If I begin combat with these cards on the field and 2 mana available via, let’s say 2 untapped basic lands (and here assuming nothing else on the battlefield or in any players’ hands), will I be able to go into combat, Target Ria Ivor with her own triggered ability, then activate Lithoform Engine when she hits, or can I only activate Lithoform Engine at the beginning of combat step? Furthermore, if the latter, is it more “optimal” to target Ria twice, or both creatures?
If you copy Ria's second ability with Lithoform Engine, and have the original and the copy target the same creature, this will generate two effects that would both affect the same combat damage the creature would deal "to one or more players this turn". One effect will prevent the damage and create tokens, and the other will do nothing.
Lithoform Engine doesn’t make a creature a copy of another creature. It copies abilities (activated or triggered) and spells. I’m mostly asking about if Ria Ivor can make twice as many Mites with Lithoform Engine’s first activated ability, and at what point I can activate Lithoform Engine to facilitate this.
Lithoform Engine doesn’t make a creature a copy of another creature. It copies abilities (activated or triggered) and spells. I’m mostly asking about if Ria Ivor can make twice as many Mites with Lithoform Engine’s first activated ability, and at what point I can activate Lithoform Engine to facilitate this.
In general, if you copy Ria's second ability with Lithoform Engine, either the copy's target should be different from the original, or the target should have double strike. You can copy an ability with Lithoform Engine's first ability only while that ability is on the stack.
I appreciate that. I’m going to have to nitpick just a smidge as both prevention effects apparently apply to the first instance of damage from the target, but overall you answered my questions perfectly fine otherwise.
EDIT: one judge said that on a chat and another agrees with you, so I’m waiting to be sure of it but if so I’m sorry for doubting
edit 2: CR614.3 is the ruling he cites and upon reading it that confirms it for me. I humbly apologize. Thanks again!
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If I begin combat with these cards on the field and 2 mana available via, let’s say 2 untapped basic lands (and here assuming nothing else on the battlefield or in any players’ hands), will I be able to go into combat, Target Ria Ivor with her own triggered ability, then activate Lithoform Engine when she hits, or can I only activate Lithoform Engine at the beginning of combat step? Furthermore, if the latter, is it more “optimal” to target Ria twice, or both creatures?
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EDIT: one judge said that on a chat and another agrees with you, so I’m waiting to be sure of it but if so I’m sorry for doubting
edit 2: CR614.3 is the ruling he cites and upon reading it that confirms it for me. I humbly apologize. Thanks again!
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