So, the Horde of Notions oracle text still says "play" rather than "cast" without paying mana cost. I was wondering if I could "cast" Zacama, Primal Calamity from my graveyard with Horde of Notions if I controlled an Arcane Adaptation naming "Elemental". Also, would Zacama, Primal Calamity's etb trigger? Horde of Notions still says "play" instead of "cast", but Zacama, Primal Calamity will only trigger if it is "cast". I know this is a terminology question, but I thought I should ask in case I'm missing something. Please explain why, or why not. Thank you in advance!
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In my group there's this thing called taking a "Ryan turn."
Yeah, that's my fault...
To play a nonland card means to cast that card as a spell (C.R. 701.14b). For the purposes of Zacama's triggered ability, if "you cast" Zacama with Horde of Notions and the permanent that spell becomes enters the battlefield, "you [have] cast" Zacama this way. This is the case even though Horde of Notions's activated ability allows a player to "play" (rather than "cast") a given card when it resolves.
EDIT (Jul. 21): One rule was renumbered in the meantime.
So I could for example...play Zacama, Primal Calamity from my graveyard with Horde of Notions, tap all my lands for mana in response to Zacama's etb, untap all my lands, sacrifice Zacama to Phyrexian Altar, and repeat from the first step to generate infinite mana? I was also wondering if Horde of Notions' ability ignores timing restrictions, or not. Can I do this at instant speed, or do I need another card like Alchemist's Refuge, or Leyline of Anticipation to complete the combo?
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In my group there's this thing called taking a "Ryan turn."
Yeah, that's my fault...
So I could for example...play Zacama, Primal Calamity from my graveyard with Horde of Notions, tap all my lands for mana in response to Zacama's etb, untap all my lands, sacrifice Zacama to Phyrexian Altar, and repeat from the first step to generate infinite mana?
The targeted Elemental card is played during the resolution of Horde of Notions's activated ability, which is a moment that cards normally can't be played (for spells, the rule is C.R. 608.2f). Compare that ability with Ornate Kanzashi's ability and see also this thread and this thread.
Yeah, that's my fault...
EDIT (Jul. 21): One rule was renumbered in the meantime.
Yeah, that's my fault...
You can cause a loop like this.
The targeted Elemental card is played during the resolution of Horde of Notions's activated ability, which is a moment that cards normally can't be played (for spells, the rule is C.R. 608.2f). Compare that ability with Ornate Kanzashi's ability and see also this thread and this thread.