I had quit MTG, and sold all my cards to a player. I had told him that I was not interested in playing anymore, and thought that would be cool. That was couple month ago.
But that same player, and only that player, is trying to force me to return to the LGS. He calls me 3ish times a week, askingif I "need a lift" to cards. He gives other players my phone number, and tells them to call me and get me to go to the standard or draft. He even calls me up 2 hours AFTER I have told him I won't be going. He offers so called "incentives"..like "If you come this week I will give you commons you need" (A. Won't need commons if I don't have any other cards) B)They would be commons I just gave him for free)
I mean yeah, if it was just once or twice, fair enough, but for months? Isn't that...almost stalking? He knows I clearly don't feel like playing..I gather he is trying to make me crack and say ok, I'll come once...but then he assumes that I wil lturn up weekly.
I think you need to sit down with him and explain that things have changed from the way they were before, and it would be best if you started seeing other people.
I think you need to sit down with him and explain that things have changed from the way they were before, and it would be best if you started seeing other people.
Haha that's funny. But seriously, you should firmly tell this guy that you're not going to play and he needs to stop calling you to ask you to go play. It isn't going to happen. If you change your mind, you'll call him. If he still harasses you after that, you might want to think about changing your phone number, as annoying as that would be for you, it depends on how persistent he is and how annoyed you are with him.
Maybe I'm just old, but if some "friend" kept bugging me, I'd let him know it.. real fast.. I'd be like "Yo, stop annoying me, I don't want to play. Call me about this crap again and you can forget about our friendship."
Y'all seem to go through a lot of trouble instead of just being point blank with the guy. Tell him to his face to quit, if he doesn't.. Take action.
Exactly. Like others have said, you have to tell him. Honestly some people just can't take a hint and I'm not sure if it's entirely their fault or they're just wired that way.
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Thats creepy and stalkerish. I dont know why you need to ask us. Tell him to go away or you will get a restraining order.
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Sorry, I should have put this in Off Topic..But, I have said to him "look, I just DO NOT feel like playing anymore....and I don't want to be FORCED to play... just to benefit YOU. A hobby no longer becomes fun when it's being FORCED to do"..heis reaction is "What else you going to do?" (ie as in alternative to playing cards".
The thing I ask is (I'm asking in general, Nyarlarthop)..why do you (anyone reading) think he is so obsessed with me (and only me)going to cards so much? Narcissism (control)? I've clearly explained to him I don't want to attend cards. Others have quit, and he hasn't stalked them to come back.
SOmething relevant though. Remember a while back I posted about how my local TO was "giving me a hard time". With this player trying to force me to go to the LGS (and only that one) is there possibilities of a connection?
I don't understand why you care what his reasons are. You didn't even use the word "friend" in the OP, so it doesn't sound to me like this is a relationship you're invested in.
Have you tried hitting him with a rolled up newspaper?
But in all seriousness, why don't you just block his texts and calls?
H doesn't appear to be your friend and more likely a player at the store
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I'm not understanding what the issue is. It seems you've tried to be civil and cool about the whole thing. Just tell him to **** off. Everyone these days is so concerned with offending people and hurting their little feelings that no one ever says anything they mean, or anything with any substance, at least not without ***** footing, sugar coating, circle talking for so long prior to just giving up and losing their cool that in the end it makes little difference what was going on in the first place. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Life is too short to cater to people who make it abundantly clear they could care less about doing the same for you.
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Have you tried hitting him with a rolled up newspaper?
This.
But if he's having other players call you, he's got to be stopped. I would show up at the LCS once. Tell him face to face in front of all the other players that you're not interested in playing, and the next time he calls you're going to call 911 to file an incident report. If that doesn't sufficiently humiliate him into losing your number, then I think you're just going to have to call the coppers.
No interest in playing at all but still frequenting a MTG-centric website? Seems a little suspect to me...
He's got 2 posts from May, and 4 posts in this thread. I wouldn't call that "frequenting". Particularly since he says he got out "a couple months ago" so posts from May aren't particularly suspect.
It's really sort of hard to break it down, because it's not overly clear what the issues are.
1. Are you annoyed because you want to get out of Magic and the invitation is a temptation you'd rather avoid?
2. Do you want to hang out with this guy in some other capacity, but are stuggling to find a mutually enjoyable activity?
3. is the Guy's invitation self serving I.e. for the lift or free cards or does he value you has a player etc?
I don't know I can't really work out if the guy annoys you or if the playing magic annoys you. One thing I would pay attention to is
how much does your interaction matter to this guy?
I had some mates that I only really hungout with to play roleplaying games, unfortunately I sort of lost the time to play and basically lost touch with them
because the gaming with our one common activity. I quite regret not finding a way to form more lasting friendships out side the game.
1. I have known the guy previous to this "scenario". He does hint at malignant narcissism, definitly
shines as a "control" fetish. in response to:
is the Guy's invitation self serving I.e
2.
I don't know I can't really work out if the guy annoys you or if the playing magic annoys you
I don't mind playing cards, but being harassed/stalked to do so kind of makes it less enjoyable. He ONLY targets
me, as others have quit and he has not stalked them.
3.
No interest in playing at all but still frequenting a MTG-centric website? Seems a little suspect to me...
It is (slightly)mtg related...because this guy will listen to MTG officials if he was warned that this is inappropriate behaviour. I am asking if there is some rule against stalking/forcing people to play.
4.I can't really block his calls (they are to my house phone, which my mom uses also). Even if I did, he would still drive around here, which he has done.
You're ignoring the best piece of advice in this thread.
Next time he contacts you, tell him no and that you're calling the police next time he does it. And then do it. This is extremely simple and very easy.
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I had quit MTG, and sold all my cards to a player. I had told him that I was not interested in playing anymore, and thought that would be cool. That was couple month ago.
But that same player, and only that player, is trying to force me to return to the LGS. He calls me 3ish times a week, askingif I "need a lift" to cards. He gives other players my phone number, and tells them to call me and get me to go to the standard or draft. He even calls me up 2 hours AFTER I have told him I won't be going. He offers so called "incentives"..like "If you come this week I will give you commons you need" (A. Won't need commons if I don't have any other cards) B)They would be commons I just gave him for free)
I mean yeah, if it was just once or twice, fair enough, but for months? Isn't that...almost stalking? He knows I clearly don't feel like playing..I gather he is trying to make me crack and say ok, I'll come once...but then he assumes that I wil lturn up weekly.
EDIT: It was a little bit too mean :/ I'ts Christmas after all!
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Haha that's funny. But seriously, you should firmly tell this guy that you're not going to play and he needs to stop calling you to ask you to go play. It isn't going to happen. If you change your mind, you'll call him. If he still harasses you after that, you might want to think about changing your phone number, as annoying as that would be for you, it depends on how persistent he is and how annoyed you are with him.
Y'all seem to go through a lot of trouble instead of just being point blank with the guy. Tell him to his face to quit, if he doesn't.. Take action.
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Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)for he is the messenger between the spheres
and the traveler between the realms of the living and the dead.
He shall summon forth the ancient ones
and wake them from their deathly slumber
then shall the elder signs be shattered.
Trade Thread
The thing I ask is (I'm asking in general, Nyarlarthop)..why do you (anyone reading) think he is so obsessed with me (and only me)going to cards so much? Narcissism (control)? I've clearly explained to him I don't want to attend cards. Others have quit, and he hasn't stalked them to come back.
SOmething relevant though. Remember a while back I posted about how my local TO was "giving me a hard time". With this player trying to force me to go to the LGS (and only that one) is there possibilities of a connection?
Like this
Which is why I wrote
It's also the fact that a trading card game: MAGIC THE GATHERING has become a tool used by a malignant narcissist to benefit their "control" fetish.
But in all seriousness, why don't you just block his texts and calls?
H doesn't appear to be your friend and more likely a player at the store
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big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
Yes. I forgot to mention that I knew this guy pre-cards. DSF, apologies.
This.
But if he's having other players call you, he's got to be stopped. I would show up at the LCS once. Tell him face to face in front of all the other players that you're not interested in playing, and the next time he calls you're going to call 911 to file an incident report. If that doesn't sufficiently humiliate him into losing your number, then I think you're just going to have to call the coppers.
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1. Are you annoyed because you want to get out of Magic and the invitation is a temptation you'd rather avoid?
2. Do you want to hang out with this guy in some other capacity, but are stuggling to find a mutually enjoyable activity?
3. is the Guy's invitation self serving I.e. for the lift or free cards or does he value you has a player etc?
I don't know I can't really work out if the guy annoys you or if the playing magic annoys you. One thing I would pay attention to is
how much does your interaction matter to this guy?
I had some mates that I only really hungout with to play roleplaying games, unfortunately I sort of lost the time to play and basically lost touch with them
because the gaming with our one common activity. I quite regret not finding a way to form more lasting friendships out side the game.
The best way to demonstrate that you don't have to do as someone says is to simply not do as they say.
1. I have known the guy previous to this "scenario". He does hint at malignant narcissism, definitly
shines as a "control" fetish. in response to:
2.
I don't mind playing cards, but being harassed/stalked to do so kind of makes it less enjoyable. He ONLY targets
me, as others have quit and he has not stalked them.
3.
It is (slightly)mtg related...because this guy will listen to MTG officials if he was warned that this is inappropriate behaviour. I am asking if there is some rule against stalking/forcing people to play.
4.I can't really block his calls (they are to my house phone, which my mom uses also). Even if I did, he would still drive around here, which he has done.
You're ignoring the best piece of advice in this thread.
Next time he contacts you, tell him no and that you're calling the police next time he does it. And then do it. This is extremely simple and very easy.