I have Thalia, Heretic Cathar on the battlefield. It's my opponent's turn, and they already have Greasefang, Okiba Boss on the battlefield, played in a previous turn. They fetch Parhelion II at the beginning of combat (from their graveyard). Greasefang crews the vehicle, and opponent attacks with Parhelion II. It's ability triggers, and two 4/4 Angel tokens are created. They enter the battlefield tapped, because of Thalia. But Parhelion II's ability says that they are attacking. Are they still attacking, because they ETB tapped?
Vigilance is a bit messing with my understanding of this interaction.
That being said, I'm not even sure what happens to Adeline, Resplendent Cathar's tokens in that scenario. The ability says that the 1/1 Human token ETB tapped and attacking. How does Thalia, Heretic Cathar's ability messes with that, if at all?
Vigilance only matters when attackers are declared during the declare attackers turn based action. Any such attacker will not get tapped when declared as attacker. But for entering attacking it's irrelevant. As is entering tapped or untapped. Still attacking.
OK, thanks. So, in that scenario of the Humans vs Greasefang matchup (Pioneer), Big Thalia is only good to tap the two 4/4 Angel tokens, so opponent can't use them to crew or block on my turn... which is only good if I can go lethal (dead, otherwise, I am).
Vigilance is a bit messing with my understanding of this interaction.
That being said, I'm not even sure what happens to Adeline, Resplendent Cathar's tokens in that scenario. The ability says that the 1/1 Human token ETB tapped and attacking. How does Thalia, Heretic Cathar's ability messes with that, if at all?
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