just wanna asking regarding 2 card trigger, Vorapede and the ozolith. Let say the situation is vorapede has +1 +1 counter and i have ozolith on my board.
let say my vorapede got destroy by creature/spell either way. now my question is, will vorapede come back to the battlefield if the ozolith trigger 1st , some say ozolith dont move counter. so just wanna confirm on the trigger and the ozolith text. Btw, vorapede has undying skill. your opinion is much appreciate.:sunny:
First, with a +1/+1 counter on vorapede its undying ability will not trigger. It has to have no +1/+1 counters at the time of its death for that to happen.
Second, even though The Ozolith says to move the counters, it still just means to put the same number and type of counters on Ozolith that the leaving creature had. Those are new counters, not the same ones.
So in conclusion, in your scenario The Ozolith gets a +1/+1 counter from Vorapede leaving the battlefield, and Vorapede stays in the graveyard.
Also, if Vorapede had for example a -1/-1 counter instead, both triggers would go off at the same time since they trigger off of the same event. And they are put on the stack at the same time. So you go from no trigger on the stack to two triggers on the stack. You don't wait for one to resolve before putting the next one on. If you control both triggers (which in this scenario you do) you can choose their order on the stack and thus the order in which they resolve via LIFO (Last In First Out), so resolution happens in reverse order.
just wanna asking regarding 2 card trigger, Vorapede and the ozolith. Let say the situation is vorapede has +1 +1 counter and i have ozolith on my board.
let say my vorapede got destroy by creature/spell either way. now my question is, will vorapede come back to the battlefield if the ozolith trigger 1st , some say ozolith dont move counter. so just wanna confirm on the trigger and the ozolith text. Btw, vorapede has undying skill. your opinion is much appreciate.:sunny:
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Vorapede
The Ozolith
First, with a +1/+1 counter on vorapede its undying ability will not trigger. It has to have no +1/+1 counters at the time of its death for that to happen.
Second, even though The Ozolith says to move the counters, it still just means to put the same number and type of counters on Ozolith that the leaving creature had. Those are new counters, not the same ones.
So in conclusion, in your scenario The Ozolith gets a +1/+1 counter from Vorapede leaving the battlefield, and Vorapede stays in the graveyard.
Also, if Vorapede had for example a -1/-1 counter instead, both triggers would go off at the same time since they trigger off of the same event. And they are put on the stack at the same time. So you go from no trigger on the stack to two triggers on the stack. You don't wait for one to resolve before putting the next one on. If you control both triggers (which in this scenario you do) you can choose their order on the stack and thus the order in which they resolve via LIFO (Last In First Out), so resolution happens in reverse order.
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