Player B attacks with both aforementioned creatures. Player A declares the equipped Tidehollow Strix as blocking Dragon Whelp then activates the ability granted by Viridian Longbow and targets the Welkin Tern.
A. Is this play legal?
B. If legal, what happens to the Tidehollow Strix?
C. If legal, what happens to the Dragon Whelp?
A. Yes, this is legal, as long as the Strix does not have summoning sickness. Player A legally activated the ability after declaring blockers. Just because the Strix is tapped after being declared a blocker does not mean it can't continue blocking.
506.4b. Tapping or untapping a creature that's already been declared as an attacker or blocker doesn't remove it from combat and doesn't prevent its combat damage.
B. It will kill the Welkin Tern with its 1 damage deathtouch, then it and the Dragon Whelp will kill each other in combat.
Let me get one thing straight with you. When Condor and an official ruling disagree, 50% of the time the official ruling gets reversed later. The other 50% of the time, the rules get clarified/changed to make the ruling right when it really wasn't before.
Playing Duel of the Planeswalkers on XBOX recently I noticed that a regeneration shield, once it kicks in, takes a creature out of combat and taps it.
This falls in line with what I've understood should happen to a creature with an active regenerate shield, but then creature didn't deal its combat damage either (attacking creature did not have first or double strike).
I want to know:
Is a creature (under the newest rules revision) which has been given a regenerate shield taken out of combat before or after combat damage?
I was surprised by this last night is because my understanding of combat damage and regenerate is:
combat damage is instantaneous, attacking and blocking creatures will take damage simultaneously.
regenerate prevents destruction from abilities or spells that have the word "destroy" in them and from lethal combat damage, i.e. after combat damage.
I know the XBOX game has a few outdated rules (e.g. lifelink and deathtouch) but I wasn't aware of regenerate being different.
Is a creature (under the newest rules revision) which has been given a regenerate shield taken out of combat before or after combat damage?
Right after, when SBAs are checked. Regeneration replaces destruction, which would happen as the SBA for a creature having damage equal or greater to toughness. That creature will still have dealt its damage like normal.
Let me get one thing straight with you. When Condor and an official ruling disagree, 50% of the time the official ruling gets reversed later. The other 50% of the time, the rules get clarified/changed to make the ruling right when it really wasn't before.
the other creature may have had first/double strike. if this were the case then it would deal its damage in the first strike combat step and kill your creature. that would be replaced with regeneration and remove your creature from combat. since your creature is no longer in combat when the normal combat damage step occurs, it won't deal damage.
This falls in line with what I've understood should happen to a creature with an active regenerate shield, but then creature didn't deal its combat damage either (attacking creature did not have first or double strike).
I'm almost certain it didn't. However, it was late at night so maybe I just don't remember it perfectly.
In any case, thank you for the responses.
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Player A has in play Tidehollow Strix which has been equipped with Viridian Longbow.
Player B has in play Dragon Whelp and Welkin Tern.
Player B attacks with both aforementioned creatures. Player A declares the equipped Tidehollow Strix as blocking Dragon Whelp then activates the ability granted by Viridian Longbow and targets the Welkin Tern.
A. Is this play legal?
B. If legal, what happens to the Tidehollow Strix?
C. If legal, what happens to the Dragon Whelp?
506.4b. Tapping or untapping a creature that's already been declared as an attacker or blocker doesn't remove it from combat and doesn't prevent its combat damage.
B. It will kill the Welkin Tern with its 1 damage deathtouch, then it and the Dragon Whelp will kill each other in combat.
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Another, semi-related, question.
Regenerate.
Playing Duel of the Planeswalkers on XBOX recently I noticed that a regeneration shield, once it kicks in, takes a creature out of combat and taps it.
This falls in line with what I've understood should happen to a creature with an active regenerate shield, but then creature didn't deal its combat damage either (attacking creature did not have first or double strike).
I want to know:
Is a creature (under the newest rules revision) which has been given a regenerate shield taken out of combat before or after combat damage?
I was surprised by this last night is because my understanding of combat damage and regenerate is:
combat damage is instantaneous, attacking and blocking creatures will take damage simultaneously.
regenerate prevents destruction from abilities or spells that have the word "destroy" in them and from lethal combat damage, i.e. after combat damage.
I know the XBOX game has a few outdated rules (e.g. lifelink and deathtouch) but I wasn't aware of regenerate being different.
Perhaps my understanding of regenerate is wrong.
Right after, when SBAs are checked. Regeneration replaces destruction, which would happen as the SBA for a creature having damage equal or greater to toughness. That creature will still have dealt its damage like normal.
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Comp Rules, FAQs, and DCI Rules
I'm almost certain it didn't. However, it was late at night so maybe I just don't remember it perfectly.
In any case, thank you for the responses.