Hi i want to know if it is possible to use one lake of the dead to produce one swamp and sacrify this created swamp by another lake of the dead to produce four swamp? Or it is possible to use vault of whispers to produce a swamp and sacrify this produced swamp with the lake of the dead (without sacrify the vault of whisper ) to produce four swamp?
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Ok thank you, but it is not really clear, because one of the used combo is lake of the dead and dark ritual that basically is the same concept, so what is the difference?
Ok thank you, but it is not really clear, because one of the used combo is lake of the dead and dark ritual that basically is the same concept, so what is the difference?
Dark Ritual and Lake of the Dead don't interact with each other at all. They both produce black mana, not swamps. Lake of the Dead only lets its controller sacrifice land permanents that have the Swamp subtype.
Ok thank you, but it is not really clear, because one of the used combo is lake of the dead and dark ritual that basically is the same concept, so what is the difference?
Lands are permanents with the land card type on the battlefield. Mana is the magical energy to fuel your spells. It is not physically represented within the game. Representing mana is not nessessary, because it is usually used up right away after being produced, and vanishes with the end of every step and phase if not used. Mana is stored in your mana pool, which like mana, is not physically represented within the game. Your lands on the battlefield are not your mana pool. Lands can usually produce mana, but they aren't the mana. To use an analogy: lands are like cows, mana is like milk. Just like you drink milk and not the cow to quench your thirst, you spend mana on your spells and not the lands.
Mana can be produced in many ways, tapping lands for mana is one such way, resolving a Dark Ritual is another. You can't sacrifice mana, so this "combo" doesn't work, since you don't get any lands from the Ritual, just mana.
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Here are some helpful pages on mana and lands.
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Dark Ritual and Lake of the Dead don't interact with each other at all. They both produce black mana, not swamps. Lake of the Dead only lets its controller sacrifice land permanents that have the Swamp subtype.
Lands are permanents with the land card type on the battlefield. Mana is the magical energy to fuel your spells. It is not physically represented within the game. Representing mana is not nessessary, because it is usually used up right away after being produced, and vanishes with the end of every step and phase if not used. Mana is stored in your mana pool, which like mana, is not physically represented within the game. Your lands on the battlefield are not your mana pool. Lands can usually produce mana, but they aren't the mana. To use an analogy: lands are like cows, mana is like milk. Just like you drink milk and not the cow to quench your thirst, you spend mana on your spells and not the lands.
Mana can be produced in many ways, tapping lands for mana is one such way, resolving a Dark Ritual is another. You can't sacrifice mana, so this "combo" doesn't work, since you don't get any lands from the Ritual, just mana.
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