Honestly, card quality not withstanding since we all know the cards are printed on crap, they really feel like miniature commander products. I think the 6+ casting cost cards in the decks are wastes of space in a 60 card constructed, but the lands and the reprints are good.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Had no interest. Seems like a giant waste of $ to me. From a "marketing" standpoint, each one should have had 1 shockland imo to help push the product and give them some worthwhile value
Bought a Boros for me and a Dimir for my son. Here are my thoughts.
Playability: Kinda dull and straightforward. Power level is akin to Intro Decks/P'walker Decks. Maybe a hair better than those.
Card Quality: The same as those in the Theme boosters. Better than what comes in a booster box for sure. Cardstock is still thin but the coating is nice and smooth/glossy and the color saturation is good, not washed out like in Booster boxes.
The storage box is nice (for cardboard) and will fit the 60 cards sleeved and tokens.
Guild dice are nice.
Guild pin is nice. Thought it would be cheap plastic. It is enameled pot-metal.
Sticker and guild note are okay, nothing special.
The basic lands are NICE!!! Love the guild symbols.
For 20 bucks plus tax this is not a bad deal. Not a raging bargain, but not trash either.
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Had no interest. Seems like a giant waste of $ to me. From a "marketing" standpoint, each one should have had 1 shockland imo to help push the product and give them some worthwhile value
We wont see that until the next challenger decks coming in spring. Right now I think Wizards is confident that people are still opening Guilds of Ravnica and don't feel it is the right time. I honestly like the feel of the pins and the spin down dice are pretty neat. I'm going to have to mod the pins, though. I can't believe they went through making a nice solid metal pin and used a standard C-clasp without the safety. Also holy crap do these cards have one heck of a chemical smell. I could totally see someone trying to mass open these need to have some kind of venting system present because opening even two of these at once was just evil incarnate.
The biggest wiff on these is not having a redemption code for the deck online in MTG Arena. If they did, it would be a great way to show that they are willing to think about the long road with the game and supporting other formats eventually, such as modern or commander.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I can't believe they went through making a nice solid metal pin and used a standard C-clasp without the safety.
Funny thing is my Boros pin was the standard C clasp but my son's Dimir pin had the safety clasp. Weird.
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
The biggest wiff on these is not having a redemption code for the deck online in MTG Arena. If they did, it would be a great way to show that they are willing to think about the long road with the game and supporting other formats eventually, such as modern or commander.
Redeeming the Guild kit decks on Arena would mean they'd have to implement the cards first, which then couldn't be played anyway, since they're not standard legal. Seems not worth it and feel bad more than anything else.
They could, however have included redemption codes for separate guild-specific standard legal precons. Would have been a nice way to provide some additional value while pulling more players to Arena. But well, maybe they expand on stuff like that once the open beta has ended.
I can't believe they went through making a nice solid metal pin and used a standard C-clasp without the safety.
Funny thing is my Boros pin was the standard C clasp but my son's Dimir pin had the safety clasp. Weird.
Really? I'm taking my pins to work and inspecting them today just to see if any of them had the safety clasp as well. I had opened all five kits and have the pins so maybe they did it with some and not others.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I can't believe they went through making a nice solid metal pin and used a standard C-clasp without the safety.
Funny thing is my Boros pin was the standard C clasp but my son's Dimir pin had the safety clasp. Weird.
Okay, so my golgari pin has a safety clasp while the others have a C Clasp. That's rather interesting, actually. I greatly prefer the safety pins simply because the weight and feel of the guild buttons is really good.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I think they are pretty neat, gonna try and get them all and give the sticker, pin and dice to my mom as gift (she love trinkets and such like that) and keep the deck as bases for new decks (most commander I'm feeling) or picked a part for other decks. Totally worth it IMO the reprints are pretty nice, the memorabilia is already going for ~$5 and the shiny alternate art promos help give it a few moe bucks.
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I can't believe they went through making a nice solid metal pin and used a standard C-clasp without the safety.
Funny thing is my Boros pin was the standard C clasp but my son's Dimir pin had the safety clasp. Weird.
Okay, so my golgari pin has a safety clasp while the others have a C Clasp. That's rather interesting, actually. I greatly prefer the safety pins simply because the weight and feel of the guild buttons is really good.
Yes the pins are done right, a nice touch.
They are also flying off my local WM shelf. Only 2 left yesterday (out of 10 total) when I looked and they have only been out for a week.
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
I got the selesnya one mainly for the alt art Trostani voja token and it looked fun. I enjoy it theycplay similarly to duel decks wich I really like. I'm hoping the ones for ravnica allegiance have teysa Orzohv scion as the alt art foil.
These feel like they were meant to support brawl as a format given the large number of singleton cards.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
These feel like they were meant to support brawl as a format given the large number of singleton cards.
the majority of which wouldn't actually be legal in brawl...
as a product, they're okay. i like the quality of the pins, the stickers are pretty decent quality too. the card choices are fairly solid, and some of the older cards got some decent new art, and the basics are really top notch. i hate the modern style of land, as in the type with the big mana symbol instead of the older formatting that spelled it out, but these... these ii'm actually going to use
my gripes with it are these:
the decks aren't very playable/cohesive and have very weak guild themes. then again, i've come to expect that in secondary products.
would i get multiple of the same one? no probably not. maybe the selesnya one because of glare/position, but they were worth picking up one of at least.
These feel like they were meant to support brawl as a format given the large number of singleton cards.
It been mentioned that the decks where designed to be a base for a commander deck if a player wanted, hence one reason they added the promo legendary creature (as well as the decks having a number of other legendary creatures).
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“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
These feel like they were meant to support brawl as a format given the large number of singleton cards.
It been mentioned that the decks where designed to be a base for a commander deck if a player wanted, hence one reason they added the promo legendary creature (as well as the decks having a number of other legendary creatures).
Yeah, I can totally see that with how they built them. Kind of funny how the only duplicate card in the entire deck is the guild mage.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Playability: Kinda dull and straightforward. Power level is akin to Intro Decks/P'walker Decks. Maybe a hair better than those.
Card Quality: The same as those in the Theme boosters. Better than what comes in a booster box for sure. Cardstock is still thin but the coating is nice and smooth/glossy and the color saturation is good, not washed out like in Booster boxes.
The storage box is nice (for cardboard) and will fit the 60 cards sleeved and tokens.
Guild dice are nice.
Guild pin is nice. Thought it would be cheap plastic. It is enameled pot-metal.
Sticker and guild note are okay, nothing special.
The basic lands are NICE!!! Love the guild symbols.
For 20 bucks plus tax this is not a bad deal. Not a raging bargain, but not trash either.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
We wont see that until the next challenger decks coming in spring. Right now I think Wizards is confident that people are still opening Guilds of Ravnica and don't feel it is the right time. I honestly like the feel of the pins and the spin down dice are pretty neat. I'm going to have to mod the pins, though. I can't believe they went through making a nice solid metal pin and used a standard C-clasp without the safety. Also holy crap do these cards have one heck of a chemical smell. I could totally see someone trying to mass open these need to have some kind of venting system present because opening even two of these at once was just evil incarnate.
The biggest wiff on these is not having a redemption code for the deck online in MTG Arena. If they did, it would be a great way to show that they are willing to think about the long road with the game and supporting other formats eventually, such as modern or commander.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Funny thing is my Boros pin was the standard C clasp but my son's Dimir pin had the safety clasp. Weird.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Redeeming the Guild kit decks on Arena would mean they'd have to implement the cards first, which then couldn't be played anyway, since they're not standard legal. Seems not worth it and feel bad more than anything else.
They could, however have included redemption codes for separate guild-specific standard legal precons. Would have been a nice way to provide some additional value while pulling more players to Arena. But well, maybe they expand on stuff like that once the open beta has ended.
W(W/U)U Ephara - Flash & Taxes W(W/U)U || B(B/G)G Meren - Circle of Life B(B/G)G
RGW Marath - Ever shifting Wilds RGW || (U/R)C(W/B) Breya - Artificial Dominion (U/R)C(W/B)
UBR Becket Brass - take what you can, give nothing back UBR
Really? I'm taking my pins to work and inspecting them today just to see if any of them had the safety clasp as well. I had opened all five kits and have the pins so maybe they did it with some and not others.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Okay, so my golgari pin has a safety clasp while the others have a C Clasp. That's rather interesting, actually. I greatly prefer the safety pins simply because the weight and feel of the guild buttons is really good.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Yes the pins are done right, a nice touch.
They are also flying off my local WM shelf. Only 2 left yesterday (out of 10 total) when I looked and they have only been out for a week.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
the majority of which wouldn't actually be legal in brawl...
as a product, they're okay. i like the quality of the pins, the stickers are pretty decent quality too. the card choices are fairly solid, and some of the older cards got some decent new art, and the basics are really top notch. i hate the modern style of land, as in the type with the big mana symbol instead of the older formatting that spelled it out, but these... these ii'm actually going to use
my gripes with it are these:
the decks aren't very playable/cohesive and have very weak guild themes. then again, i've come to expect that in secondary products.
would i get multiple of the same one? no probably not. maybe the selesnya one because of glare/position, but they were worth picking up one of at least.
It been mentioned that the decks where designed to be a base for a commander deck if a player wanted, hence one reason they added the promo legendary creature (as well as the decks having a number of other legendary creatures).
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Yeah, I can totally see that with how they built them. Kind of funny how the only duplicate card in the entire deck is the guild mage.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
if they can get a resupply they will keep one aside for me so that's nice.