In particular, Wizards says that Liesa has reformed from mana and her own essence "Perhaps due to her demonic dealings, or perhaps because of the shared nature of angels and demons". The reforming process took centuries, though. Wizards leaving it completely ambiguous and open about whether Bruna and Gisela can return in a similar fashion yet again.
Ludevic's bio also leaves it ambiguous whether his "final creation" involves stitching himself into it and Ludevic becoming a skaab that way...but Olag's earlier bio does not - Ludevic does not become Olag. Shame; the Showcase art version of their shared card was really leaning into the direction of Ludevic becoming Olag.
I love this part of Rem Karolus's bio, though: "Rem does not wish for a glorious end in battle. Let's be clear: Rem very much enjoys living. After all, the longer he lives, the more fights he gets to have. He's just looking for a little challenge." I think a lot of blood knights in fiction think like Rem.
yes but the real interesting part is this...
But Ormendahl succumbed to the Eldrazi's corruption, and Jerren was killed along with the rest of the Council during the Battle of Thraben.
jerren is dead and it was during eldritch moon he died. and ormendahl fell for Emrakul's influence and lost is own (he got Eldrazified)
so maro i need a big big big exclamation why we got 2 past cards? becausee this is ormendahl before he got corrupted obviously
I'm a bit disappointed cards like Ludevic and Oglaf do not represent, well, a transformation. Kind of a terrible way to do transform cards if you ask me. Not to mention very confusing as well.
I'm really disappointed because using your dying body as an ingredient for your final creation would be such a great path to go down for the resident "Sewing Necro-Alchemist".
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I really enjoyed this. Much better than last week's, for sure. It's fascinating to see new glimpses into Arlinn's past - maybe we'll get a brief flashback next week of her former challenge to Tovolar? In any case, their fight has more weight to it than usual because, unlike in most Magic stories of late, the main hero and villain have such an intimate history together. Whatever the stakes for the world of Innistrad, this conflict is deeply personal. When they clash, it feels like this is truly a fateful moment, as if both their lives have been leading up to this. The consequences for Innistrad are secondary, even, next to how personal this fight is to Arlinn. She has become my favorite heroine of the post-War of the Spark story, and Tovolar my favorite villain.
Unfortunately, the side characters are less interesting. Even Teferi, a legacy character and one of my personal favorites in all MTG canon, is irrelevant here. My main gripe with this chapter is that his slowing of the sunset didn't really change or affect the story at all, and thus it didn't even need to be here. It didn't even do anything, really, except save the lives of some human redshirts that we the readers care nothing for. It felt like the author only included that bit because she was handed a list of plot points from WotC that included "Teferi slows the sun." Teferi, Chandra, Kaya, Adeline - all extraneous.
But Arlinn and Tovolar (and Arlinn's wolves!) shine as good characters, and that is enough to carry the story for me.
I can honestly say I can't wait to see the conclusion next week.
So seems Olivia was planing to get married before knowing about the stuff with the humans and her ambush will be the true end of the story (some people where guessing Olivia irrupting the festival was what let the werwolves in to attack).
I really like how the author wrote the conflict with Arlinn and her needing to balance both humans and werewolves sides and hopefully she survives her dual and we see more of her next set.
EDIT: I also like how they mixed in the Arlinn card having day/night bound and not having full control of her transformation.
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“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Any wagers for non DFC Werewolves or start on the Nightbond side.
Pretty much from the very last line
It will be night from here to eternity
and as for crimson vow story you people can make it evil wins ending all you want whenever there’s 2 parts of something you know damn well the heroes will trump in part 2 (that’s why I got 0% sadness from the thanos snap scene)
for this case the wedding will be ruined Olivia might get killed day times comes back.
Yeah the Arlinn story was really solid (by the standards of an MTG story) but the Ritual wasn't because Crimson Vow was coming and we knew Olivia was going to interfere and it wasn't written in a particularly compelling or character driven way.
I'm not sure if Olivia is lying about needing the Moonsilver Key or it actually will genuinely help her in the wedding. I'm very prone to thinking she's lying, but then I'm reminded that Sorin secured the Moonsilver Key for decades for some reason. Sorin keeping the Moonsilver Key in Markov property, so it stayed safe even after House Markov got attacked, smacks even more of Snape being appointed headmaster of Hogwarts now - both now feel like last-ditch attempts to keep some core property or principle safe, even as darkness and terror conquers everything around it, by posting someone with connections to the bad guys to guard it. I'm not sure how much of Sorin keeping the Moonsilver Key was him trying to get back in some vampires' favour and how much was him preventing the other, greedy vampires from grabbing it.
It's quite possible that we'll learn more of the backstory of the Moonsilver Key in Crimson Vow. Maybe it was involved in the creation of Avacyn after all....
Unless we see it in the side story Friday we didn't get shown what story beat Fateful Absence is suppose to show.
Something of note is Katilda seemed to have given up her soul into the key which might hint 1) she's not dead and/or 2) the ritual can still be finished.
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Unless we see it in the side story Friday we didn't get shown what story beat Fateful Absence is suppose to show.
Something of note is Katilda seemed to have given up her soul into the key which might hint 1) she's not dead and/or 2) the ritual can still be finished.
Yeah, that one is obvious. I guess that it was trapped in the Key and the ritual will finish.
As for Olivia, it was already apparent in the previous story, but they went in kind of different direction than when she was featured in the Shadows story. There she was more serious, IIRC. Here, for some reason, I really heard her lines in my head in the voice of Miranda Richardson as the Queenie in Blackadder II. "BORING"!!!
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I dunno why but these Innistrad stories seem kinda Campy so far.
I think it’s due to the passing and lack of depth to some of the wider storytelling elements.
Everyone has heard of or knows one another already. Character knowledge or motivations are sometimes left unexplained or vague.
it’s like the unfinished sketch of visuals/scenes meant for a movie (or Netflix show…) to flesh out more fully with derper dialogue, combat and world building.
The internal Arlin conflict wasn’t bad, though the resolution seemed a bit simplistic as every werewolf obeyed regardless of their upper hand.
I haveca fart time believing that all Teferi really ended up doing was literally slowing down the sunset. I think he could’ve been more than a match for a few werewolves.
He’s an archmage and with an oldwslkers’s arsenal of tricks n skills. Still powerful despite the mending. He could’ve been a real match for Sorin as well.
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“The wind whispers, ‘come home,’ but I cannot.”
— Teferi
I dunno why but these Innistrad stories seem kinda Campy so far.
I think it’s due to the passing and lack of depth to some of the wider storytelling elements.
Everyone has heard of or knows one another already. Character knowledge or motivations are sometimes left unexplained or vague.
it’s like the unfinished sketch of visuals/scenes meant for a movie (or Netflix show…) to flesh out more fully with derper dialogue, combat and world building.
Yeah, exactly espressed. But this is the same persisting problem since the stories "restarted" with Zendikar Rising, and the main story is always crammed up into about six episodes.
Kaldheim: Big battles happening offscreen or just seen in passing.
Strixhaven: Big time jumps.
But this is all the same - pacing and shallowness problems, just in different forms.
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“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
I dunno why but these Innistrad stories seem kinda Campy so far.
I think it’s due to the passing and lack of depth to some of the wider storytelling elements.
Everyone has heard of or knows one another already. Character knowledge or motivations are sometimes left unexplained or vague.
it’s like the unfinished sketch of visuals/scenes meant for a movie (or Netflix show…) to flesh out more fully with derper dialogue, combat and world building.
Yeah, exactly espressed. But this is the same persisting problem since the stories "restarted" with Zendikar Rising, and the main story is always crammed up into about six episodes.
Kaldheim: Big battles happening offscreen or just seen in passing.
Strixhaven: Big time jumps.
But this is all the same - pacing and shallowness problems, just in different forms.
The main stories all have been 5 parts and agreed the pacing is an issues, they need another chapter or two or have each chapter be longer length.
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"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Yes, they ultimately decided Liesa's resurrection to be the result of her pact. A bit weird that angels can't normally be reformed, but I suppose in a world like Innistrad it makes sense.
Looks likes all those wanting the other archangels to be reborn/return will be disappointed.
let me put it this way
is liesa evil from the demons/revenge thirsty from her death…… not even close it looks like she severely regretted doing that and even saved a human and killed the demon she made the deal with. (Well not kill more like prevent him from resurrecting at all)
I smell a easy redemption arch for her and also reunited with Sigarda and helping her and the Gatewatch/Arllin and somewhat sorin to stop Olivia and her wedding in crimson vow.
Looks likes all those wanting the other archangels to be reborn/return will be disappointed.
let me put it this way
is liesa evil from the demons/revenge thirsty from her death…… not even close it looks like she severely regretted doing that and even saved a human and killed the demon she made the deal with. (Well not kill more like prevent him from resurrecting at all)
I smell a easy redemption arch for her and also reunited with Sigarda and helping her and the Gatewatch/Arllin and somewhat sorin to stop Olivia and her wedding in crimson vow.
I definitely see her helping in Crimson Vow, but less of a redemption arc. I don't think she really was shown to need redeeming in the first place. She did something Avacyn didn't like, but Avacyn was not infallible, Avacyn was blinded by the drive to wipe out the darkness without compromise, Leisa had the same goal of bringing goodness, she just tried to be smarter about it.
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Looks likes all those wanting the other archangels to be reborn/return will be disappointed.
let me put it this way
is liesa evil from the demons/revenge thirsty from her death…… not even close it looks like she severely regretted doing that and even saved a human and killed the demon she made the deal with. (Well not kill more like prevent him from resurrecting at all)
I smell a easy redemption arch for her and also reunited with Sigarda and helping her and the Gatewatch/Arllin and somewhat sorin to stop Olivia and her wedding in crimson vow.
I definitely see her helping in Crimson Vow, but less of a redemption arc. I don't think she really was shown to need redeeming in the first place. She did something Avacyn didn't like, but Avacyn was not infallible, Avacyn was blinded by the drive to wipe out the darkness without compromise, Leisa had the same goal of bringing goodness, she just tried to be smarter about it.
As someone who identifies as black/white I get this angel and I agree.
Darkness is a tool, that can be controlled for good like any other.
It’s like Commander Waterford’s death at the hands of his victims in the Handmaid’s Tale. I still believe there has to be a process to ascertain guilt and keep everything measured but I can’t deny that there’s power in our darker selves, power to do much good.
Sometimes- nice just ain’t ‘nuff.
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“The wind whispers, ‘come home,’ but I cannot.”
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yes but the real interesting part is this...
jerren is dead and it was during eldritch moon he died. and ormendahl fell for Emrakul's influence and lost is own (he got Eldrazified)
so maro i need a big big big exclamation why we got 2 past cards? becausee this is ormendahl before he got corrupted obviously
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/episode-4-harvesttide-2021-09-22
Unfortunately, the side characters are less interesting. Even Teferi, a legacy character and one of my personal favorites in all MTG canon, is irrelevant here. My main gripe with this chapter is that his slowing of the sunset didn't really change or affect the story at all, and thus it didn't even need to be here. It didn't even do anything, really, except save the lives of some human redshirts that we the readers care nothing for. It felt like the author only included that bit because she was handed a list of plot points from WotC that included "Teferi slows the sun." Teferi, Chandra, Kaya, Adeline - all extraneous.
But Arlinn and Tovolar (and Arlinn's wolves!) shine as good characters, and that is enough to carry the story for me.
I can honestly say I can't wait to see the conclusion next week.
I really like how the author wrote the conflict with Arlinn and her needing to balance both humans and werewolves sides and hopefully she survives her dual and we see more of her next set.
EDIT: I also like how they mixed in the Arlinn card having day/night bound and not having full control of her transformation.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/dance-undeath-2021-09-24
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/episode-5-night-closes-round-2021-09-29
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Pretty much from the very last line
and as for crimson vow story you people can make it evil wins ending all you want whenever there’s 2 parts of something you know damn well the heroes will trump in part 2 (that’s why I got 0% sadness from the thanos snap scene)
for this case the wedding will be ruined Olivia might get killed day times comes back.
I'm not sure if Olivia is lying about needing the Moonsilver Key or it actually will genuinely help her in the wedding. I'm very prone to thinking she's lying, but then I'm reminded that Sorin secured the Moonsilver Key for decades for some reason. Sorin keeping the Moonsilver Key in Markov property, so it stayed safe even after House Markov got attacked, smacks even more of Snape being appointed headmaster of Hogwarts now - both now feel like last-ditch attempts to keep some core property or principle safe, even as darkness and terror conquers everything around it, by posting someone with connections to the bad guys to guard it. I'm not sure how much of Sorin keeping the Moonsilver Key was him trying to get back in some vampires' favour and how much was him preventing the other, greedy vampires from grabbing it.
It's quite possible that we'll learn more of the backstory of the Moonsilver Key in Crimson Vow. Maybe it was involved in the creation of Avacyn after all....
Something of note is Katilda seemed to have given up her soul into the key which might hint 1) she's not dead and/or 2) the ritual can still be finished.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Yeah, that one is obvious. I guess that it was trapped in the Key and the ritual will finish.
As for Olivia, it was already apparent in the previous story, but they went in kind of different direction than when she was featured in the Shadows story. There she was more serious, IIRC. Here, for some reason, I really heard her lines in my head in the voice of Miranda Richardson as the Queenie in Blackadder II. "BORING"!!!
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
I think it’s due to the passing and lack of depth to some of the wider storytelling elements.
Everyone has heard of or knows one another already. Character knowledge or motivations are sometimes left unexplained or vague.
it’s like the unfinished sketch of visuals/scenes meant for a movie (or Netflix show…) to flesh out more fully with derper dialogue, combat and world building.
The internal Arlin conflict wasn’t bad, though the resolution seemed a bit simplistic as every werewolf obeyed regardless of their upper hand.
I haveca fart time believing that all Teferi really ended up doing was literally slowing down the sunset. I think he could’ve been more than a match for a few werewolves.
He’s an archmage and with an oldwslkers’s arsenal of tricks n skills. Still powerful despite the mending. He could’ve been a real match for Sorin as well.
<Don’t mind me. Yelling at clouds>
The Vorthos community will await the consequences of the Eldrazi Titans' deaths/sealing. We will keep the watch.
“The wind whispers, ‘come home,’ but I cannot.”
— Teferi
The ritual brings back the day- including her sentinels.
Pre-Avacynisn Paganism is restored with the original archangel sisterhood brought back.
Hope again has a fighting chance.
The Vorthos community will await the consequences of the Eldrazi Titans' deaths/sealing. We will keep the watch.
“The wind whispers, ‘come home,’ but I cannot.”
— Teferi
Yeah, exactly espressed. But this is the same persisting problem since the stories "restarted" with Zendikar Rising, and the main story is always crammed up into about six episodes.
Kaldheim: Big battles happening offscreen or just seen in passing.
Strixhaven: Big time jumps.
But this is all the same - pacing and shallowness problems, just in different forms.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/dusk-reborn-2021-10-01
Looks likes all those wanting the other archangels to be reborn/return will be disappointed.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
The main stories all have been 5 parts and agreed the pacing is an issues, they need another chapter or two or have each chapter be longer length.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
let me put it this way
is liesa evil from the demons/revenge thirsty from her death…… not even close it looks like she severely regretted doing that and even saved a human and killed the demon she made the deal with. (Well not kill more like prevent him from resurrecting at all)
I smell a easy redemption arch for her and also reunited with Sigarda and helping her and the Gatewatch/Arllin and somewhat sorin to stop Olivia and her wedding in crimson vow.
I definitely see her helping in Crimson Vow, but less of a redemption arc. I don't think she really was shown to need redeeming in the first place. She did something Avacyn didn't like, but Avacyn was not infallible, Avacyn was blinded by the drive to wipe out the darkness without compromise, Leisa had the same goal of bringing goodness, she just tried to be smarter about it.
As someone who identifies as black/white I get this angel and I agree.
Darkness is a tool, that can be controlled for good like any other.
It’s like Commander Waterford’s death at the hands of his victims in the Handmaid’s Tale. I still believe there has to be a process to ascertain guilt and keep everything measured but I can’t deny that there’s power in our darker selves, power to do much good.
Sometimes- nice just ain’t ‘nuff.
The Vorthos community will await the consequences of the Eldrazi Titans' deaths/sealing. We will keep the watch.
“The wind whispers, ‘come home,’ but I cannot.”
— Teferi