be compleated anyway.
Which leaves Kaya and Nahiri for white-black and red-white respectively, which checks out with the artwork theory.
It's not the most rock-hard theory, but new information has not brought up evidence to the contrary, so it's solidifying...
Wait how did white get crunched out? The card would likely be 359 right so Wanderer, Kaya or Nahiri would still fit (if mono-white).
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EDIT: double checked, oil slick plains is 365. Nissa is 362, so there are two card between Nissa and the plains (363 and 364) meaning tyvar and/or one/two of the others being in multicolored seems the most possible. Wanderer and Lukka are maybe safe unless they add another color to them.
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We also probably want to take another thing into factor
Like Flisch said they likely still want the walkers to be recognizable for advertisement tyvar, kaito, and lukka do not look recognizable in their “what if” arts (I would say too new to kill off but dovin was killed off pretty quick.)
There might be a excuse for the wanderer to be one of the compleated walkers.
they teased that planeswalker compleation might be curable in BRO side story.
kaito is so desperate to repair the wanderers psycho spark so she can be emperor again and also finally return his best friend.
but there is A excuse to compleat her…… what if the phyrexians repair that psycho spark after compleating her. Then if the compleation can be reverse from the tease it will fix the spark and the wanderer can apear more often.
And ofcoarse the wanderer still looks noticeable in her “what if” art.
so my new final answer might be nahiri and the wanderer
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most of the time I come up with this one combination for the most balance in colors
safe
The wanderer W
Kaito UB (feels more U centered)
Kaya WB
Koth R
Tyvar GB (more G centered)
compleated
Nahiri RW (very first card printed mono W)
Jace U
Vraska GB (mostly B)
Lukka R
Nissa UGB (ofcoarse G 90% of the cards.)
to explain lukka
1. I heard he's not popular
2. Could be rare and I don’t think it’s full proof that all the compleated walkers are mythic I feel atleast one safe walker will be a mythic
3. Now for the unrecognizable thing I should have mentioned this I do see where his face is and there is a old lore character we could compare his “what if” body to and that’s tsabo Tavoc and that’s a phyrexian.
2;
A bit of info from the visual guide;
From the Tamiyo section a blurb goes over her post-compleated and it states she was given the mission to find other planeswalkers for compleation with the first one being Ajani.
From Ajani section with his blurb that goes over being compleated, it notes he was captured in an ambushed by Tamiyo and other phyrexians.
Wanderer is someone I'm conflicted about. I don't think they will get rid of all the kamigawa planeswalkers, but there is the fact that the reality chip helped stabilize her spark and it in someway helped Jin with compleating planeswalkers so I could see her getting compleated to book end that storyline. But from the crunch unless they add in another color it does seem like she will be safe.
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so it was tamiyo who compleated ajani strange since ajani was a sleeper agent and sheoldred knows (she knows about Gix is how she knows how.) how to do that and tamiyo is a beginner at compleation.
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Found this theory on Reddit I call it the ”W” theory
Plus it hits all the walkers with the wrong pictures (latest appearance)
hes Are Christmas Eve preview and he’s not compleated so his “what if” was not canon.