Question about the newest Planeswalker novel release:
We've all been told that this book will be released in February 2010. It also says this on the Wizards website. However, Amazon has the release date as July 2010. In the past Wizards has changed the release date of a book (i.e Path of the Planeswalker) and has not said anything until people started asking questions because the date changed on Amazon. I'm hoping that this is not the case again. Does anyone know anything?
No one knows and I noticed it too. I think it is february becuse they now releace novels with the third block fo each set. The third block of Zendikar come sout in february.
No one knows and I noticed it too. I think it is february becuse they now releace novels with the third block fo each set. The third block of Zendikar come sout in february.
Right, the third set comes out in April and corresponds with the Zendikar book. I just hope they aren't pushing off CotCV to the summer Planeswalker novel slot. I'm dying to find out what happens with Liliana and that veil! Haha.
Right, the third set comes out in April and corresponds with the Zendikar book. I just hope they aren't pushing off CotCV to the summer Planeswalker novel slot. I'm dying to find out what happens with Liliana and that veil! Haha.
So am I, but I'm dying even more to know WHO the next walker is for the novels.
So am I, but I'm dying even more to know WHO the next walker is for the novels.
Ooooo, agreed. I hope that Elspeth makes an appearance soon, if to do nothing more than to hopefully redeem her character. I wouldn't mind seeing Ajani again either...again for some more character development. And I'm glad that it seems we will see some more of Sarkhan Vol...he needs some more development too......hmm, there seems to be a trend...weren't they all in the same book or something?
Ooooo, agreed. I hope that Elspeth makes an appearance soon, if to do nothing more than to hopefully redeem her character. I wouldn't mind seeing Ajani again either...again for some more character development. And I'm glad that it seems we will see some more of Sarkhan Vol...he needs some more development too......hmm, there seems to be a trend...weren't they all in the same book or something?
Imagine that, what are they chances huh?
Ajani is in limbo right now, because the original pitch we had has been solved (anticlimatically) so.... what do we do with him now? They're essentially going to have to almost completely retool Ajani to give him purpose now that AU solved all the questions, in a really blaise way too (not blaming Doug for this one. They essentially asked the question and then answered it all in one go.)
The other day I was left to question what Liliana is without her demons... the answer was depressingly "What Ajani is now." In some respects, though it gives them better direction, the story specific blurbs weren't NEARLY so useful as the more abstract situations that Jace, Chandra, and Garruk ended up with. Even Garruk is pushing it, but his character is more neutrally alligned than Ajani and Liliana.
Ajani is in limbo right now, because the original pitch we had has been solved (anticlimatically) so.... what do we do with him now? They're essentially going to have to almost completely retool Ajani to give him purpose now that AU solved all the questions, in a really blaise way too (not blaming Doug for this one. They essentially asked the question and then answered it all in one go.)
The other day I was left to question what Liliana is without her demons... the answer was depressingly "What Ajani is now." In some respects, though it gives them better direction, the story specific blurbs weren't NEARLY so useful as the more abstract situations that Jace, Chandra, and Garruk ended up with. Even Garruk is pushing it, but his character is more neutrally alligned than Ajani and Liliana.
Yeah I'd have to agree with you on that one. Liliana, probably because of the excellent way she is portrayed in AoA, is one of my favorite current Magic characters, along with Jace. I've been waiting to see more of them since AoA, and that's what excites me about CotCV, however if Liliana's problems with her demons are all solved in this book, well then, what now? Poor Ajani has the makings of a great character, and when I first read back in the day that his story would include seeking revenge on his brothers mysterious killer, I was excited to see it unfold. And unfold it did...quickly and, like you said, anti-climatically (not to mention predictable). Here's to hoping that Ajani gets pulled back into the action and is given a new purpose for living.
Ok, so it's funny how the mind works, but for some reason all of this talk on AU related things just reminded me of something that I had forgotten but had been meaning to bring up. In the first chapter of AU, Nicol Bolas' master plan concerning Alara is revealed (as if we didn't know it already) and at the very end of the chapter it is said that the purpose of his plans for Alara is so that he can regain his lost power and then be ready to take his revenge. We know that Alara was just a stepping stone to a greater purpose, but what purpose is that? What, or whom, does he want revenge against? Any ideas?
A logical move, considering the fact that Path of the Planeswalker was moved from September 09 to early 2010, where the CotCV was originally scheduled.
Not that I like it...but well, there's nothing we can do with it.
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I'm dying for them to stop stalling with the Magic storyline, it's been so long since I've had something tangible I'm starting to not care.
My current story as of the moment. It makes me wonder when the "big reveal" (as hinted by Brady) will actually happen. When some of the fans have already married and have kids?
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I'm so serious man. If it wasn't for these forums I would have definately stopped caring. I just sold my entire collection of cards, including my Promo book for a little over a grand. This is like my last thread and they are literally holding scissors to it. ..
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Or... I could put a hit out on the current creative team, and we could start over... (*scrawls ancients glyphs on a paper in his own blood.)
So am I, but I'm dying even more to know WHO the next walker is for the novels.
Seriously? It's an actual mystery? Think about it a second. The first planeswalker comic had Jace fighting Chandra (or at least was the precursor to the later brawl), and then later on, Duel Decks: Jace vs Chandra was announced. The next comic had Liliana fighting Garruk, and now the next character-based Duel Decks is Liliana fighting Garruk. And now we look at the novel schedule: Jace, Chandra, Liliana...you see where this is going?
Barring a really heavy event shaking up the whole multiverse, I'd bet a mox that the next novel will be focused on Garruk. The real mystery is what 'walkers will star in the novels afterwards, given as how there hasn't been a real brawl between them in the comics alone in a while.
In the first chapter of AU, Nicol Bolas' master plan concerning Alara is revealed (as if we didn't know it already) and at the very end of the chapter it is said that the purpose of his plans for Alara is so that he can regain his lost power and then be ready to take his revenge. We know that Alara was just a stepping stone to a greater purpose, but what purpose is that? What, or whom, does he want revenge against? Any ideas?
He despises the Mending and wishes it never happened. It's the reason he lost so much knowledge and power and had to resort to stirring up massive wars on Alara to re-energize himself, and even then it was a desperate gambit. He obviously seeks revenge against those responsible for the Mending, namely Teferi, Jhoira, Venser and Radha, as well as any descendants of theirs that have since followed. Possibly also against Night's Reach, as while it is inferred he successfully sought revenge against her, it is unclear if he destroyed her or not.
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Seriously? It's an actual mystery? Think about it a second. The first planeswalker comic had Jace fighting Chandra (or at least was the precursor to the later brawl), and then later on, Duel Decks: Jace vs Chandra was announced. The next comic had Liliana fighting Garruk, and now the next character-based Duel Decks is Liliana fighting Garruk. And now we look at the novel schedule: Jace, Chandra, Liliana...you see where this is going?
Barring a really heavy event shaking up the whole multiverse, I'd bet a mox that the next novel will be focused on Garruk. The real mystery is what 'walkers will star in the novels afterwards, given as how there hasn't been a real brawl between them in the comics alone in a while.
He despises the Mending and wishes it never happened. It's the reason he lost so much knowledge and power and had to resort to stirring up massive wars on Alara to re-energize himself, and even then it was a desperate gambit. He obviously seeks revenge against those responsible for the Mending, namely Teferi, Jhoira, Venser and Radha, as well as any descendants of theirs that have since followed. Possibly also against Night's Reach, as while it is inferred he successfully sought revenge against her, it is unclear if he destroyed her or not.
You seem to be underestimating Garruk's role in CotCV. Chandra wasn't even mentioned in Jace's novel, and Jace was all of a toss away encounter in TPF. Thing is, Garruk plays a MAJOR role in CotCV, much more than Jace did in Chandra's book. So, step off your high horse and chill out. I'd estimate that Garruk will have his fair share of development in Curse.
As for Bolas, I don't think he has a bone to pick with the ones you mentioned. If anybody is on Bolas's sh*t list, it would probably be anybody related to Jeska and Kamahl. Bolas recognizes Radha and Venser as his property and dismissed the other two as ultimately already having been spent by the time Jeska pulled her universal mending. He also made mention of the barbarian girl somewhere, but I can't recall exactly which book it was in.
Of course, Night's Reach is still in for it. She managed to slip away before Bolas finished her. [/mortal kombat voice]
If Bolas wants to resurrect Jeska and her biomort brother and torture them for all eternity it would bring the big dumb lizard closer to redeeming himself for the constant failures he's visited upon us over the years.
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Brady has been claiming off and on for a while now that Bolas has some plane-spanning master plan that Alara is just a small part of or something. There is absolutely no reason at all to feel even slightly skeptical about this claim.
@Barinellos:
You know, I would say that our best bet is to look at what character is developed enough to carry a story by themselves, but I wouldn't have thought that Garruck could hold a microfiction, and he's slotted for a novel, so... so much for that test.
My hope: "Ari Marmel's Bolas": A book written entirely about Nicol, written in the first person, and ending with him actually winning.
You know, I would say that our best bet is to look at what character is developed enough to carry a story by themselves, but I wouldn't have thought that Garruck could hold a microfiction, and he's slotted for a novel, so... so much for that test.
He's saying that there is no logic behind Garruks choice. He has no character development so he can't carry a full novel. He's also forgeting that that is how you gain character development, and that it's not just him carrying a story....
(Edit)- Although Keeper makes a great point! !!! !!!(Gives him Credit)
What really needs to be said though, is that this is just an extension of all the other conversations we've had, because we havemt gotten anything new in months, and wizards needs to stop screwing around and give us something new, because everything is stale.
Eh, you got it sort of right, Skaterbruski, although you didn't give me a whole lot of credit... I meant that of all the Neowalkers it seemed like Garruck had the least to him to develop. Very little to work from, in other words. I'm not saying that there wasn't logic in it, just that it came as a surprise to me. Tezzeret I could see making another appearance. The further adventures of Ajani, sure. Garruck? That one caught me off guard.
At the moment, I would normally have placed my bets on Elspeth taking center stage in the next novel, but for all we know it could be Sarkhan Vol (if he doesn't get killed/go completely crazy in the Zendikar novel). I think it's going to be very difficult to predict.
Well, another thing is that we barely get content. We used to have a book every three or four months, now, I don't remember the last time one came out.
I'm fully with you there. It's very hard to speculate reasonably when the information comes at such a parched trickle. Maybe that's why there have been such craaaaazy speculation threads floating around here lately. I would say this is just a dry season compared to what we've gotten used to, but the fact that they haven't said anything about the release dates or given us information about what the heck happened to Nicol Bolas, Karn, Elspeth, Sarkhan Vol, Tezzeret, why the heck Jace decided to rejoin the Consortium, what the heck Garruck's actual backstory is, what, I suppose, happened to Gideon... well, it's a little irritating.
And, for that matter, shouldn't Brady have popped on here to comment by now? It would be nice to get some confirmation on this, even if it's disappointing to hear.
At least we can mollify ourselves with the knowledge that the Planeswalker's Guide to Zendikar is kind of like a book released in installments (and is it just me, or does this one contain much more information than the Guide to Alara did?)
(p.s. Thanks Skaterbruski, I hope I didn't get too whiny just now! I have a tendency to do that... it's my fragile and easily bruised artist ego talking.)
At the moment, I would normally have placed my bets on Elspeth taking center stage in the next novel, but for all we know it could be Sarkhan Vol (if he doesn't get killed/go completely crazy in the Zendikar novel). I think it's going to be very difficult to predict.
Yeah! Elspeth! Since we're pretty much on the "WTF-at-Creatives-Decision" phase with Creative actually green lighting a Magic Chandra manga we can have Elspeth hook up with Sorin and be some dependent Mary Sue. She then finds out that Sorin sparkles when he gets in contact with white mana. After a couple of books she gets pregnant with the most hax baby of the multiverse and gets turned a vampire herself. Oh, wait....
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Ok so, A. concerning Bolas: I realize that he wants revenge against all these people that caused the Mending that stole his powers blah, blah, blah, but, correct me if I'm wrong, wouldn't the majority of these older characters be dead by now? Especially since the Mending ripped the nigh-immortality out of planeswalkers. I seem to remember it being said somewhere that, currently where we are in our storyline, is many years after the Mending.
B. Concerning the next planeswalker novel: The argument that a character won't have their own book because they have no back story or character development is sort of foolish, since neither Jace nor Chandra had any back story or development before their books. At this point I think it's anyone's ballgame as to who gets a novel.
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We've all been told that this book will be released in February 2010. It also says this on the Wizards website. However, Amazon has the release date as July 2010. In the past Wizards has changed the release date of a book (i.e Path of the Planeswalker) and has not said anything until people started asking questions because the date changed on Amazon. I'm hoping that this is not the case again. Does anyone know anything?
Rise actually comes out in April. At least that is what the arcana claimed. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/321
Worldwake is the February set.
Right, the third set comes out in April and corresponds with the Zendikar book. I just hope they aren't pushing off CotCV to the summer Planeswalker novel slot. I'm dying to find out what happens with Liliana and that veil! Haha.
So am I, but I'm dying even more to know WHO the next walker is for the novels.
Ooooo, agreed. I hope that Elspeth makes an appearance soon, if to do nothing more than to hopefully redeem her character. I wouldn't mind seeing Ajani again either...again for some more character development. And I'm glad that it seems we will see some more of Sarkhan Vol...he needs some more development too......hmm, there seems to be a trend...weren't they all in the same book or something?
Imagine that, what are they chances huh?
Ajani is in limbo right now, because the original pitch we had has been solved (anticlimatically) so.... what do we do with him now? They're essentially going to have to almost completely retool Ajani to give him purpose now that AU solved all the questions, in a really blaise way too (not blaming Doug for this one. They essentially asked the question and then answered it all in one go.)
The other day I was left to question what Liliana is without her demons... the answer was depressingly "What Ajani is now." In some respects, though it gives them better direction, the story specific blurbs weren't NEARLY so useful as the more abstract situations that Jace, Chandra, and Garruk ended up with. Even Garruk is pushing it, but his character is more neutrally alligned than Ajani and Liliana.
Yeah I'd have to agree with you on that one. Liliana, probably because of the excellent way she is portrayed in AoA, is one of my favorite current Magic characters, along with Jace. I've been waiting to see more of them since AoA, and that's what excites me about CotCV, however if Liliana's problems with her demons are all solved in this book, well then, what now? Poor Ajani has the makings of a great character, and when I first read back in the day that his story would include seeking revenge on his brothers mysterious killer, I was excited to see it unfold. And unfold it did...quickly and, like you said, anti-climatically (not to mention predictable). Here's to hoping that Ajani gets pulled back into the action and is given a new purpose for living.
Ok, so it's funny how the mind works, but for some reason all of this talk on AU related things just reminded me of something that I had forgotten but had been meaning to bring up. In the first chapter of AU, Nicol Bolas' master plan concerning Alara is revealed (as if we didn't know it already) and at the very end of the chapter it is said that the purpose of his plans for Alara is so that he can regain his lost power and then be ready to take his revenge. We know that Alara was just a stepping stone to a greater purpose, but what purpose is that? What, or whom, does he want revenge against? Any ideas?
Not that I like it...but well, there's nothing we can do with it.
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Or... I could put a hit out on the current creative team, and we could start over... (*scrawls ancients glyphs on a paper in his own blood.)
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Seriously? It's an actual mystery? Think about it a second. The first planeswalker comic had Jace fighting Chandra (or at least was the precursor to the later brawl), and then later on, Duel Decks: Jace vs Chandra was announced. The next comic had Liliana fighting Garruk, and now the next character-based Duel Decks is Liliana fighting Garruk. And now we look at the novel schedule: Jace, Chandra, Liliana...you see where this is going?
Barring a really heavy event shaking up the whole multiverse, I'd bet a mox that the next novel will be focused on Garruk. The real mystery is what 'walkers will star in the novels afterwards, given as how there hasn't been a real brawl between them in the comics alone in a while.
He despises the Mending and wishes it never happened. It's the reason he lost so much knowledge and power and had to resort to stirring up massive wars on Alara to re-energize himself, and even then it was a desperate gambit. He obviously seeks revenge against those responsible for the Mending, namely Teferi, Jhoira, Venser and Radha, as well as any descendants of theirs that have since followed. Possibly also against Night's Reach, as while it is inferred he successfully sought revenge against her, it is unclear if he destroyed her or not.
About any "subpar" mechanics or cards: Context is king.
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The franchise MtG most resembles is Battlestar Galactica. Why? Its players exist in, at most, a dozen different models at any given point in time, with perhaps up to 3% variation, 5% if you're lucky.
You seem to be underestimating Garruk's role in CotCV. Chandra wasn't even mentioned in Jace's novel, and Jace was all of a toss away encounter in TPF. Thing is, Garruk plays a MAJOR role in CotCV, much more than Jace did in Chandra's book. So, step off your high horse and chill out. I'd estimate that Garruk will have his fair share of development in Curse.
As for Bolas, I don't think he has a bone to pick with the ones you mentioned. If anybody is on Bolas's sh*t list, it would probably be anybody related to Jeska and Kamahl. Bolas recognizes Radha and Venser as his property and dismissed the other two as ultimately already having been spent by the time Jeska pulled her universal mending. He also made mention of the barbarian girl somewhere, but I can't recall exactly which book it was in.
Of course, Night's Reach is still in for it. She managed to slip away before Bolas finished her. [/mortal kombat voice]
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The way I see it, anything other than the tiny interplanar hissyfits the neowalkers have been throwing.
Brady has been claiming off and on for a while now that Bolas has some plane-spanning master plan that Alara is just a small part of or something. There is absolutely no reason at all to feel even slightly skeptical about this claim.
@Barinellos:
You know, I would say that our best bet is to look at what character is developed enough to carry a story by themselves, but I wouldn't have thought that Garruck could hold a microfiction, and he's slotted for a novel, so... so much for that test.
My hope: "Ari Marmel's Bolas": A book written entirely about Nicol, written in the first person, and ending with him actually winning.
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(Edit)- Although Keeper makes a great point! !!! !!!(Gives him Credit)
What really needs to be said though, is that this is just an extension of all the other conversations we've had, because we havemt gotten anything new in months, and wizards needs to stop screwing around and give us something new, because everything is stale.
At the moment, I would normally have placed my bets on Elspeth taking center stage in the next novel, but for all we know it could be Sarkhan Vol (if he doesn't get killed/go completely crazy in the Zendikar novel). I think it's going to be very difficult to predict.
FRAGMENTS: A Shards of Alara Anthology
- Chapter 1: Shards of Alara
- Chapter 2: Shards Converge
- Chapter 3: Shards at War
- Chapter 4: Shattered No More
- Complete Illustrated PDF
Want your work to be seen? Join the Expanded Multiverse!And, for that matter, shouldn't Brady have popped on here to comment by now? It would be nice to get some confirmation on this, even if it's disappointing to hear.
At least we can mollify ourselves with the knowledge that the Planeswalker's Guide to Zendikar is kind of like a book released in installments (and is it just me, or does this one contain much more information than the Guide to Alara did?)
(p.s. Thanks Skaterbruski, I hope I didn't get too whiny just now!
FRAGMENTS: A Shards of Alara Anthology
- Chapter 1: Shards of Alara
- Chapter 2: Shards Converge
- Chapter 3: Shards at War
- Chapter 4: Shattered No More
- Complete Illustrated PDF
Want your work to be seen? Join the Expanded Multiverse!Yeah! Elspeth! Since we're pretty much on the "WTF-at-Creatives-Decision" phase with Creative actually green lighting a Magic Chandra manga we can have Elspeth hook up with Sorin and be some dependent Mary Sue. She then finds out that Sorin sparkles when he gets in contact with white mana. After a couple of books she gets pregnant with the most hax baby of the multiverse and gets turned a vampire herself. Oh, wait....
B. Concerning the next planeswalker novel: The argument that a character won't have their own book because they have no back story or character development is sort of foolish, since neither Jace nor Chandra had any back story or development before their books. At this point I think it's anyone's ballgame as to who gets a novel.