I kind of hate variant commander like "kingdoms" and "sheriffs vs outlaws". Whenever the group wants to play one of these variants I play a deck that ignores the special rules and just combos out or whatever or I'll take out everyone that doesn't have a face card showing, etc. Nobody has specific decks for these types of things, so it usually ends up as a 2 hour stalemate otherwise. I just find it annoying to implement these special rules which actually don't really impact the game much when you just win without interaction anyways.
Have you ever tried talking to the other players about this?
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Have you ever tried talking to the other players about this?
Oh yeah, multiple times. I tried to even get them to build decks around the variants that were tailored to that type of gameplay, but people still play crap like Locust God and Zur or pillowforts.
I'm usually pretty chill in that I'm not a competitive player. If I win, great. If I lose, great. I'm usually just there to have fun and unwind after a long week at work. I think the most toxic thing I've ever done is, after nearly losing a match, I tossed a card on the field and said, "Phew" and breathed out heavily. It was a very good match. I just got lucky that he didn't have what he needed to beat me that turn.
That said, I did play against a girl who never read the rules on her cards. She knew the general rules of how to play but didn't have any idea of what her cards did. She was playing a very low CMC RDW deck, and honestly, she should have been tearing me apart. We were on good terms (not friends, but we knew each other from FNM), so in my curiosity to make sure the card she was playing was actually what I thought it was, I picked it up and looked at it. She immediately picked it up after I read it, found out it had a pump ability of some kind, and used it.
Whatever the case, she never read the cards. She'd play them as if they had nothing but flavor text, mana symbols, and power/toughness on them. After playing a few matches against her, I really wanted to go buy her a set of the "RTFC" card sleeves. I didn't buy them nor did I mention anything about needing to read her cards, but that's probably about as toxic as I've gotten.
I don't know if it qualifies, but I'm quite casual-spirited and do things that get most order-oriented players nervous, like playing lands in any orientation and tap them either way: Is not rare to get one of my opponents turning a land that's "upside down". In the same vein, I often miss triggers or forget untapping my stuff and my opponent ends up doing it for me, that kind of things never go well for me, but oh well
I was playing Jund at my LGS modern tournament 3 weeks ago. In round 3 I was playing against burn and won game 1 for having redundant amount of removal. During SB I suddenly realized that my deck was consistent because instead of switching to mainboard between round, what I did was taking out the cards I sided in last game but not putting back what I sided out. This gave me a 54-card deck, where cards like Bob and thoughtseize was taken out from last round. Kept quite about this instead of reporting it to the GS, not really proud of myself
This one is pretty new. During a win and in for a pptq top8 I started to loudly and rapidly flickering the card in my hand while my opponents was doing the math to decide what to do in his combat step.
Even thought I din't do anything "illegal" I do feel dirty for what I did.
Card "flicking" should be grounds for a forfeiture of the match. Of all the things I hate in Magic, that takes the cake.
It was my first event ever...30 or 40 ppl. Standard.
As i was playing the opponent said to his friend with a snicker "what a loser, i feel like i'm playing a draft deck"... way to make me feel inclusive to the MTG scene. Way more hurtful to a new player then anything i can think of.
It was my first event ever...30 or 40 ppl. Standard.
As i was playing the opponent said to his friend with a snicker "what a loser, i feel like i'm playing a draft deck"... way to make me feel inclusive to the MTG scene. Way more hurtful to a new player then anything i can think of.
Why was it so hurtful? You weren't injured, you didn't lose any money, and you have no relationship with this guy. This person is a stranger. Don't get me wrong, the dude was a dick, but why not just say to him straight up "hey I'm new at this, and you are being a jerk."
It was my first event ever...30 or 40 ppl. Standard.
As i was playing the opponent said to his friend with a snicker "what a loser, i feel like i'm playing a draft deck"... way to make me feel inclusive to the MTG scene. Way more hurtful to a new player then anything i can think of.
Why was it so hurtful? You weren't injured, you didn't lose any money, and you have no relationship with this guy. This person is a stranger. Don't get me wrong, the dude was a dick, but why not just say to him straight up "hey I'm new at this, and you are being a jerk."
Then add some bit about not having time to properly formulate your deck before the event because you were up all night with his mom.
2006 regionals. Im playing UB Fish, opponent is playing BWG Goodstuff. G1 opponent doesnt resolve a single spell thanks to 14 main counters in my deck. After i give a small chuckle and comment "thats rough". He kinda chuckles as well and agrees but is visibly annoyed. G2 he plays double Tribe Elder. Then makes the mistake of sacrificing both simultaneously I play Shadow of Doubt and full on belly laugh. Didnt mean anything by it but felt terrible nonetheless
2006 regionals. Im playing UB Fish, opponent is playing BWG Goodstuff. G1 opponent doesnt resolve a single spell thanks to 14 main counters in my deck. After i give a small chuckle and comment "thats rough". He kinda chuckles as well and agrees but is visibly annoyed. G2 he plays double Tribe Elder. Then makes the mistake of sacrificing both simultaneously I play Shadow of Doubt and full on belly laugh. Didnt mean anything by it but felt terrible nonetheless
Unless he explicitly responded to the ability of one on the stack with activating the other, he was proposing a shortcut where the second is activated after resolving the first. You shouldn't have been able to Shadow of Doubt both of them just because he physically picked up both cards together.
2006 regionals. Im playing UB Fish, opponent is playing BWG Goodstuff. G1 opponent doesnt resolve a single spell thanks to 14 main counters in my deck. After i give a small chuckle and comment "thats rough". He kinda chuckles as well and agrees but is visibly annoyed. G2 he plays double Tribe Elder. Then makes the mistake of sacrificing both simultaneously I play Shadow of Doubt and full on belly laugh. Didnt mean anything by it but felt terrible nonetheless
Unless he explicitly responded to the ability of one on the stack with activating the other, he was proposing a shortcut where the second is activated after resolving the first. You shouldn't have been able to Shadow of Doubt both of them just because he physically picked up both cards together.
priority was never passed to me. Judge determined that because of this, both triggers were considered to be on the stack
2006 regionals. Im playing UB Fish, opponent is playing BWG Goodstuff. G1 opponent doesnt resolve a single spell thanks to 14 main counters in my deck. After i give a small chuckle and comment "thats rough". He kinda chuckles as well and agrees but is visibly annoyed. G2 he plays double Tribe Elder. Then makes the mistake of sacrificing both simultaneously I play Shadow of Doubt and full on belly laugh. Didnt mean anything by it but felt terrible nonetheless
Unless he explicitly responded to the ability of one on the stack with activating the other, he was proposing a shortcut where the second is activated after resolving the first. You shouldn't have been able to Shadow of Doubt both of them just because he physically picked up both cards together.
priority was never passed to me. Judge determined that because of this, both triggers were considered to be on the stack
Also probably worth noting that back in the mid 2000s judges were pretty *****ty when it came to priority and triggers. The rules weren't great about how to treat them at competitive REL, though I'm not sure when it started to pick up as my last event was a PTQ in 06 before the prelim system was instituted.
During Innistrad block, played a draft at a local store, the guy opened a Snapcaster Mage, he said he want my Stromkirk Noble, I said ok, I can trade my Noble for your Snapcaster Mage.
Then after that draft, he never goes to that LGS again...
Feel so bad that later on when trading I never want to do this kid of trade again.
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Oh yeah, multiple times. I tried to even get them to build decks around the variants that were tailored to that type of gameplay, but people still play crap like Locust God and Zur or pillowforts.
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That said, I did play against a girl who never read the rules on her cards. She knew the general rules of how to play but didn't have any idea of what her cards did. She was playing a very low CMC RDW deck, and honestly, she should have been tearing me apart. We were on good terms (not friends, but we knew each other from FNM), so in my curiosity to make sure the card she was playing was actually what I thought it was, I picked it up and looked at it. She immediately picked it up after I read it, found out it had a pump ability of some kind, and used it.
Whatever the case, she never read the cards. She'd play them as if they had nothing but flavor text, mana symbols, and power/toughness on them. After playing a few matches against her, I really wanted to go buy her a set of the "RTFC" card sleeves. I didn't buy them nor did I mention anything about needing to read her cards, but that's probably about as toxic as I've gotten.
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Card "flicking" should be grounds for a forfeiture of the match. Of all the things I hate in Magic, that takes the cake.
It was my first event ever...30 or 40 ppl. Standard.
As i was playing the opponent said to his friend with a snicker "what a loser, i feel like i'm playing a draft deck"... way to make me feel inclusive to the MTG scene. Way more hurtful to a new player then anything i can think of.
Why was it so hurtful? You weren't injured, you didn't lose any money, and you have no relationship with this guy. This person is a stranger. Don't get me wrong, the dude was a dick, but why not just say to him straight up "hey I'm new at this, and you are being a jerk."
Then add some bit about not having time to properly formulate your deck before the event because you were up all night with his mom.
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Also probably worth noting that back in the mid 2000s judges were pretty *****ty when it came to priority and triggers. The rules weren't great about how to treat them at competitive REL, though I'm not sure when it started to pick up as my last event was a PTQ in 06 before the prelim system was instituted.
Then after that draft, he never goes to that LGS again...
Feel so bad that later on when trading I never want to do this kid of trade again.
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