I have Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker and Big Game Hunter both on the field. My opponent has a 3/3 targetable creature that has been buffed with some variety of "creature has +1/+1 until end of turn". At some point during this turn my Hunter dies, and "at the start of the next end step" is successfully reanimated by Shirei.
The power buff on the 3/3 creature will not fade until the Cleanup Step, but Shirei's ability brings the Hunter back during the End Step, so the 3/3 (now a 4/4) creature would be a legal target for the Hunter's ETB ability and thus it would die to the Hunter, correct?
Ran into a small issue with this where we couldn't figure out when the buff faded from the 3/3 based on our knowledge of those phrasings, but after reading up I believe this is how it should have gone down, so I'm double checking with you all. Thanks!
You're correct, "until end of turn" effects don't end until the cleanup step, which is after the end step where Big Game Hunter is returned to the battlefield by Shirei. The creature is still big enough to be targeted and destroyed at that point.
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You're correct, "until end of turn" effects don't end until the cleanup step, which is after the end step where Big Game Hunter is returned to the battlefield by Shirei. The creature is still big enough to be targeted and destroyed at that point.
we couldn't figure out when the buff faded from the 3/3 based on the phrasing on the card
Which card was that?
Tbh, I don't remember exactly, lol. Long and short of it was we'd not run into end step vs cleanup step timings before, so just didn't know the difference. I've fixed my post to reflect it being an issue with me, not the card.
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The power buff on the 3/3 creature will not fade until the Cleanup Step, but Shirei's ability brings the Hunter back during the End Step, so the 3/3 (now a 4/4) creature would be a legal target for the Hunter's ETB ability and thus it would die to the Hunter, correct?
Ran into a small issue with this where we couldn't figure out when the buff faded from the 3/3 based on our knowledge of those phrasings, but after reading up I believe this is how it should have gone down, so I'm double checking with you all. Thanks!
RULES OF MAGIC :
http://magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/gameplay/rules-and-formats/rules
Perfect! Thank you!
Tbh, I don't remember exactly, lol. Long and short of it was we'd not run into end step vs cleanup step timings before, so just didn't know the difference. I've fixed my post to reflect it being an issue with me, not the card.