Say I have both Necrogen Mists and Quest for the Nihil Stone with 2 counters out. My opponent has 1 card in his hand. I pass the turn. I think, because of the wording of the Quest, it only triggers if the opponent has no cards in-hand at the beginning of his upkeep. Therefore, is it true that there is no way to layer these triggers so that he discards and then loses 5 life? I'm afraid it's so...
im afraid youre right. at the beginning of each upkeep, necrogen mists will trigger. however, at the same time, quest for the nihil stone will not trigger. so once the mists resolves your opponent will hold no more cards but the beginning of the upkeep will have passed
Intervening "If" Clause for Nihil Stone?