I have a question as to what happens regarding the following set of events, that from what I can tell mostly revolves around what "happens" to a creature when it is modified or changed, though it could also delve into whether the trigger/effect has the condition, or whether the creature itself does.
From what I'm looking at in the rulings it looks like the values of both "Name" and "rules text" would change, and thus the newly copied Ornithopter could die and the card exiled by Kitesail would be gone for good?
Obviously a pretty niche case, but I wonder if it would end up working to get around the LTB trigger.
There is no LTB trigger and the Freebooter is still the same object; it just looks a little different. So, in this case, once the Kitesail (now Ornithopter) leaves, the card is returned.
If you did this with something like Fiend Hunter then it will be exiled forever because there is a LTB trigger. Since the Fiend Hunter, as an Ornithopter, does not have said trigger, nothing is there to cause it to trigger to give the card back.
So to be clear, in the case of Kitesail Freebooter, the "Exile that card until KF leaves the battlefield" is a property belonging to the exiled card, while with Fiend Hunter it belongs to FH.
No, the difference is, that the older cards like Fiend Hunter have two triggered abilities each with their own one-shot effects, that are linked, and can only find the card in exile, while newer cards like Kitesail Freebooter and other newer cards have just one triggered ability, that creates one continuous effect with a duration. When the duration expires, the card returns immediately, and can return from whatever zone it went to initially, if it is still there.
Kitesail Freebooter doesn't create a continuous effect. It creates a one-shot effect and a second one-shot effect "immediately after" a specified time.
610.3. Some one-shot effects cause an object to change zones “until” a specified event occurs. A second one-shot effect is created immediately after the specified event. This second one-shot effect returns the object to its previous zone.
Locating the 'quality' that makes something happen in Magic is usually a case of finding either some piece of text, some action, or some rule-changing effect. In this case, it seems that the monitoring of the "until" condition is not a continuous effect, and not a quality of a specific object's text that presently exists. It's just a behaviour of the kind of ability Freebooter has, according to this rule 610.3. That ability tells you to do two things, one right away, and one at another time.
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Kitesail Freebooter enters -> Kitesails effect steals a card -> Metamorphic Alteration is cast enchanting Kitesail Freebooter copying Ornithopter -> Ornithopter (kitesail) leaves the battle field, what happens to the card that was exiled by Kitesail's effect?
From what I'm looking at in the rulings it looks like the values of both "Name" and "rules text" would change, and thus the newly copied Ornithopter could die and the card exiled by Kitesail would be gone for good?
Obviously a pretty niche case, but I wonder if it would end up working to get around the LTB trigger.
If you did this with something like Fiend Hunter then it will be exiled forever because there is a LTB trigger. Since the Fiend Hunter, as an Ornithopter, does not have said trigger, nothing is there to cause it to trigger to give the card back.
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610.3. Some one-shot effects cause an object to change zones “until” a specified event occurs. A second one-shot effect is created immediately after the specified event. This second one-shot effect returns the object to its previous zone.
Locating the 'quality' that makes something happen in Magic is usually a case of finding either some piece of text, some action, or some rule-changing effect. In this case, it seems that the monitoring of the "until" condition is not a continuous effect, and not a quality of a specific object's text that presently exists. It's just a behaviour of the kind of ability Freebooter has, according to this rule 610.3. That ability tells you to do two things, one right away, and one at another time.
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