If someone is flipping out over being told Good Game, then the problem isn't with the person who says "good game" but rather with the spoiled brat who is angry over a traditional phrase of good sportsmanship. Why shame and punish the person who is in the right, over the actions of the brat?
Or maybe their dog got hit by a car this morning and they're a little on edge. Read the situation, don't set ironclad rules and rage when people don't agree with them.
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Don't underestimate how someone may see something different than yourself. Someone may take "good game" as "the game we just played in was competitive." They may even misread your facial expressions. They may take this as some rubbing it in after the match. That would enflame many a people.
This might be true. But you can't expect people to change how they interact with people and walk on eggshells while playing magic because 1 in 50 people isn't capable of understanding basic social cues and common courtesy.
I just know that it doesn't really matter what we say. It's what someone believes we say.
I know this as a teacher. If I tell a kid that he's having trouble with something and he may need some extra help, then he may think I called him "stupid." I have to make sure that he understands that it's to get him up to par in just one particular category and has nothing to do with his own deficiency. My point is basically that a lot of it is in the delivery.
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If someone is flipping out over being told Good Game, then the problem isn't with the person who says "good game" but rather with the spoiled brat who is angry over a traditional phrase of good sportsmanship. Why shame and punish the person who is in the right, over the actions of the brat?
Or maybe their dog got hit by a car this morning and they're a little on edge. Read the situation, don't set ironclad rules and rage when people don't agree with them.
I don't care if their dog got hit by a car that morning, if you can't be pleasant at a fun event, then do not go. If you're going to be overly sensitive and/or exhibit bad sportsmanship/conduct for issues in your personal life, then stay home. The rest of us would just like to enjoy a game without having to worry about setting of a ticking time bomb.
Yes, if some one has social issues, and flips out in anger over losing in a card game, or people telling them good game, that is entirely on them and it's their responsibility to control their emotions.
MTG is an EXPERIENCE... ie entertainment. If you had a "good time" (which you better be having or you should probably look into spending your time elsewhere) then say good game and let your opponent know it was FUN. Now saying "bad game" would be insulting and show the lack of respect you had for your opponent or the time/interaction you had between each other.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
If someone is flipping out over being told Good Game, then the problem isn't with the person who says "good game" but rather with the spoiled brat who is angry over a traditional phrase of good sportsmanship. Why shame and punish the person who is in the right, over the actions of the brat?
I'm not shaming or punishing the person who said it. I'm just saying that people aren't saying "You should avoid saying GG" because you might offend someone. They're saying it because they've ended up in bad situations and don't want other people to either. I totally blame the people who are spoiled brats. I'm saying this isn't "PC gone awry" or "liberal participation trophies for everyone". It's sore losers ruining people's tournaments/FNMs.
I honestly say good game after the match. It's been drilled into my head after years of sports where you always do the walk by and say good game to the other team regardless of how bad of a crush it might have been. Heck, it's even quite common in video games with a chat and I'll respond gg even if we got crushed. If it's not a problem in sports or video games why is it such a big deal in magic? I've only had one person that got salty over me saying it, and I was informed later he was just a local jerk that showed up occasionally. I never say it condescendingly so maybe that's got something to do with it. If you are getting upset over someone saying something generic like good game after a game of magic I honestly think you need to cool off or take a breath.
Magic has variance and its most of the time fun , sometimes it isnt and at that point social skill makes you recognize that in your opponent.
In some games a "good game" is just the way to end a game, the loser says it first and the other player acknowledges that by his/her own "good game" ; done, especially in computer games.
In sports, its ment to show an additional form of respect to an opponent, especially as you might confront that opponent quite physical in some sports, so its a good means to end this confrontation with a friendly word and normally you dont really play against much worse opponents in sports, your ranking system should match you against at least half-decent opponents (if its a crush, it feels terrible anyway, but even then you can do whatever you can).
Magic is different because of the randomness aspect.
If someone loses just because of RNG, multiple terrible draws, then it wasnt really in their power to change that (you can still go for mulligan or not, but most of the time its the occasional 2 lander and you just dont draw the 3rd land for an eternity against all odds).
If a message becomes sarcastic it can be rude. A "good game" that is ment truly in good intention will most likely never be a problem. However, if it just becomes a phrase it might hit some people.
And i know that. If i really badly lose to something that in my perspective was horrendously unlikely (like last time the "tripple" Quarantine Field blowout crap (i mean cmon 3x Quarantine Field, what the heck ... ) , i get salty for some minutes at least.
Games like this happen not often and its even more rare that an opponent will just rush ahead and "gg" you right away.
The RNG factor makes for some salty games, thats just what Magic is about, some accept it and dont care, others do care.
The only real solution is to see if an opponent is salty, and then avoid all interaction at that point ; anything else is just poking in the hornet nest and expecting fluffy feedback.
Being angry about a game or even worse is a completly different story and has no place in Magic.
Personally, I see the term as just "basic courtesy", in which it has, in a way, "lost" its literal meaning (The same way you still say "Good Day" to someone whether he or she had a good day or not).
It'll be good if everyone saw it that way as well (along with other courtesies like "Thanks for the Game" and "Good Luck Next Round"), but given that it isn't as ingrained in TCG culture as it is in other sports/gaming cultures, I'm not entirely surprised people are still offended by the term's "unintended impoliteness", derived from its literal meaning.
Magic (and some other games) is still highly subjective to "luck", which influences results drastically. Bluntly put, in a sense, Magic has an aspect closer to luck-based games like Gambling Games in addition to the strategy aspect. We hear "Good Games" with games with minimal "luck" factors - like sports, chess and MOBAs. Likewise, I don't think we hear much of those in other Luck-Based games. Magic sits at some funny point between the two, honestly speaking. Remember, the "luck" factor is always still present regardless of skill (in deckbuilding or playing) reducing it - even the most refined decks and players face more random chance in Magic than in most other sports/games.
I'm just establishing the reasons why people could get offended by the term. Like I mentioned earlier, in an ideal scenario, we already understand the luck aspect of the game like we do with the luck aspect of our lives (not everyday is a happy day for us) and so, we won't get offended by the courtesies of "Good Game/Good Day" - but ultimately, the term may not be as ingrained as well as the ideal world scenario.
Anyway, I usually find "Thanks for the Game" a "safer" option (even if luck factors didn't make it much of a game, "Thanks" usually helps cover things better).
I prefer saying "Thank you" instead of "good game", especially after winning against mana-screw or anything like that. I think the situation in MTG is different from the situation in Sports. I play Rugby, and even after being slaughtered by the other team I don't mind hearing "good game" from the other side. The reason for this is that on the pitch we've had the actual opportunity to play the game to the best of our abilities. Even if i wasn't enough to win, we still hurt the other team and they can still feel it.
In MTG this just isn't the case. There are some situations where it's hardly a "game" at all, and saying "good game" means that you're either thoughtlessly parroting a phrase you've heard somewhere (in which case it's unnecessary) or that you're trying to provoke your opponent.
I sometimes say "This is a good game!" in the midst of an actual round and when both parties can agree with that statement.
if i won, i try to ask what changes they might make to help with blahblah. then I might try compliment on a neat tactic they had in their deck, and say I'm glad x and y didn't get played. but if they're bad attitude, not just butthurt, "ohhhkay,, maybe we'll seeya next week"
my decks are not t1 or even t2, so usually i recv the GG and/or handshake after a match
I don't hear self righteousness when you say good game. I hear self righteousness when you say others should accept "good game" regardless of circumstances or how you deliver the line. I personally don't tilt when people say anything to me but I can definitely see it in others and I can respect that. I have no issue saying "good luck in the next round" as opposed to good game. I don't see how my way is any less sportsman-like than yours, while also dodging around this tricky issue. But you want others to accept your way or be declared dicks. Ok.
Scenario: I beat you. Top 8 win and in. I point at you and say to my pal next to me, "I beat this guy 2-0 and I kept a no lander and I mulled to 4. His deck must suck or he does lolz" Then I turn to you, "Good game. Shake my hand." Then I laugh and leave. You're telling me that you'll leave that exchange feeling better because at least I said "good game" to you, like a true sportsman?
The words aren't important. The feelings behind them are. Shining people on with "good game" is a common thing. The words can be innocuous, but you can't tell me that people playing football or soccer or baseball might not start a brawl over a couple of innocent words dripping in sarcasm or derision. At least Magic players don't go around throwing punches for the most part.
That never happens though, or atleast very rarely does. Because when most people say good game, they understand it is simple basic courtesy, and doesn't mean any more than it means. Flipping out over someone telling you "good game" is the same as flipping out after some one says "hello" to you. Magic players instead of throwing punches tend to throw little passive aggressive bratty tantrums.
Many worship the group the pros walk on, and pros telling these people that "good game" is bad is only going to add to the flames lol.
There is very little "self righteousness" involved with the phrase "good game". If you are assuming self righteousness when you hear those words, then the problem is you, homie.
I always stick to the same plan because it works: win or lose, bad game or not, I offer the handshake once its over. The handshake is a "thanks for sitting down for a match with me" and you'd have to be a real unpleasant jerk during our games for me to not offer the handshake. If the games were real, thoughtful games, I'll say so and if they weren't, I wish them better luck in future rounds.
I still get people angrily telling me that our intense 3 close games were a blowout or that they should have won and refusing my hand, but thats life. I'll try once to convince them to show some respect to their opponent and after that I'll just get up and leave.
Three's only one thing that offends me... and that's "nice top deck". Every time that's been uttered by someone to me - it was when they felt they were about to win the game, and I either drew or they suspected I drew the answer (but had it in my hand) that wins the game for me. I almost always feel "Nice top deck" is a fake compliment; even though there's no way for me to know if it is or not.
I hear self righteousness when you say others should accept "good game" regardless of circumstances or how you deliver the line.
This is exactly the case. I don't understand someone being offended by "good game" and I am not personally offended by it. But to say there's something wrong with someone who is - is placing yourself in a position of higher righteousness than the person who is offended.
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This whole topic rubs me the wrong way. People are genuinely being offended by their opponent offering a sincere "good game"? Mind boggling. To the people saying it depends on the match and that they say the more neutral "good luck in your next match" what's stopping someone from taking that sarcastically as in "man I just destroyed you, good luck in your next match you're going to need it after that womping you just received."
I get that people tilt but this just seems silly all around. It's like the people on MTGO that flame after losing saying "play a real deck" or "Nice netdeck" or some other nonsense after losing. It's unreasonable and we cannot cater to these individuals. Do not condemn sportsmanship because some people are salty.
Be polite, recognize if your opponent is tilting, and don't be offended if someone is showing sportsmanship. Now if someone is generally abusing the handshake exchange to belittle or mock the opponent then report them to the LGS owner or to the MTGO ORCS. We don't need people like that playing the game.
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I say good game and offer the hand shake, whether I won or lost, whether I got mana screwed/flooded or my opponent did, whether I or my opponent is salty, because I'm not a petulant child and I'm not going to go around walking on eggshells on the off chance that the person I'm playing is a petulant child. If you are so think-skinned that someone telling you "good game" AFTER A GAME THAT DOESN'T MATTER, AT ALL, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS ruins your day, you need to find a different hobby or seriously re-evaluate your life.
How do these people survive real life, where bad things actually happen that matter? Do they go through life flipping out whenever they are slightly criticized? Do they rage at the world when random chance makes them miss their bus, or their car gets a flat tire, or the thing they wanted to buy is sold out, etc, etc? Seriously, I don't get it. People need to chill the eff out about a card game.
Edit - think back to elementary school. When you played games in gym class, did you all line up and do the "good game" high five, even if the score was 10-0? If so, you need to ask yourself why 7-year-olds can handle this, but you apparently can't.
]Or maybe their dog got hit by a car this morning and they're a little on edge. Read the situation, don't set ironclad rules and rage when people don't agree with them.
If something so bad happened to you that it's going to make you be rude to other people for no reason, maybe don't go play magic that day? It's not hard.
Also, don't be ridiculous. No one getting mad about someone saying good game had their dog get run over that morning. Talking about absurdly unlikely situations isn't adding anything to the discussion.
I say good game and offer the hand shake, whether I won or lost, whether I got mana screwed/flooded or my opponent did, whether I or my opponent is salty, because I'm not a petulant child and I'm not going to go around walking on eggshells on the off chance that the person I'm playing is a petulant child. If you are so think-skinned that someone telling you "good game" AFTER A GAME THAT DOESN'T MATTER, AT ALL, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS ruins your day, you need to find a different hobby or seriously re-evaluate your life.
How do these people survive real life, where bad things actually happen that matter? Do they go through life flipping out whenever they are slightly criticized? Do they rage at the world when random chance makes them miss their bus, or their car gets a flat tire, or the thing they wanted to buy is sold out, etc, etc? Seriously, I don't get it. People need to chill the eff out about a card game.
Edit - think back to elementary school. When you played games in gym class, did you all line up and do the "good game" high five, even if the score was 10-0? If so, you need to ask yourself why 7-year-olds can handle this, but you apparently can't.
Why do you expect all people to evaluate a situation/scenario the same way?
If something so bad happened to you that it's going to make you be rude to other people for no reason, maybe don't go play magic that day? It's not hard.
It's not hard to adjust the words you say either. Saying "Thanks for playing. Good luck the rest of the way." vs. "Good game" - doesn't require a whole lot more effort.
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Edit - think back to elementary school. When you played games in gym class, did you all line up and do the "good game" high five, even if the score was 10-0? If so, you need to ask yourself why 7-year-olds can handle this, but you apparently can't.
I was never forced to do that in school. And with modern times - I'm going to guess most schools don't have a win/lose score anymore in gym.
In little league and Babe Ruth leagues it was expected for us to slap hands and say good game. But take all those same people and put us out on the playground without coaches and umpires who expect us to say "good game" after the game - and it would never happen. Not to mention - team sports vs. 1v1 sports have totally different expectations and ego involvement.
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Why do you expect all people to evaluate a situation/scenario the same way?
Because I expect people to be polite or expect to be called out for being a rude ********. This argument is like saying that people shouldn't say "good morning" to other people, because that person might not be having a good morning and how dare you be so insensitive and rude to not consider that fact. It's idiotic. I have no problem with people evaluating scenarios in different ways, but when the "scenario" is a simple polite turn of phrase, I'm allowed to say that the people who go out of their way to find offense at it are huge crybabies. When someone's evaluation of a scenario reaches such a dumb conclusion, it's perfectly reasonable to call that evaluation into question.
Again, ask yourself - why can elementary students handle saying good game after any sporting event, but adult magic players seemingly can't. The only nice side about arguments like this is that the people opposed to this appear to be a very vocal, very tiny minority. I've been saying good game for literally years, and I've never been insulted when someone else said it or had someone get mad at me, so it's thankfully not a real life issue for most of us.
If something so bad happened to you that it's going to make you be rude to other people for no reason, maybe don't go play magic that day? It's not hard.
It's not hard to adjust the words you say either. Saying "Thanks for playing. Good luck the rest of the way." vs. "Good game" - doesn't require a whole lot more effort.
But the quite I was responding to was saying that I shouldn't say good game if someone's dog died that day, which I'm apparently supposed to be on the lookout for and not say "good game" to because apparently that would make them sadder about their dog dying. Which, first of all, wat? And secondly, since I have no idea what would make this fictional dog-just-died-better-go-play-magic-even-though-I'm-completely-devestated opponent I'm apparently playing sadder, it would be pretty hard to figure out what to say. I guess I could just always play all of my matches in complete silence in case my opponent had a pet recently die, lost a bidding war on a house, had their car break down, broke up with their significant other, got in a fight with a friend, got rejected for space camp, found out that wal-mart was not gonna carry their favorite brand of mac and cheese, had someone be mean to them at work, oil prices went up, the stock market went down, or one of a million other things that might have upset someone.
But, no, I think I'll just continue to go through life not worrying that some random empty phrase that we've all been saying for decades that has no alternative meaning might offend some overly-sensitive ass.
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I just know that it doesn't really matter what we say. It's what someone believes we say.
I know this as a teacher. If I tell a kid that he's having trouble with something and he may need some extra help, then he may think I called him "stupid." I have to make sure that he understands that it's to get him up to par in just one particular category and has nothing to do with his own deficiency. My point is basically that a lot of it is in the delivery.
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MTG is an EXPERIENCE... ie entertainment. If you had a "good time" (which you better be having or you should probably look into spending your time elsewhere) then say good game and let your opponent know it was FUN. Now saying "bad game" would be insulting and show the lack of respect you had for your opponent or the time/interaction you had between each other.
I'm not shaming or punishing the person who said it. I'm just saying that people aren't saying "You should avoid saying GG" because you might offend someone. They're saying it because they've ended up in bad situations and don't want other people to either. I totally blame the people who are spoiled brats. I'm saying this isn't "PC gone awry" or "liberal participation trophies for everyone". It's sore losers ruining people's tournaments/FNMs.
But how far do you go with that? Are there any other things that make something not a good game?
In some games a "good game" is just the way to end a game, the loser says it first and the other player acknowledges that by his/her own "good game" ; done, especially in computer games.
In sports, its ment to show an additional form of respect to an opponent, especially as you might confront that opponent quite physical in some sports, so its a good means to end this confrontation with a friendly word and normally you dont really play against much worse opponents in sports, your ranking system should match you against at least half-decent opponents (if its a crush, it feels terrible anyway, but even then you can do whatever you can).
Magic is different because of the randomness aspect.
If someone loses just because of RNG, multiple terrible draws, then it wasnt really in their power to change that (you can still go for mulligan or not, but most of the time its the occasional 2 lander and you just dont draw the 3rd land for an eternity against all odds).
If a message becomes sarcastic it can be rude. A "good game" that is ment truly in good intention will most likely never be a problem. However, if it just becomes a phrase it might hit some people.
And i know that. If i really badly lose to something that in my perspective was horrendously unlikely (like last time the "tripple" Quarantine Field blowout crap (i mean cmon 3x Quarantine Field, what the heck ... ) , i get salty for some minutes at least.
Games like this happen not often and its even more rare that an opponent will just rush ahead and "gg" you right away.
The RNG factor makes for some salty games, thats just what Magic is about, some accept it and dont care, others do care.
The only real solution is to see if an opponent is salty, and then avoid all interaction at that point ; anything else is just poking in the hornet nest and expecting fluffy feedback.
Being angry about a game or even worse is a completly different story and has no place in Magic.
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It'll be good if everyone saw it that way as well (along with other courtesies like "Thanks for the Game" and "Good Luck Next Round"), but given that it isn't as ingrained in TCG culture as it is in other sports/gaming cultures, I'm not entirely surprised people are still offended by the term's "unintended impoliteness", derived from its literal meaning.
Magic (and some other games) is still highly subjective to "luck", which influences results drastically. Bluntly put, in a sense, Magic has an aspect closer to luck-based games like Gambling Games in addition to the strategy aspect. We hear "Good Games" with games with minimal "luck" factors - like sports, chess and MOBAs. Likewise, I don't think we hear much of those in other Luck-Based games. Magic sits at some funny point between the two, honestly speaking. Remember, the "luck" factor is always still present regardless of skill (in deckbuilding or playing) reducing it - even the most refined decks and players face more random chance in Magic than in most other sports/games.
I'm just establishing the reasons why people could get offended by the term. Like I mentioned earlier, in an ideal scenario, we already understand the luck aspect of the game like we do with the luck aspect of our lives (not everyday is a happy day for us) and so, we won't get offended by the courtesies of "Good Game/Good Day" - but ultimately, the term may not be as ingrained as well as the ideal world scenario.
Anyway, I usually find "Thanks for the Game" a "safer" option (even if luck factors didn't make it much of a game, "Thanks" usually helps cover things better).
In MTG this just isn't the case. There are some situations where it's hardly a "game" at all, and saying "good game" means that you're either thoughtlessly parroting a phrase you've heard somewhere (in which case it's unnecessary) or that you're trying to provoke your opponent.
I sometimes say "This is a good game!" in the midst of an actual round and when both parties can agree with that statement.
and just walk away, leave them beaten and confused
my decks are not t1 or even t2, so usually i recv the GG and/or handshake after a match
Scenario: I beat you. Top 8 win and in. I point at you and say to my pal next to me, "I beat this guy 2-0 and I kept a no lander and I mulled to 4. His deck must suck or he does lolz" Then I turn to you, "Good game. Shake my hand." Then I laugh and leave. You're telling me that you'll leave that exchange feeling better because at least I said "good game" to you, like a true sportsman?
I still get people angrily telling me that our intense 3 close games were a blowout or that they should have won and refusing my hand, but thats life. I'll try once to convince them to show some respect to their opponent and after that I'll just get up and leave.
This is exactly the case. I don't understand someone being offended by "good game" and I am not personally offended by it. But to say there's something wrong with someone who is - is placing yourself in a position of higher righteousness than the person who is offended.
I get that people tilt but this just seems silly all around. It's like the people on MTGO that flame after losing saying "play a real deck" or "Nice netdeck" or some other nonsense after losing. It's unreasonable and we cannot cater to these individuals. Do not condemn sportsmanship because some people are salty.
Be polite, recognize if your opponent is tilting, and don't be offended if someone is showing sportsmanship. Now if someone is generally abusing the handshake exchange to belittle or mock the opponent then report them to the LGS owner or to the MTGO ORCS. We don't need people like that playing the game.
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How do these people survive real life, where bad things actually happen that matter? Do they go through life flipping out whenever they are slightly criticized? Do they rage at the world when random chance makes them miss their bus, or their car gets a flat tire, or the thing they wanted to buy is sold out, etc, etc? Seriously, I don't get it. People need to chill the eff out about a card game.
Edit - think back to elementary school. When you played games in gym class, did you all line up and do the "good game" high five, even if the score was 10-0? If so, you need to ask yourself why 7-year-olds can handle this, but you apparently can't.
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If something so bad happened to you that it's going to make you be rude to other people for no reason, maybe don't go play magic that day? It's not hard.
Also, don't be ridiculous. No one getting mad about someone saying good game had their dog get run over that morning. Talking about absurdly unlikely situations isn't adding anything to the discussion.
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It's not hard to adjust the words you say either. Saying "Thanks for playing. Good luck the rest of the way." vs. "Good game" - doesn't require a whole lot more effort.
I was never forced to do that in school. And with modern times - I'm going to guess most schools don't have a win/lose score anymore in gym.
In little league and Babe Ruth leagues it was expected for us to slap hands and say good game. But take all those same people and put us out on the playground without coaches and umpires who expect us to say "good game" after the game - and it would never happen. Not to mention - team sports vs. 1v1 sports have totally different expectations and ego involvement.
Because I expect people to be polite or expect to be called out for being a rude ********. This argument is like saying that people shouldn't say "good morning" to other people, because that person might not be having a good morning and how dare you be so insensitive and rude to not consider that fact. It's idiotic. I have no problem with people evaluating scenarios in different ways, but when the "scenario" is a simple polite turn of phrase, I'm allowed to say that the people who go out of their way to find offense at it are huge crybabies. When someone's evaluation of a scenario reaches such a dumb conclusion, it's perfectly reasonable to call that evaluation into question.
Again, ask yourself - why can elementary students handle saying good game after any sporting event, but adult magic players seemingly can't. The only nice side about arguments like this is that the people opposed to this appear to be a very vocal, very tiny minority. I've been saying good game for literally years, and I've never been insulted when someone else said it or had someone get mad at me, so it's thankfully not a real life issue for most of us.
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But the quite I was responding to was saying that I shouldn't say good game if someone's dog died that day, which I'm apparently supposed to be on the lookout for and not say "good game" to because apparently that would make them sadder about their dog dying. Which, first of all, wat? And secondly, since I have no idea what would make this fictional dog-just-died-better-go-play-magic-even-though-I'm-completely-devestated opponent I'm apparently playing sadder, it would be pretty hard to figure out what to say. I guess I could just always play all of my matches in complete silence in case my opponent had a pet recently die, lost a bidding war on a house, had their car break down, broke up with their significant other, got in a fight with a friend, got rejected for space camp, found out that wal-mart was not gonna carry their favorite brand of mac and cheese, had someone be mean to them at work, oil prices went up, the stock market went down, or one of a million other things that might have upset someone.
But, no, I think I'll just continue to go through life not worrying that some random empty phrase that we've all been saying for decades that has no alternative meaning might offend some overly-sensitive ass.
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