So I’ve done numerous google searches and I’m probably missing the ruling for the rules on adventures, so i was hoping someone could clear it up for me.
Can a creature, who is exiled after going on an adventure (e.g. Fae of Wishes), be removed with creature removal while on an adventure? For example I send a creature on an adventure and my opponent wants to murder, Disfigure, Blink of an Eye, etc...Can he? Or does the adventuring card need to be summoned from exile to the battlefield first?
Thanks in advance for the help!
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No. A player can not use Murder, etc. on a creature card in exile. This can be a little tricky for newer, and even moderately experienced, players, but, essentially, objects in Magic can fall into one of three broad categories: permanents, spells, and cards. An object is a permanents while it is on the battlefield, a spell while on the stack (excluding abilities), and card while in any zone other than the stack or battlefield. The tricky part is that, while anything that affects cards and spells will name cards and spells in their text, permanent status is usually implied.
It says "creature spell," so it only affects creatures on the stack.
Now look at Raise Dead:
"Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand."
It says "creature card," while naming the graveyard, so it only affects creatures in your graveyard. Anything that affects cards will name the zone.
Lastly, take a look at the text of Murder:
"Destroy target creature."
It says neither spell nor card, so it actually defaults to "creature permanent," even though affecting permanents is only ever spelled out on cards that can affect more than one card type, like Assassin's Trophy. Thus, since Murder does not affect spells nor cards in a given zone, it can only target creature permanents on the battlefield.
No. A player can not use Murder, etc. on a creature card in exile. This can be a little tricky for newer, and even moderately experienced, players, but, essentially, objects in Magic can fall into one of three broad categories: permanents, spells, and cards. An object is a permanents while it is on the battlefield, a spell while on the stack (excluding abilities), and card while in any zone other than the stack or battlefield. The tricky part is that, while anything that affects cards and spells will name cards and spells in their text, permanent status is usually implied.
It says "creature spell," so it only affects creatures on the stack.
Now look at Raise Dead:
"Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand."
It says "creature card," while naming the graveyard, so it only affects creatures in your graveyard. Anything that affects cards will name the zone.
Lastly, take a look at the text of Murder:
"Destroy target creature."
It says neither spell nor card, so it actually defaults to "creature permanent," even though affecting permanents is only ever spelled out on cards that can affect more than one card type, like Assassin's Trophy. Thus, since Murder does not affect spells nor cards in a given zone, it can only target creature permanents on the battlefield.
You are amazing, thank you for this incredibly detailed explanation! It’s what I figured, but I didn’t have the information behind it, so very much appreciated. Cheers!
Rule 109.2: If a spell or ability uses a description of an object that includes a card type or subtype, but doesn’t include the word “card,” “spell,” “source,” or “scheme,” it means a permanent of that card type or subtype on the battlefield.
Can a creature, who is exiled after going on an adventure (e.g. Fae of Wishes), be removed with creature removal while on an adventure? For example I send a creature on an adventure and my opponent wants to murder, Disfigure, Blink of an Eye, etc...Can he? Or does the adventuring card need to be summoned from exile to the battlefield first?
Thanks in advance for the help!
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For example, take a look at the text of Essence Scatter:
"Counter target creature spell."
It says "creature spell," so it only affects creatures on the stack.
Now look at Raise Dead:
"Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand."
It says "creature card," while naming the graveyard, so it only affects creatures in your graveyard. Anything that affects cards will name the zone.
Lastly, take a look at the text of Murder:
"Destroy target creature."
It says neither spell nor card, so it actually defaults to "creature permanent," even though affecting permanents is only ever spelled out on cards that can affect more than one card type, like Assassin's Trophy. Thus, since Murder does not affect spells nor cards in a given zone, it can only target creature permanents on the battlefield.
You are amazing, thank you for this incredibly detailed explanation! It’s what I figured, but I didn’t have the information behind it, so very much appreciated. Cheers!
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