While i know the situation being that if I cast Oblivion Ring and say "Targetting Jace, the Mind Sculptor" as I cast it I am locked into that decision as per MTR 4.2
However, if I announce an illegal target (say my opponent's Dungrove Elder) I'm assuming the fix would back up to when I cast oblivion ring rather than oblivion ring's ability going on the stack (as my opponent may desire to counter oblivion ring if it were to target something else, given that he didn't mind losing a dungrove elder before the error was noticed.)
But what would you do if this happened: I cast O-ring and announce the target as Dungrove, my opponent notices says "You can't, that's illegal. Anything else?" And I say "Oh, you're right, targeting Jace." Can he now counter it? I would say that asking "anything else" is an implicit passing of priority until a target would have to be announced.
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If there is confusion resulting from the implementation of a shortcut we back up to the beginning of the shortcut. In this case we would back up to the casting of Oblivion Ring.
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If there is confusion resulting from the implementation of a shortcut we back up to the beginning of the shortcut. In this case we would back up to the casting of Oblivion Ring.
But what about the third scenario in which the opponent asks "anything else." Does that qualify as a passing of priority over O-ring given that you don't have to announce targets until the ring has resolved?
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But what about the third scenario in which the opponent asks "anything else." Does that qualify as a passing of priority over O-ring given that you don't have to announce targets until the ring has resolved?
The o-ring as resolved at this point as the NAP is asking about information that would normally be declared on or after resolution.
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If a player casts a spell or activates an ability and announces choices for it that are not normally made until resolution, the player must adhere to those choices unless an opponent responds to that spell or ability. If an opponent inquires about choices made during resolution, that player is assumed to be passing priority and allowing that spell or ability to resolve.
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However, if I announce an illegal target (say my opponent's Dungrove Elder) I'm assuming the fix would back up to when I cast oblivion ring rather than oblivion ring's ability going on the stack (as my opponent may desire to counter oblivion ring if it were to target something else, given that he didn't mind losing a dungrove elder before the error was noticed.)
But what would you do if this happened: I cast O-ring and announce the target as Dungrove, my opponent notices says "You can't, that's illegal. Anything else?" And I say "Oh, you're right, targeting Jace." Can he now counter it? I would say that asking "anything else" is an implicit passing of priority until a target would have to be announced.
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But what about the third scenario in which the opponent asks "anything else." Does that qualify as a passing of priority over O-ring given that you don't have to announce targets until the ring has resolved?
The o-ring as resolved at this point as the NAP is asking about information that would normally be declared on or after resolution.
Ever wanted to know what guidelines Judges use to make rulings? Find out at the DCI Document Center.
You can also find the latest Comprehensive Rules here.