So now that Gideon is finally at rest/peace in the afterlife, who do you think WotC will replace him with in regards to a white Planeswalker card that they will print frequently? I'm assuming whoever they choose will also replace him in the storyline as well.
Probably Teyo, I think. He has few strings attached to him story-wise because he's a new character.
Alternatively they could also put Ajani back into that spot. They've printed several mono white versions of him even past the points where he has been RW and GW.
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Alternatively they could also put Ajani back into that spot. They've printed several mono white versions of him even past the points where he has been RW and GW.
You're right; he was originally mono. However, I think he might be too consistently GW now, but it's far from impossible future Ajanis go back to being monowhite.
Who's to say they need too? Ajani can be mono-white if needed and they haven't cared about color balance for the gatewatch hugely. Though Teyo getting more spotlight would be nice, War showed how little mono-colored walkers we have and more are welcome.
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Gideon died away from Theros there is probably no way for him to return from the underworld. Also the Gatewatch is pretty white-aligned since Teferi, Ajani and Kaya all use white mana. So I don't think there will be any replacement for Gideon in the Gatewatch, in fact Kaya is kind of his replacement.
However Elspeth was shown with a golden mask in one of her new art so there is already a very strong hint that she will return from the dead.
I both like Teyo and the Wanderer and hope they will get a bit more spotlight but I don't think either of them would join the Gatewatch.
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Gideon will be back imo but the 3 mentioned above are the most obvious choices in the meantime
Look, I know I've been embracing "WAR as an event comic" more than anyone, but I somehow doubt WotC will just snap him back into existence. It'll be at least a punch.
But seriously, Maro and Doug have both been trying to keep death meaningful in Magic.
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Gideon will be back imo but the 3 mentioned above are the most obvious choices in the meantime
Look, I know I've been embracing "WAR as an event comic" more than anyone, but I somehow doubt WotC will just snap him back into existence. It'll be at least a punch.
But seriously, Maro and Doug have both been trying to keep death meaningful in Magic.
Im not saying its going to happen immediately, but when they return to Theros, I think he'll be brought back. Given the mythological undertones of the block and how the "underworld" could be manipulated in said mythos, seems like a slam dunk way to bring him back in a reasonable way. In regard to Maro, I dont trust him to do anything correctly.
Gideon will be back imo but the 3 mentioned above are the most obvious choices in the meantime
Look, I know I've been embracing "WAR as an event comic" more than anyone, but I somehow doubt WotC will just snap him back into existence. It'll be at least a punch.
But seriously, Maro and Doug have both been trying to keep death meaningful in Magic.
Im not saying its going to happen immediately, but when they return to Theros, I think he'll be brought back. Given the mythological undertones of the block and how the "underworld" could be manipulated in said mythos, seems like a slam dunk way to bring him back in a reasonable way. In regard to Maro, I dont trust him to do anything correctly.
He's not in Theros underworld. He died on Ravnica when the Immortal Sun was on.
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He's in Theros' underworld. Maybe the Immortal Sun doesn't work on spirits.
Personally, I'd like for there to lack a monowhite hero for a while. I find them kinda dull. I don't mind it in the future, I'd just like it for a while.
He's not in Theros underworld. He died on Ravnica when the Immortal Sun was on.
Is that canon? I saw a few posts in other threads saying he died on Theros.
Those post were likely made before the book was out, when the card Heartwarming Redemption was spoiled. It was clarified then and made even clearer in the Novel that this isn't an actual reunion in Theros' underworld but more of symbolism of Gideon moving on, like when people see heaven in near death experiences.
He's not in Theros underworld. He died on Ravnica when the Immortal Sun was on.
Is that canon? I saw a few posts in other threads saying he died on Theros.
Those post were likely made before the book was out, when the card Heartwarming Redemption was spoiled. It was clarified then and made even clearer in the Novel that this isn't an actual reunion in Theros' underworld but more of symbolism of Gideon moving on, like when people see heaven in near death experiences.
To add on, when Gerrard and Jeska died they also had heavenly and peaceful reunions with their lost loved ones. It just showing that Kytheon finally found redemption and peace in death that he never had in life and following the tend they have done for other characters. It feel much more like an ending to a character then a hook for a return like what happened with Elspeth.
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Anyone who thinks Heartwarming Reunion is anything like what Theros's underworld looks like, they really need to look back at that plane and see the huge differences there
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I am for Elspeth's return as the MAIN White Walker of WotC.
Teyo seems underdeveloped to be the Poster-boy of White
The Wanderer is a Wild Card that I can "Partially" see being it.
Ajani can be brought back to be that White Walker...
But seriously... WE need to replace Jace, Liliana and Chandra as the "Poster-Walkers" for their respective Colors.
I'd give it to Kasmina or Narset or Wizards will come up with someone for the Blue slot
Black... maybe Davriel or someone else.
Red... IDK
But seriously... WE need to replace Jace, Liliana and Chandra as the "Poster-Walkers" for their respective Colors.
I'd give it to Kasmina or Narset or Wizards will come up with someone for the Blue slot
Black... maybe Davriel or someone else.
Red... IDK
Yes, we need to replace the three most popular walkers. Preferably with relatively unknown characters. Otherwise how will we ever kill magic, or whatever else we were trying to accomplish
Anyone who thinks Heartwarming Reunion is anything like what Theros's underworld looks like, they really need to look back at that plane and see the huge differences there
Could be this is what Elysium looks like.
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Anyone who thinks Heartwarming Reunion is anything like what Theros's underworld looks like, they really need to look back at that plane and see the huge differences there
Could be this is what Elysium looks like.
Theros was never shown or stated to have an Elysium analog. And all the gods had defined rolls except the RG one. Erebos role was to bring the dead to the underworld. None of the other gods had a role to bring the dead to another realm...because there wasn’t one. It was either the Underworld or Nyx. And seeing how Heliod treats planeswalkers, he wouldn’t have Gideon brought to Nyx.
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The next Coreset needs a mono white Planeswalker. I think Ajani is the most likely for this spot. Just like he was the White Planeswalker for the last Core set. After that? Well Teyo is a possibility. Elspeth needs more story to actually return and The Wanderer needs more story to back her up as a character.
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Teyo
The Wanderer
In decreasing likelihood order.
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
Alternatively they could also put Ajani back into that spot. They've printed several mono white versions of him even past the points where he has been RW and GW.
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I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
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They should simply look for the 7 Dragonballs and wish Gideon back to life ;P
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However Elspeth was shown with a golden mask in one of her new art so there is already a very strong hint that she will return from the dead.
I both like Teyo and the Wanderer and hope they will get a bit more spotlight but I don't think either of them would join the Gatewatch.
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I think bringing back Elspeth is a good idea.
But I won't complain if they decide to use and expand the story on the new mono white planeswalkers.
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Look, I know I've been embracing "WAR as an event comic" more than anyone, but I somehow doubt WotC will just snap him back into existence. It'll be at least a punch.
But seriously, Maro and Doug have both been trying to keep death meaningful in Magic.
On phasing:
Okay, I wish*, but seriously, Elspeth.
* Then again, hell no, not as part of the god forsaken Gatewatch. Would just love Serra to be around, doing things, that’s all.
He's not in Theros underworld. He died on Ravnica when the Immortal Sun was on.
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Is that canon? I saw a few posts in other threads saying he died on Theros.
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Personally, I'd like for there to lack a monowhite hero for a while. I find them kinda dull. I don't mind it in the future, I'd just like it for a while.
To add on, when Gerrard and Jeska died they also had heavenly and peaceful reunions with their lost loved ones. It just showing that Kytheon finally found redemption and peace in death that he never had in life and following the tend they have done for other characters. It feel much more like an ending to a character then a hook for a return like what happened with Elspeth.
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Teyo seems underdeveloped to be the Poster-boy of White
The Wanderer is a Wild Card that I can "Partially" see being it.
Ajani can be brought back to be that White Walker...
But seriously... WE need to replace Jace, Liliana and Chandra as the "Poster-Walkers" for their respective Colors.
I'd give it to Kasmina or Narset or Wizards will come up with someone for the Blue slot
Black... maybe Davriel or someone else.
Red... IDK
Could be this is what Elysium looks like.
On phasing:
Theros was never shown or stated to have an Elysium analog. And all the gods had defined rolls except the RG one. Erebos role was to bring the dead to the underworld. None of the other gods had a role to bring the dead to another realm...because there wasn’t one. It was either the Underworld or Nyx. And seeing how Heliod treats planeswalkers, he wouldn’t have Gideon brought to Nyx.
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