The rules for the fight mechanic don't specify when damage from a fight wears off, so my assumption has always been that the damage remains until the Cleanup phase like all other damage does. However, the way it's played on Arena is that the damage wears off immediately after board states resolve. I have to believe this is a bug in Arena code, but considering it's a platform being used for tournaments, it's made me wonder. Can anyone provide more insight?
A friend of mine recently lost an Arena match with this scenario:
Opponent used Fight with a 7/6 Carnage Tyrant against my friend's 5/5 Hydroid Krasis. The opponent's Carnage Tyrant should have had 5 damage on it going into combat phase. He attacked into an empty board with the Carnage Tyrant, and my friend flashed in a Frilled Mystic to block, which should have done enough damage to kill the Carnage Tyrant, but it didn't die. No spells or abilities were otherwise modifying damage being dealt, so it seems like the 5 damage from the Hydroid Krasis just disappeared prior to the combat phase.
You are correct that it wears off in the Cleanup step with all other damage marked on a creature. Without knowing the spell the opponent used on their own Tyrant, it is difficult to know what happened. However, my guess is that it was not a card that causes the creatures to Fight. It was likely something like Rabid Bite which would have the result you described as happening.
Thanks for the quick response. Good to know my assumptions were correct, gonna do some more testing on Arena tonight and see if it's a bug or was maybe fixed. My friend doesn't remember the exact fight spell, thinks it was Pounce or Savage Stomp, but hard to say -- apparently it was a month ago or so.
We were playing an EDH game today with Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves and had some questions about the interaction with Panharmonicon. If fight damage was cleared off right away, the extra fights from the Panharmonicon triggers would be crazy good.
Thanks for the confirmation!
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A friend of mine recently lost an Arena match with this scenario:
Opponent used Fight with a 7/6 Carnage Tyrant against my friend's 5/5 Hydroid Krasis. The opponent's Carnage Tyrant should have had 5 damage on it going into combat phase. He attacked into an empty board with the Carnage Tyrant, and my friend flashed in a Frilled Mystic to block, which should have done enough damage to kill the Carnage Tyrant, but it didn't die. No spells or abilities were otherwise modifying damage being dealt, so it seems like the 5 damage from the Hydroid Krasis just disappeared prior to the combat phase.
Is that how it is supposed to happen?
We were playing an EDH game today with Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves and had some questions about the interaction with Panharmonicon. If fight damage was cleared off right away, the extra fights from the Panharmonicon triggers would be crazy good.
Thanks for the confirmation!