Ok, I'm playing with a friend and this situation arises...
It's my turn, my opponent has a vampire hexmagein play and I play Ajani Vengeant. I use Ajani's 2nd ability to destroy one of his creatures, but not the hexmage. Then he wonders whether he could respond to ajani entering play by destroying him (sac the hexmage) and making me unable to play any ability.
How does that work? Do I have priority as the active play and can I use his ability first or can he sac the hexmage before I can do anything with the walker?
Once Ajani resolves, since it's your turn, you gain priority again to use one of his abilities. He can respond by sacing the Hexmage, which should kill Ajani, but since his ability is independant of his survival, it will still resolve.
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If your question is "What would a judge do is this situation?", only one person's answer is relevant, and that is the Head Judge at your event. I can quote the rules, but I don't know your HJ.
Once Ajani resolves, since it's your turn, you gain priority again to use one of his abilities. He can respond by sacing the Hexmage, which should kill Ajani, but since his ability is independant of his survival, it will still resolve.
To continue this question, I just want to clarify my understanding of the stack:
My understanding was that the spell itself went on the stack, is this incorrect?
EG: (hexmage on field)
1. Garruk played, it goes on stack
2. Both players pass priority, spell resolves
3. Active player passes priority, I sac hexmage targetting garruk, pass priority
4. Both players pass priority, hexmage effect resolves
Essentially, does the stack end at step 2, so that there's not a chance to use the stack after the spell resolves? (Unlike an effect/ability, ala countering Demigod so he doesn't return to play)
The stack is a game zone, so it never goes away, or "ends". You are correct that both spells and abilities are put on the stack when they are cast, or activated, but "using the stack" doesn't really have any meaning unless you are talking about using a spell or ability.
The example you listed works just fine, except of course Garruk's player could opt to use his ability instead of passing. Once GArruk resolves, there is nothing on the stack, and so it is ignored until the next thing (in this case, Hexmage's ability) is put on it.
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If your question is "What would a judge do is this situation?", only one person's answer is relevant, and that is the Head Judge at your event. I can quote the rules, but I don't know your HJ.
To continue this question, I just want to clarify my understanding of the stack:
My understanding was that the spell itself went on the stack, is this incorrect?
EG: (hexmage on field)
1. Garruk played, it goes on stack
2. Both players pass priority, spell resolves
3. Active player passes priority, I sac hexmage targetting garruk, pass priority
4. Both players pass priority, hexmage effect resolves
Essentially, does the stack end at step 2, so that there's not a chance to use the stack after the spell resolves? (Unlike an effect/ability, ala countering Demigod so he doesn't return to play)
For that moment, it would stop at 2 when Garruk resolves. With you being the non-active player, you don't have priority at that time and your opponent (with priority) can activate an ability of Garruk's before you can even sac the Hexmage.
However, if he decided to not use Garruk's ability and went onto the next phase, then you'd be passed priority before moving onto the next phase and that's when you could sac the Hexmage. The situation that you described would be simular to this.
For that moment, it would stop at 2 when Garruk resolves. With you being the non-active player, you don't have priority at that time and your opponent (with priority) can activate an ability of Garruk's before you can even sac the Hexmage.
However, if he decided to not use Garruk's ability and went onto the next phase, then you'd be passed priority before moving onto the next phase and that's when you could sac the Hexmage. The situation that you described would be simular to this.
So then after the active player's garruk resolves, the non-active player doesn't get passed priority again until main phase is over or until active player casts another spell, correct?
It's my turn, my opponent has a vampire hexmagein play and I play Ajani Vengeant. I use Ajani's 2nd ability to destroy one of his creatures, but not the hexmage. Then he wonders whether he could respond to ajani entering play by destroying him (sac the hexmage) and making me unable to play any ability.
How does that work? Do I have priority as the active play and can I use his ability first or can he sac the hexmage before I can do anything with the walker?
If your question is "What would a judge do is this situation?", only one person's answer is relevant, and that is the Head Judge at your event. I can quote the rules, but I don't know your HJ.
Cool, that's what I thought.
Thanks for your response!
My understanding was that the spell itself went on the stack, is this incorrect?
EG: (hexmage on field)
1. Garruk played, it goes on stack
2. Both players pass priority, spell resolves
3. Active player passes priority, I sac hexmage targetting garruk, pass priority
4. Both players pass priority, hexmage effect resolves
Essentially, does the stack end at step 2, so that there's not a chance to use the stack after the spell resolves? (Unlike an effect/ability, ala countering Demigod so he doesn't return to play)
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The example you listed works just fine, except of course Garruk's player could opt to use his ability instead of passing. Once GArruk resolves, there is nothing on the stack, and so it is ignored until the next thing (in this case, Hexmage's ability) is put on it.
If your question is "What would a judge do is this situation?", only one person's answer is relevant, and that is the Head Judge at your event. I can quote the rules, but I don't know your HJ.
For that moment, it would stop at 2 when Garruk resolves. With you being the non-active player, you don't have priority at that time and your opponent (with priority) can activate an ability of Garruk's before you can even sac the Hexmage.
However, if he decided to not use Garruk's ability and went onto the next phase, then you'd be passed priority before moving onto the next phase and that's when you could sac the Hexmage. The situation that you described would be simular to this.
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So then after the active player's garruk resolves, the non-active player doesn't get passed priority again until main phase is over or until active player casts another spell, correct?
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Simple math kids:
Redhead + Tsundere = Win
Shimapan + Thigh Highs = Win