For Burning Cinder Fury of Crimson Chaos Fire does "tapping" mean tapping as part of a cost (since that seems like the only time a player strictly "taps" a card) or does it mean anytime a permanent becomes tapped -- including creatures attacking and so forth?
I might be wrong, but this seems to be the same kind of effect like on standard cards with wording like 'whenever a creature/land/artifact becomes tapped'. So in my opinion this works everytime any permanent becomes tapped (including attacking creatures, tapping lands for mana or using activated abilities that require tapping)
As it is a Unglued card, there is no real rules support for it.
But assuming it works within the framework of the rules as much as possible, it means whenever a player performs the keyword action "Tap" on a permanent.
701 Keyword Actions
701.1: Most actions described in a card's rules text use the standard English definitions of the verbs within, but some specialized verbs are used whose meanings may not be clear. These "keywords" are game terms; sometimes reminder text summarizes their meanings.
701.20: Tap and Untap
701.20a: To tap a permanent, turn it sideways from an upright position. Only untapped permanents can be tapped.
The T symbol uses this keyword action. Tapping when declaring attackers also uses this action.
107.5: The tap symbol is {T}. The tap symbol in an activation cost means "Tap this permanent." A permanent that's already tapped can't be tapped again to pay the cost. A creature's activated ability with the tap symbol in its activation cost can't be activated unless the creature has been under its controller's control continuously since their most recent turn began. See rule 302.6.
508.1f: The active player taps the chosen creatures. Tapping a creature when it's declared as an attacker isn't a cost; attacking simply causes creatures to become tapped.
since that seems like the only time a player strictly "taps" a card
I'm not sure why you think that in, say, Goldmeadow Harrier, only the Harrier becoming tapped counts.
It is obvious to me the same player is tapping both the Harrier and its target, so that player will choose one of their opponent's to gain control of Harrier, and the same or other to gain control of Harrier's target.
As it is a Unglued card, there is no real rules support for it.
But assuming it works within the framework of the rules as much as possible, it means whenever a player performs the keyword action "Tap" on a permanent.
701 Keyword Actions
701.1: Most actions described in a card's rules text use the standard English definitions of the verbs within, but some specialized verbs are used whose meanings may not be clear. These "keywords" are game terms; sometimes reminder text summarizes their meanings.
701.20: Tap and Untap
701.20a: To tap a permanent, turn it sideways from an upright position. Only untapped permanents can be tapped.
The T symbol uses this keyword action. Tapping when declaring attackers also uses this action.
107.5: The tap symbol is {T}. The tap symbol in an activation cost means "Tap this permanent." A permanent that's already tapped can't be tapped again to pay the cost. A creature's activated ability with the tap symbol in its activation cost can't be activated unless the creature has been under its controller's control continuously since their most recent turn began. See rule 302.6.
508.1f: The active player taps the chosen creatures. Tapping a creature when it's declared as an attacker isn't a cost; attacking simply causes creatures to become tapped.
[Quote]since that seems like the only time a player strictly "taps" a card
I believe the Harrier's ability goes on the stack and the ability is what does the tapping in that case -- for instance if it is the player doing the tapping rather than the ability then why would something like "protection from white" stop it?
Well protection doesn't specify anything about tapping. Aether Shockwave taps a Black Knight. But abilities from white sources that target can't target anything with protection from white.
Well protection doesn't specify anything about tapping. Aether Shockwave taps a Black Knight. But abilities from white sources that target can't target anything with protection from white.
The point being that the source is white and not the player directly
Protection cares about the source of an ability, not its controller. If the source has the quality that's being protected from, that source's abilities cannot target the protected object. (The exception here being actual protection from a player, True-Name Nemesis, where control by the player is the relevant quality.)
Nest of Scarabs cares about a player putting counters on a permanent.
Effects that care whether an action is done while a particular spell or ability is resolving will generally care about the spell or ability doing that action directly (e.g., Equinox, Karmic Justice), or causing that action to be done (e.g., Pure Intentions, Rain of Gore).
I believe the Harrier's ability goes on the stack and the ability is what does the tapping in that case
No. The ability instructs its controller to tap the creature.
608.2c: The controller of the spell or ability follows its instructions in the order written. However, replacement effects may modify these actions. In some cases, later text on the card may modify the meaning of earlier text (for example, "Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated" or "Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, put it on top of its owner's library instead of into its owner's graveyard.") Don't just apply effects step by step without thinking in these cases-read the whole text and apply the rules of English to the text.
-- for instance if it is the player doing the tapping rather than the ability then why would something like "protection from white" stop it?
Protection from White prevents the creature from being the target of an ability from a white source.
It doesn't directly prevent the creature from being "acted upon" by an ability from a white source.
It doesn't matter who is doing the tapping, only that the ability requires a target and that its source is white.
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But assuming it works within the framework of the rules as much as possible, it means whenever a player performs the keyword action "Tap" on a permanent.
701 Keyword Actions
701.1: Most actions described in a card's rules text use the standard English definitions of the verbs within, but some specialized verbs are used whose meanings may not be clear. These "keywords" are game terms; sometimes reminder text summarizes their meanings.
701.20: Tap and Untap
701.20a: To tap a permanent, turn it sideways from an upright position. Only untapped permanents can be tapped.
The T symbol uses this keyword action. Tapping when declaring attackers also uses this action.
107.5: The tap symbol is {T}. The tap symbol in an activation cost means "Tap this permanent." A permanent that's already tapped can't be tapped again to pay the cost. A creature's activated ability with the tap symbol in its activation cost can't be activated unless the creature has been under its controller's control continuously since their most recent turn began. See rule 302.6.
508.1f: The active player taps the chosen creatures. Tapping a creature when it's declared as an attacker isn't a cost; attacking simply causes creatures to become tapped.
I'm not sure why you think that in, say, Goldmeadow Harrier, only the Harrier becoming tapped counts.
It is obvious to me the same player is tapping both the Harrier and its target, so that player will choose one of their opponent's to gain control of Harrier, and the same or other to gain control of Harrier's target.
I believe the Harrier's ability goes on the stack and the ability is what does the tapping in that case -- for instance if it is the player doing the tapping rather than the ability then why would something like "protection from white" stop it?
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The point being that the source is white and not the player directly
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Effects that care whether an action is done while a particular spell or ability is resolving will generally care about the spell or ability doing that action directly (e.g., Equinox, Karmic Justice), or causing that action to be done (e.g., Pure Intentions, Rain of Gore).
No. The ability instructs its controller to tap the creature.
608.2c: The controller of the spell or ability follows its instructions in the order written. However, replacement effects may modify these actions. In some cases, later text on the card may modify the meaning of earlier text (for example, "Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated" or "Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, put it on top of its owner's library instead of into its owner's graveyard.") Don't just apply effects step by step without thinking in these cases-read the whole text and apply the rules of English to the text.
Protection from White prevents the creature from being the target of an ability from a white source.
It doesn't directly prevent the creature from being "acted upon" by an ability from a white source.
It doesn't matter who is doing the tapping, only that the ability requires a target and that its source is white.