MTG Salvation

So i have a lot of modern pool and decks, last week i build Grixis Delver by getting 2 tasigurs, now im playing Grixis Twin and its fine

I need a few cards to build blue moon and uw tron but i feel i want to play Tarmogoyf/Dark Confidant decks

I always wanted to have dark confidants so im nice whit it, but tarmogoyf prices its madness, i need 4x tarmogoyf, 4x dark confidant, 4x abrupt decay and 3x liliana of the veil to build the deck so im thinking its a lot of money and dont know if its worth

im making numbers 140€ darks, 60€ abrupts, 500€ tarmo and 200€ lilianas ... 900€

its worht it?

I assume this is Modern? Because if so, Bob has fallen out of favour (though he's still perfectly usable) because of the prevalence of 4-6 mana spells in value decks (flipping Rhino is only a net -1 life, but flipping Tasigur sucks). That said, if you want to get into Tarmogoyf, you might as well pick them up while the picking's good. Whether it's worth it in a fun sense, it depends. If you like grinding your opponents down with incremental value, then Jund/Junk type decks are for you. If you find that kind of play style boring, I'd advise against it (though Goyf is potentially a good pickup anyway).

BGx has been a format pillar for a long time, it just differs in flavor from season to season. It's a reasonably stable deck, and tier one at that. I would say the deck is worth it, but you have to ask is it worth it to you? I would really suck for buy 900 bucks worth of cards just to not like the play style.

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I assume this is Modern? Because if so, Bob has fallen out of favour (though he's still perfectly usable) because of the prevalence of 4-6 mana spells in value decks (flipping Rhino is only a net -1 life, but flipping Tasigur sucks). That said, if you want to get into Tarmogoyf, you might as well pick them up while the picking's good. Whether it's worth it in a fun sense, it depends. If you like grinding your opponents down with incremental value, then Jund/Junk type decks are for you. If you find that kind of play style boring, I'd advise against it (though Goyf is potentially a good pickup anyway).

Reid Duke has been recently putting some Jund videos on ChannelFireball (which I do recommend) and he plays jund for 2 main reasons - lightning bolt (of course) and because dark confidant is good in it (yes there is a small chance to flip a tasigur, but overall it is cheaper than abzan and thus bob works better in it)

EDIT: here are links to the videos: http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/channel-reid-modern-jund-2/, http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/channel-reid-modern-jund-2-3/

Yeah, Dark Confidant is no longer is most peoples' Junk Midrange. However, Jund can afford to play it, as they have only two 4 drops in the deck. They play the whole play set.

I don't think that it's worth paying those prices for the cards, but if you want to have more options and can afford it, then it is worth it to you. You have to ask - is it worth it to me? The decks are very good, but many games can turn into a grind fest. Plenty of matchups are 50/50 and your own good play should get you over the hump in many of those. Anyway, you should be used to that with the Twin, but it is even more so with these decks.

Depends if you like playing that style of deck to be honest.
They are obviously Tier 1 decks and format pillars at that. They are going nowhere and the cards are so expensive because they are simply some of the best ones ever printed so the "investment" is definitely safe.
They are very interactive decks that play with individually powerful cards and there is no single hate card that stops you completely unlike many other decks that can just fold to certain sideboard cards like Stony Silence vs Affinity for example.

FoodChainGoblins alluded to something already though. The grindy nature of the decks makes it so that there are no "free wins" so to speak. You have play an actual game of Magic against every single opponent and games can go quite long which can be mentally draining just like with every other strategy that tries to control what the opponent is doing. Sure some games feel easier than others but you still have to play your cards correctly. You have no combo that just ends the game.
Conversely every opponent has to do the same too though since you are so full with disruption that it's impossible for your opponent to do what he wanted to do. Unless you kept a sketchy hand of course but that is then your fault.

I play these kind of decks because they actually feel like Black decks to me. Discard this, kill that, sacrifice those and now I kill you. That's what made me a player of those decks. That they are pretty good certainly didn't hurt either lol