It reads so much better, and has such better synergy with the embodiment of the fantasy game. It reflects a third dimension, of damage, and your conscious existence (psychological capacity) within the fantasy world. Anyone else agree?
I think it's silly that we call a deck of cards a "library." It should obviously be called "The Random Access Memory Of Your Planeswalker," or "TRAMOYP" for short. It's more flavorful when applied that way. Magic cards aren't books! Also, when you play MTG, it helps you feel like a planeswalker, like that old ad campaign.
Also, when are Instants going to be renamed Flashsorceries? Obvious move, WOTC.
maybe, but at the same time mill is universally recognized within the game already as meaning put the top card into the graveyard and traumatize... well... isn't.
if anything the word traumatize is more recognized in association with the card and believe it or not there would be a ton of casual players who would think the keyword does what the card does. no i don't have statistics on that, but if you want real proof just hang out on any casual magic facebook group and look at the rules questions that come up daily.
i dunno man, i've played a real long time and i find mill pretty elegant. yes, this does mean i was around when the term was first coined and will probably grasp it better but at the same time i've never been a part of a playgroup that doesn't understand what mill means. the word mill being only 4 letters long also freed up a ton of space in the text box.
so like, while i see the point about it not being as immersive into the fantasy side of the game i think this is one time where that's okay
I think it's silly that we call a deck of cards a "library." It should obviously be called "The Random Access Memory Of Your Planeswalker," or "TRAMOYP" for short. It's more flavorful when applied that way. Magic cards aren't books! Also, when you play MTG, it helps you feel like a planeswalker, like that old ad campaign.
Also, when are Instants going to be renamed Flashsorceries? Obvious move, WOTC.
This was to say that the pop-culture term wasn't adaptable as a game term. It's too bland and monotone.
The pop-culture term should have been left in isolation where it was.
I don't see you added anything intelligible against this argument.
maybe, but at the same time mill is universally recognized within the game already as meaning put the top card into the graveyard and traumatize... well... isn't.
if anything the word traumatize is more recognized in association with the card and believe it or not there would be a ton of casual players who would think the keyword does what the card does. no i don't have statistics on that, but if you want real proof just hang out on any casual magic facebook group and look at the rules questions that come up daily.
Here's a constellation from another post, where the subject was keywords that match card names and their effects. Based on this, they don't actually match up often, so there's no grounds that mill should have (or needed to) take on the pop-culture term instead of the adaptation I've suggested.
I also don't know of any keywords that don't directly mirror their previous card (or its effects). They typically do, and that's why it's really strange to name it that. I am all for grand exceptions, and I would definitely think to make one here for this,
These are all cards that share a name with a keyword
Out of the 19 pairs only 8 have a connection between their effects. This sends a clear message that when naming new abilities cards with the name can be ignored but it's nice if they overlap. So call your ability Intuition or anything that is easier to say and understand than Intravoyance
Short, elegant, ties into a card Millstone. And is the EXACT definition of what it does.
def: a device or machine for reducing something (as by crushing or grinding) to small pieces or particles
You are in the minority on this one. Sorry.
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Its what people were already calling the ability. No reason to try fight what has already established itself. People still call commander "EDH" after many years, and that's a term without actual gameplay impact.
The most important aspect for "mill" is that people use to call it that anyway, regardless of what the text on the card says.
People use to say "mill X cards" for all of magics history.
So calling it anything else is not helping anything.
And "mill" is short and quite clear, explaining what it means is not completely intuitive as you need to know what "mill" actually means, but then its totally fine.
I wondered for years why the text wasnt changed to mill , at some point they just caved in.
Its what people were already calling the ability. No reason to try fight what has already established itself. People still call commander "EDH" after many years, and that's a term without actual gameplay impact.
The most important aspect for "mill" is that people use to call it that anyway, regardless of what the text on the card says.
People use to say "mill X cards" for all of magics history.
So calling it anything else is not helping anything.
And "mill" is short and quite clear, explaining what it means is not completely intuitive as you need to know what "mill" actually means, but then its totally fine.
I wondered for years why the text wasnt changed to mill , at some point they just caved in.
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Short sweet and understood by most players. If not the concept seems simple enough ... at least as far as keywords. If anything the fact that it is evocative to most players who played quite long makes it long overdued.
Mill has also moved beyond magic, I talked to friends who play yugioh and pokemon and mill is used there too, its now a card game term for any deck like this.
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I feel that calling it |mill| was only natural, as we've pretty much called it that ever since millstone existed. When I first saw they keyworded it in M21, I mostly saw it just as them adopting the term we've been using forever
but I honestly can't help but feel like it should stayed in that isolation and not been keyworded like this.
It looks so tacky, and doesn't read well at all. There's no feel for fantasy, or correlation to the fantasy embodiment of the game.
It's so bland and monotone. If I were in development, I would have seriously pushed for something like Traumatized instead.
Example,
Target player gets traumatized 2.
and that player gets traumatized 10.
It reads so much better, and has such better synergy with the embodiment of the fantasy game. It reflects a third dimension, of damage, and your conscious existence (psychological capacity) within the fantasy world. Anyone else agree?
Also, when are Instants going to be renamed Flashsorceries? Obvious move, WOTC.
if anything the word traumatize is more recognized in association with the card and believe it or not there would be a ton of casual players who would think the keyword does what the card does. no i don't have statistics on that, but if you want real proof just hang out on any casual magic facebook group and look at the rules questions that come up daily.
i dunno man, i've played a real long time and i find mill pretty elegant. yes, this does mean i was around when the term was first coined and will probably grasp it better but at the same time i've never been a part of a playgroup that doesn't understand what mill means. the word mill being only 4 letters long also freed up a ton of space in the text box.
so like, while i see the point about it not being as immersive into the fantasy side of the game i think this is one time where that's okay
This was to say that the pop-culture term wasn't adaptable as a game term. It's too bland and monotone.
The pop-culture term should have been left in isolation where it was.
I don't see you added anything intelligible against this argument.
Here's a constellation from another post, where the subject was keywords that match card names and their effects. Based on this, they don't actually match up often, so there's no grounds that mill should have (or needed to) take on the pop-culture term instead of the adaptation I've suggested.
Mill is a fine name.
Short, elegant, ties into a card Millstone. And is the EXACT definition of what it does.
def: a device or machine for reducing something (as by crushing or grinding) to small pieces or particles
You are in the minority on this one. Sorry.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
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Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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People use to say "mill X cards" for all of magics history.
So calling it anything else is not helping anything.
And "mill" is short and quite clear, explaining what it means is not completely intuitive as you need to know what "mill" actually means, but then its totally fine.
I wondered for years why the text wasnt changed to mill , at some point they just caved in.
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Short sweet and understood by most players. If not the concept seems simple enough ... at least as far as keywords. If anything the fact that it is evocative to most players who played quite long makes it long overdued.
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Personally I prefer the verbs Shred or Grind.
It's just that "mill" can be a verb, like what you do to gain to turn it into flour.