Hello guys,
Playing with my vampire deck I found an opponent who used Shielding plax (enchanted creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control) on his creature.
My question is: if the creature with Shielding plax is the only one on the battlefield, does it prevent the sacrifice effect of an other card?
I played my Butcher of Malakir (whenever a creature you control dies, each opponent sacrifices a creature) and sacrificed one other my creature to activate it's effect.
In my opinion it's ability is on a target player (who is forced to sacrifice a creature), not on a single creature. Am I right?
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Butcher of Malakir's ability doesn't target anything - neither the creature, nor the player. As it doesn't target the creature, it can make your opponent sacrifice a creature enchanted with Shielding Plax.
Notice it's not about being a "sacrifice effect" - Mercy Killing is a sacrifice effect that targets the creature, so it wouldn't work here. It's all about the specific wording on the card itself.
Hello guys,
Playing with my vampire deck I found an opponent who used Shielding plax (enchanted creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control) on his creature.
My question is: if the creature with Shielding plax is the only one on the battlefield, does it prevent the sacrifice effect of an other card?
"Enchanted creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control."
It says nothing about interfering with "sacrifice". Just "target".
I played my Butcher of Malakir (whenever a creature you control dies, each opponent sacrifices a creature) and sacrificed one other my creature to activate [sic] it's effect.
In my opinion it's ability is on a target player (who is forced to sacrifice a creature), not on a single creature. Am I right?
"Whenever Butcher of Malakir or another creature you control dies, each opponent sacrifices a creature." There is no target here. Shielding Plax doesn't even try to interfere with it, and the creature it's attached to is as valid a sacrifice choice as any other creature that opponent might control.
115.1d A triggered ability is targeted if it identifies something it will affect by using the phrase “target [something],” where the “something” is a phrase that describes an object and/or player. The target(s) are chosen as the ability is put on the stack; see rule 603.3d.
115.10. Spells and abilities can affect objects and players they don’t target. In general, those objects and players aren’t chosen until the spell or ability resolves. See rule 608, “Resolving Spells and Abilities.”
115.10a Just because an object or player is being affected by a spell or ability doesn’t make that object or player a target of that spell or ability. Unless that object or player is identified by the word “target” in the text of that spell or ability, or the rule for that keyword ability, it’s not a target.
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Playing with my vampire deck I found an opponent who used Shielding plax (enchanted creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control) on his creature.
My question is: if the creature with Shielding plax is the only one on the battlefield, does it prevent the sacrifice effect of an other card?
I played my Butcher of Malakir (whenever a creature you control dies, each opponent sacrifices a creature) and sacrificed one other my creature to activate it's effect.
In my opinion it's ability is on a target player (who is forced to sacrifice a creature), not on a single creature. Am I right?
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Notice it's not about being a "sacrifice effect" - Mercy Killing is a sacrifice effect that targets the creature, so it wouldn't work here. It's all about the specific wording on the card itself.
[c]Butcher of Malakir[/c] -> Butcher of Malakir
"Enchanted creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control."
It says nothing about interfering with "sacrifice". Just "target".
"Whenever Butcher of Malakir or another creature you control dies, each opponent sacrifices a creature." There is no target here. Shielding Plax doesn't even try to interfere with it, and the creature it's attached to is as valid a sacrifice choice as any other creature that opponent might control.