The best thing the community and WOTC can do is ignore haters.
Unsporting Conduct is two entire warning categories (Minor and Major) at Competitive and Professional REL events. If you make comments like Jeremy's during such an event, you can and will get warnings, match losses, or even disqualified as appropriate.
That philosophy should help the community dictate response to such trolls. Ignoring them does not make them go away. Banning them does. I say this as someone who's been a regular on 4chan for well over 10 years now.
Once again, if this was happening, why didn't someone use archive.is? Are you saying that the people "in the know" on all of this were simply too inept to quickly take screencaps, or archive it? Because it sure as ***** sounds like everyone is saying this guy is fixated on her, it shouldn't be THAT hard to come across those tweets in a relatively timely manner and save it for evidence. This is why I approach this entire thing with "trust, but verify", not "listen and believe", because I don't want the egg on my face if it comes out that this isn't true.
Also, she made several comments about this thing, and one tweet--apparently since deleted, I'm asking some people if they happened to screencap it--said that Patreon support was appreciated. Out of the blue, mind you, not responding to people saying they were supporting her Patreon. Of course, now that her Twitter is protected, I can't see it to confirm things, but there you go.
This is why I approach this entire thing with "trust, but verify", not "listen and believe", because I don't want the egg on my face if it comes out that this isn't true.
if *what* isn't true.... ?
read my above reply to you. What exactly are you missing here? In that single video you watched there's like a five minute stretch of post-after-post Jeremy made which are unacceptable. And that's just one video! there's more!
Do you want that kind of deluded person as one of the most prominent online faces of our community? Because currently, that's what he is - and he's creating some sort of weird hate-based pseudo-political agenda right now, affecting how the world sees MTG. That's not cool. I live thousands of miles away from this guy, have nothing to do with him, but his hate and drama will affect how people see me as a person who plays Magic. is that ok? no!
1. The harassment was definitely not the sole factor in Christine Sprankle leaving the MTG Community. In fact, she has endured much, much worse. It's a problem with Cosplay in general. I went to a convention once, where there were cosplay women. I admired their work, complemented them, and for some others I even complemented them as to how beautiful they were as well. I know my comments weren't taken to a sexism, or male stereotypical creep. There is a way, and a socially polite method of simply giving those compliments and going about your business, or attempting to politely meet up in future social events. I met up with some of these women at an after party, I was told what I did was relieving for them. I truly felt that sad at that moment, that just basic dignity and politeness were something rare these women see.
This might sound a way, but I think that if I were bold enough to dive into cosplay, I'd go into it with the full expectation that people would treat me with disrespect as I can't think of many cultures that are kind to adults donning costumes outside of specific events or holidays.
I could be wrong though.
This statement bothered me since it was posted. Disrespect can be expected anywhere but it doesn't have to accepted at any time.
You may not have intended to, but your statement seems to imply that cosplayers are somehow lower on the proverbial pole than strip club dancers. Strippers garner more respect and often employ bouncers to remove patrons who are disrespectful. Who do the cosplayers have?
The best thing the community and WOTC can do is ignore haters.
Unsporting Conduct is two entire warning categories (Minor and Major) at Competitive and Professional REL events. If you make comments like Jeremy's during such an event, you can and will get warnings, match losses, or even disqualified as appropriate.
That philosophy should help the community dictate response to such trolls. Ignoring them does not make them go away. Banning them does. I say this as someone who's been a regular on 4chan for well over 10 years now.
My error, I meant the community should ignore and report them, mods and Wotc's job is to keep our environs safe from them. The ignore part from Wotc is not providing them with promotional mats to participate in the community.
You're spot on.
Also, if Jeremy is actually innocent, he would say "If I did hurt you Christine I'm sorry, and I apologize for any harassment from my fans or followers".
He isn't doing this. Jeremy is obviously dodging and deflecting from his edgelord / troll lord image.
1. The harassment was definitely not the sole factor in Christine Sprankle leaving the MTG Community. In fact, she has endured much, much worse. It's a problem with Cosplay in general. I went to a convention once, where there were cosplay women. I admired their work, complemented them, and for some others I even complemented them as to how beautiful they were as well. I know my comments weren't taken to a sexism, or male stereotypical creep. There is a way, and a socially polite method of simply giving those compliments and going about your business, or attempting to politely meet up in future social events. I met up with some of these women at an after party, I was told what I did was relieving for them. I truly felt that sad at that moment, that just basic dignity and politeness were something rare these women see.
This might sound a way, but I think that if I were bold enough to dive into cosplay, I'd go into it with the full expectation that people would treat me with disrespect as I can't think of many cultures that are kind to adults donning costumes outside of specific events or holidays.
I could be wrong though.
This statement bothered me since it was posted. Disrespect can be expected anywhere but it doesn't have to accepted at any time.
You may not have intended to, but your statement seems to imply that cosplayers are somehow lower on the proverbial pole than strip club dancers. Strippers garner more respect and often employ bouncers to remove patrons who are disrespectful. Who do the cosplayers have?
No I did not intend to, and I'm aware that disrespect can be expected anywhere.
Seriously Jeremy is a ***** talker and he wants attention above anything else.
Thats why people do these things and it actually provides him MONEY to have this attention.
Believe it or not, theres people that truly are encouraged by his ***** walking and that will not go away, no matter how much you want to.
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Its kinda weak how this thread becomes a rather one-sided echo chamber, but as was said before, this is a forum that has its own bias and its clearly not a good place to talk anything like this (but as the topic is "hot" right now, what will you do).
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Everything will be overblown and like anything discussed in public, people will get in some kind of militarismn side war about the topic.
In the meantime we have a nice community locally and theres nothing like harasment at all, unless you really want to make it an issue.
If you open a community up, it will always attract bad influences too.
Theres always 1 Troll among 100 new people.
It's not really about Jeremy at all. He got mentioned and has a profile that does him no favors thanks to the video, but the problems came from the people who consumed the twitter content and UnsleavedMedia content.
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During my brief time here I have dutifully avoided every forum except New Card Discussion and sometimes Speculation because, truthfully, I am here only for the spoilers. Also, I ignore MTG/YouTube personalities--I had never even heard of Jeremy or his content channel until I saw one of SaffronOlive's podcast titles mention "bullying in the Magic community" and an open letter from a significant number of professional players taking a stance against bullying. This piqued my curiosity--what could have happened? In order to find out I decided to watch a couple of videos clips and it took me only five minutes to see what/who the problem might be.
If your words or actions are prompting someone else to leave the game or the community, or if your words or actions stop from someone from joining the game or community, then you are the problem and you need to choose better words and/or actions.
Clearly, no community is perfect and no individual person is perfect. Every sufficiently large group of people, no matter how disparate the individuals in the group may be, will have its less-desirable members. Once those people identify themselves through their actions or words it is incumbent upon the rest of the community to advise that person to change themselves for the better. If that person chooses not to change then you burn that bridge, cut off contact, and wish them the best of luck.
It's not really about Jeremy at all. He got mentioned and has a profile that does him no favors thanks to the video, but the problems came from the people who consumed the twitter content and UnsleavedMedia content.
We can agree that this is a significant part of what's gone one. For sure. Where it's trickier is that Jeremy has acted as a rabble-rouser here, and continues (even this afternoon) to make over-dramatised content using language in a way that incites a mob. Just a glance at the comments section for his latest video shows this in full force. Casting a knowledgeable and critical eye over specifically what he says and how he says it reveals a very manipulative style, effective at rounding up people who are less able to analyse and break down language.
An easy example is that he's very quick to shove blame onto vague, nonspecific groups of people with catchy nicknames. This is a classic "dupe the ignorant" tactic, because without a deep understanding of the world at large, it's very difficult to counter what he's saying. If he's blaming some vague group that anyone could belong to, how could you disprove him? It sounds convincing and he adds emotional weight in his delivery, so people see it as "telling it like it is" rather than ehat's really going on. Scapegoatism (which is what this is) is dangerous, and this is what he's doing. Notwithstanding that he is currently at the sharp end of community backlash (also not great, as many have noted), he is strategically employing tactics like these in order to drive a mob and mislead people.
What's perhaps the most perplexing is that I don't think he knows he's doing this... It's just some kind of learnt behaviour. In more than a few ways, he reminds me of Donald Trump, perhaps the most visible enacter of this sort of nonsense rhetoric in the world today.
Even if WotC bans Jeremy from attending sanctioned events, they're not going to get him to stop making videos.
I didn't care for the guy before this came up, and I don't care for him any more now, but there's a limit to how effective action against him will be. But an upheld community pledge to not let this be considered acceptable goes a longer way.
Don't give harassers what they want. Attention. Words don't shame them, being ignored does.
Do you see the same thing I do? This is my problem with stuff like this, “Guys, don’t pay attention to the troll, but you need to see what this guy is saying! It’s off the wall!” Click count is over 9000!!!!!
I’m not trying to “call you out”, but the mods here should be ashamed. Not with the red text, but for even endorsing this discussion at this point. You are A.)Giving this Jeremy guy exactly what he wants, and B.)Fueling the exact type of reciprocal hate that you claim you condone. I mean, I’m genuinely curious as to how many hits this guy has received since this thread was opened. You want him to stop, take away his soapbox, don’t give him people to “preach” to. Don’t open threads discussing his wrong doings. Don’t link to his BS.
The MTG community as a whole is incredibly toxic. It was only a matter of time before something like this happened. When Magic finally dies it will be because of the unappeasable playerbase, nothing to do with WOTC.
[Quote]Don't give harassers what they want. Attention. Words don't shame them, being ignored does.
I know it sounds noble to "ignore" harassers, but there is a point where you actually need to do something/say something when someone goes too far.
Have you heard misogynist, hateful, and demeaning speech towards women? Things like "go back to the kitchen", or "go make me a sandwich"? These things are absolutely degrading. Ignoring this only perpetuate the hateful culture even more. How does ignoring sexist/hateful comments ever make them go away? You need to address it, call people out for their hateful character, and expose them for who they are. This kind of stuff only happens on the internet where people hide behind their anonymity. Expose them and see how well they fare.
He last logged in 10 days ago, but his last post is from May, when debate got shut down. I pretty much only look in here for spoilers now, and r/magictcg has replaced even that for the most part thanks to all the crazy twitch/curse integration nonsense.
Even if WotC bans Jeremy from attending sanctioned events, they're not going to get him to stop making videos.
100% this, as long as there are edgelords*, there will be an audience for his videos. I only play casual EDH in my basement so I hadn't heard of any of these people so Other than saying "yea, that's bad, don't do that" there's not much for me to say about the actual situation.
*sidenote -- Is edgelord just as much a pejorative as SJW? Just for the opposite side?
[Quote]Don't give harassers what they want. Attention. Words don't shame them, being ignored does.
I know it sounds noble to "ignore" harassers, but there is a point where you actually need to do something/say something when someone goes too far.
Have you heard misogynist, hateful, and demeaning speech towards women? Things like "go back to the kitchen", or "go make me a sandwich"? These things are absolutely degrading. Ignoring this only perpetuate the hateful culture even more. How does ignoring sexist/hateful comments ever make them go away? You need to address it, call people out for their hateful character, and expose them for who they are. This kind of stuff only happens on the internet where people hide behind their anonymity. Expose them and see how well they fare.
Pretty sure read the whole post applies here. Here's the more, "Those targeted need to report all harassers on their individual media so moderators can hopefully ban and restrict them. This is the slow but proper way to mitigate the emotional damage these angry wee hate monsters do. It's very sad that anyone has to endure death threats."
In the end, don't keep clicking on their trash or linking it. Mods and providers either censor idiots or they don't. Rabble rousers want you to click and comment and argue so they can troll you. This is the 'ignore' part. These days especially too many hatebears feel like it's ok for their voice to be heard.
*sidenote -- Is edgelord just as much a pejorative as SJW? Just for the opposite side?
Pretty sure Jeremy uses that term himself. He is a self-proclaimed edgelord and I don't think it is offensive to use his own words.
What's making this all murky is because we all think "this is just a game" and we can all walk away. For some it is, but for some it isn't. For Tolarian, Wedge, Christine, and others, it is their professional career. Can you imagine going to work and experiencing hateful and degrading things said to you? You would go to HR and file a complaint. We would all find this absolutely reasonable response in a work environment.
YOUTUBE is the work environment for these Youtubers. This includes other social media platforms. Is it completely reasonable to file a complaint or respond accordingly to prevent harassment?
Jeremy is trying to back peddle on his trolling entertainment and playing the victim card.
[Quote]Don't give harassers what they want. Attention. Words don't shame them, being ignored does.
I know it sounds noble to "ignore" harassers, but there is a point where you actually need to do something/say something when someone goes too far.
Have you heard misogynist, hateful, and demeaning speech towards women? Things like "go back to the kitchen", or "go make me a sandwich"? These things are absolutely degrading. Ignoring this only perpetuate the hateful culture even more. How does ignoring sexist/hateful comments ever make them go away? You need to address it, call people out for their hateful character, and expose them for who they are. This kind of stuff only happens on the internet where people hide behind their anonymity. Expose them and see how well they fare.
There is also an inherent problem with the attitude "don't acknowledge the harassers/trolls/abusers". Several, in fact.
First, ignoring them does not make them cease to exist. The hope has traditionally been that if you ignore a troll they will leave a given web forum or other community. But today's social media aren't like traditional web forums like this one-- they aren't actual communities but channels for communication. So the old strategem arguably doesn't work on social media. Moreover, it assumes a very specific motivation behind the trolling. If their motive is to get attention, then maybe it will work. But even forums like this have all sorts of moderation tools for those times it doesn't work. And if their motive is simply to make other people's lives hell, it absolutely won't work. They can take their abuse to a private place, and it will still be just as hurtful.
Second, if the troll is tapping into some larger phenomenon, in this case hostility towards women by gamers within and beyond the Magic community, guys like Jeremy will have an audience whether we acknowledge them or not. No social movement (no matter which one you name) ever managed to make a difference by ignoring a problem; in fact the tendency to ignore problems is a big problem in itself. Ignoring issues is equivalent to choosing inaction.
Thirdly, Jeremy is a Youtuber, and there is a Youtube specific reason you actually can't ignore him fully without also ignoring other good channels like Tolarian Community College, The Command Zone, The Magic Man Sam, and so on. Its the recommended videos. Youtube doesn't know that Jeremy's videos are hostile towards many of these people or that he is a professional troll. Being a largely automated system it just knows that he makes videos on the same general topic as them-- Magic: the Gathering. So every time I watch a Tolarian Community College video, in the Recommended Videos there is always something by Unsleeved Media or The Quartering sitting there being an eyesore. And in many cases, the very thumbnail of those videos contains misleading clickbait that often qualifies as harrasment in its own right-- in The Professor's video he rightly calls Jeremy out for the video whose thumbnail misleadingly accuses Mark Rosewater of being some kind of serial abuser. And The Professor rightly points out that someone who doesn't already know Jeremy's history of trolling, misrepresentation, and false claims of being a satirist will see this and get suckered in to watching, thus increasing his visibility and view counts. While we can choose not to watch Jeremy's content (because we have the benefit of knowing his history), we can't ignore the clickbait thumbnails he uses or the effects they have on people.
It really bothers me when people think things like this. All of our LGSs have been great places to play, with very few issues with other players. The vast majority of magic players are fine, normal people. There are bad apples in every community.
I don't think the MTG community is toxic per se, but the YT community is becoming a cesspool of weird people focused on trolling and click-baiting.
I feel like eventually Tolarian Academy will become Pokemon Center, Mana Source becomes Energy Source, The Command Zone becomes The Bench, and so on.
Nah, I doubt that. These guys have too much of a passion for Magic to completely abandon the game and their hobby just because of one toxic channel like Unsleeved Media. Besides, I haven't noticed anything to suggest that The Command Zone has any interest in Pokemon, and The Professor only has a few videos about the game.
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Unsporting Conduct is two entire warning categories (Minor and Major) at Competitive and Professional REL events. If you make comments like Jeremy's during such an event, you can and will get warnings, match losses, or even disqualified as appropriate.
That philosophy should help the community dictate response to such trolls. Ignoring them does not make them go away. Banning them does. I say this as someone who's been a regular on 4chan for well over 10 years now.
Also, she made several comments about this thing, and one tweet--apparently since deleted, I'm asking some people if they happened to screencap it--said that Patreon support was appreciated. Out of the blue, mind you, not responding to people saying they were supporting her Patreon. Of course, now that her Twitter is protected, I can't see it to confirm things, but there you go.
if *what* isn't true.... ?
read my above reply to you. What exactly are you missing here? In that single video you watched there's like a five minute stretch of post-after-post Jeremy made which are unacceptable. And that's just one video! there's more!
Do you want that kind of deluded person as one of the most prominent online faces of our community? Because currently, that's what he is - and he's creating some sort of weird hate-based pseudo-political agenda right now, affecting how the world sees MTG. That's not cool. I live thousands of miles away from this guy, have nothing to do with him, but his hate and drama will affect how people see me as a person who plays Magic. is that ok? no!
This statement bothered me since it was posted. Disrespect can be expected anywhere but it doesn't have to accepted at any time.
You may not have intended to, but your statement seems to imply that cosplayers are somehow lower on the proverbial pole than strip club dancers. Strippers garner more respect and often employ bouncers to remove patrons who are disrespectful. Who do the cosplayers have?
My error, I meant the community should ignore and report them, mods and Wotc's job is to keep our environs safe from them. The ignore part from Wotc is not providing them with promotional mats to participate in the community.
You're spot on.
He isn't doing this. Jeremy is obviously dodging and deflecting from his edgelord / troll lord image.
Real people can see right through him.
No I did not intend to, and I'm aware that disrespect can be expected anywhere.
Thats why people do these things and it actually provides him MONEY to have this attention.
Believe it or not, theres people that truly are encouraged by his ***** walking and that will not go away, no matter how much you want to.
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Its kinda weak how this thread becomes a rather one-sided echo chamber, but as was said before, this is a forum that has its own bias and its clearly not a good place to talk anything like this (but as the topic is "hot" right now, what will you do).
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Everything will be overblown and like anything discussed in public, people will get in some kind of militarismn side war about the topic.
In the meantime we have a nice community locally and theres nothing like harasment at all, unless you really want to make it an issue.
If you open a community up, it will always attract bad influences too.
Theres always 1 Troll among 100 new people.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
If your words or actions are prompting someone else to leave the game or the community, or if your words or actions stop from someone from joining the game or community, then you are the problem and you need to choose better words and/or actions.
Clearly, no community is perfect and no individual person is perfect. Every sufficiently large group of people, no matter how disparate the individuals in the group may be, will have its less-desirable members. Once those people identify themselves through their actions or words it is incumbent upon the rest of the community to advise that person to change themselves for the better. If that person chooses not to change then you burn that bridge, cut off contact, and wish them the best of luck.
We can agree that this is a significant part of what's gone one. For sure. Where it's trickier is that Jeremy has acted as a rabble-rouser here, and continues (even this afternoon) to make over-dramatised content using language in a way that incites a mob. Just a glance at the comments section for his latest video shows this in full force. Casting a knowledgeable and critical eye over specifically what he says and how he says it reveals a very manipulative style, effective at rounding up people who are less able to analyse and break down language.
An easy example is that he's very quick to shove blame onto vague, nonspecific groups of people with catchy nicknames. This is a classic "dupe the ignorant" tactic, because without a deep understanding of the world at large, it's very difficult to counter what he's saying. If he's blaming some vague group that anyone could belong to, how could you disprove him? It sounds convincing and he adds emotional weight in his delivery, so people see it as "telling it like it is" rather than ehat's really going on. Scapegoatism (which is what this is) is dangerous, and this is what he's doing. Notwithstanding that he is currently at the sharp end of community backlash (also not great, as many have noted), he is strategically employing tactics like these in order to drive a mob and mislead people.
What's perhaps the most perplexing is that I don't think he knows he's doing this... It's just some kind of learnt behaviour. In more than a few ways, he reminds me of Donald Trump, perhaps the most visible enacter of this sort of nonsense rhetoric in the world today.
But where are the Blinking_Spirits of yesteryear?
Even if WotC bans Jeremy from attending sanctioned events, they're not going to get him to stop making videos.
I didn't care for the guy before this came up, and I don't care for him any more now, but there's a limit to how effective action against him will be. But an upheld community pledge to not let this be considered acceptable goes a longer way.
Do you see the same thing I do? This is my problem with stuff like this, “Guys, don’t pay attention to the troll, but you need to see what this guy is saying! It’s off the wall!” Click count is over 9000!!!!!
I’m not trying to “call you out”, but the mods here should be ashamed. Not with the red text, but for even endorsing this discussion at this point. You are A.)Giving this Jeremy guy exactly what he wants, and B.)Fueling the exact type of reciprocal hate that you claim you condone. I mean, I’m genuinely curious as to how many hits this guy has received since this thread was opened. You want him to stop, take away his soapbox, don’t give him people to “preach” to. Don’t open threads discussing his wrong doings. Don’t link to his BS.
They either took it down, or the link was wrong.
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I know it sounds noble to "ignore" harassers, but there is a point where you actually need to do something/say something when someone goes too far.
Have you heard misogynist, hateful, and demeaning speech towards women? Things like "go back to the kitchen", or "go make me a sandwich"? These things are absolutely degrading. Ignoring this only perpetuate the hateful culture even more. How does ignoring sexist/hateful comments ever make them go away? You need to address it, call people out for their hateful character, and expose them for who they are. This kind of stuff only happens on the internet where people hide behind their anonymity. Expose them and see how well they fare.
He last logged in 10 days ago, but his last post is from May, when debate got shut down. I pretty much only look in here for spoilers now, and r/magictcg has replaced even that for the most part thanks to all the crazy twitch/curse integration nonsense.
100% this, as long as there are edgelords*, there will be an audience for his videos. I only play casual EDH in my basement so I hadn't heard of any of these people so Other than saying "yea, that's bad, don't do that" there's not much for me to say about the actual situation.
*sidenote -- Is edgelord just as much a pejorative as SJW? Just for the opposite side?
Pretty sure read the whole post applies here. Here's the more, "Those targeted need to report all harassers on their individual media so moderators can hopefully ban and restrict them. This is the slow but proper way to mitigate the emotional damage these angry wee hate monsters do. It's very sad that anyone has to endure death threats."
In the end, don't keep clicking on their trash or linking it. Mods and providers either censor idiots or they don't. Rabble rousers want you to click and comment and argue so they can troll you. This is the 'ignore' part. These days especially too many hatebears feel like it's ok for their voice to be heard.
Pretty sure Jeremy uses that term himself. He is a self-proclaimed edgelord and I don't think it is offensive to use his own words.
What's making this all murky is because we all think "this is just a game" and we can all walk away. For some it is, but for some it isn't. For Tolarian, Wedge, Christine, and others, it is their professional career. Can you imagine going to work and experiencing hateful and degrading things said to you? You would go to HR and file a complaint. We would all find this absolutely reasonable response in a work environment.
YOUTUBE is the work environment for these Youtubers. This includes other social media platforms. Is it completely reasonable to file a complaint or respond accordingly to prevent harassment?
Jeremy is trying to back peddle on his trolling entertainment and playing the victim card.
Social Justice Warrior started out the same way, I think. Could be wrong. Either way it was mostly curiosity.
There is also an inherent problem with the attitude "don't acknowledge the harassers/trolls/abusers". Several, in fact.
First, ignoring them does not make them cease to exist. The hope has traditionally been that if you ignore a troll they will leave a given web forum or other community. But today's social media aren't like traditional web forums like this one-- they aren't actual communities but channels for communication. So the old strategem arguably doesn't work on social media. Moreover, it assumes a very specific motivation behind the trolling. If their motive is to get attention, then maybe it will work. But even forums like this have all sorts of moderation tools for those times it doesn't work. And if their motive is simply to make other people's lives hell, it absolutely won't work. They can take their abuse to a private place, and it will still be just as hurtful.
Second, if the troll is tapping into some larger phenomenon, in this case hostility towards women by gamers within and beyond the Magic community, guys like Jeremy will have an audience whether we acknowledge them or not. No social movement (no matter which one you name) ever managed to make a difference by ignoring a problem; in fact the tendency to ignore problems is a big problem in itself. Ignoring issues is equivalent to choosing inaction.
Thirdly, Jeremy is a Youtuber, and there is a Youtube specific reason you actually can't ignore him fully without also ignoring other good channels like Tolarian Community College, The Command Zone, The Magic Man Sam, and so on. Its the recommended videos. Youtube doesn't know that Jeremy's videos are hostile towards many of these people or that he is a professional troll. Being a largely automated system it just knows that he makes videos on the same general topic as them-- Magic: the Gathering. So every time I watch a Tolarian Community College video, in the Recommended Videos there is always something by Unsleeved Media or The Quartering sitting there being an eyesore. And in many cases, the very thumbnail of those videos contains misleading clickbait that often qualifies as harrasment in its own right-- in The Professor's video he rightly calls Jeremy out for the video whose thumbnail misleadingly accuses Mark Rosewater of being some kind of serial abuser. And The Professor rightly points out that someone who doesn't already know Jeremy's history of trolling, misrepresentation, and false claims of being a satirist will see this and get suckered in to watching, thus increasing his visibility and view counts. While we can choose not to watch Jeremy's content (because we have the benefit of knowing his history), we can't ignore the clickbait thumbnails he uses or the effects they have on people.
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Phelddagrif - Zirilan
EDH
Thrasios+Bruse - Pang - Sasaya - Wydwen - Feather - Rona - Toshiro - Sylvia+Khorvath - Geth - QMarchesa - Firesong - Athreos - Arixmethes - Isperia - Etali - Silas+Sidar - Saskia - Virtus+Gorm - Kynaios - Naban - Aryel - Mizzix - Kazuul - Tymna+Kraum - Sidar+Tymna - Ayli - Gwendlyn - Phelddagrif 4 - Liliana - Kaervek - Phelddagrif 3 - Mairsil - Scarab - Child - Phenax - Shirei - Thada - Depala - Circu - Kytheon - GrenzoHR - Phelddagrif - Reyhan+Kraum - Toshiro - Varolz - Nin - Ojutai - Tasigur - Zedruu - Uril - Edric - Wort - Zurgo - Nahiri - Grenzo - Kozilek - Yisan - Ink-Treader - Yisan - Brago - Sidisi - Toshiro - Alexi - Sygg - Brimaz - Sek'Kuar - Marchesa - Vish Kal - Iroas - Phelddagrif - Ephara - Derevi - Glissa - Wanderer - Saffi - Melek - Xiahou Dun - Lazav - Lin Sivvi - Zirilan - Glissa
PDH - Drake - Graverobber - Izzet GM - Tallowisp - Symbiote Brawl - Feather - Ugin - Jace - Scarab - Angrath - Vraska - Kumena Oathbreaker - Wrenn&6
I feel like eventually Tolarian Academy will become Pokemon Center, Mana Source becomes Energy Source, The Command Zone becomes The Bench, and so on.
Nah, I doubt that. These guys have too much of a passion for Magic to completely abandon the game and their hobby just because of one toxic channel like Unsleeved Media. Besides, I haven't noticed anything to suggest that The Command Zone has any interest in Pokemon, and The Professor only has a few videos about the game.