You can tell the try hard net deckers. It's funny when they don't win as you can see the disappointment on their faces. I haven't really had the time to get to know anybody yet but I've certainly noticed there's 1-2 people that smelt a bit off.
There's the cool dudes that talk about their social lives and go downstairs for a smoke between rounds. I don't think I'll get along with those guys but those type of players are in the minority.
There's the casual gamers that you can tell like to make their own deck and just have a good time. Those are the people I'm there to meet. I want MTG to be a social experience.
I started playing when I was 13 and it was with a bunch of older guys. I'm not going to forget the fun times I had so I'm going to do my best to pay attention to the kids and make them feel like they're part of the group too.
Damage off the stack, new mechanics galore, no mana burn. It's been a ride just trying to get updated on the rules
I couldn't but notice the dichotomy about wanting the social experience, but not getting along with the more social players lol. Most folks who play MtG in that category are chill as **** (e.g. college dudes). For instance in my meta we're taking one of our magic friends out to the strip club tomorrow for his Bday because he's never been before. Then we're going to test all day on Friday until early in the morning on Saturday for the PTQ on that Saturday.
Also, don't dismiss the more competitive players. Many of us are chill too. Then again, something like 60% of the players on the Island are veterans, in college, so...that probably skews my experiences.
Anyways, no harm striking up a convo with others in your meta. What's the worst that can happen?
I have not been to everyone else's shops, so I can't say either way. All I can do is speak from my own experience and I have not found that the BO is any more of a problem at FLGS than in a department store or restaurant.
You know who says it doesnt stink. The guy who stinks. And I dont sit ckose to the same people for 5+ hours at the department store.
The only problem is my LGS is too small and sells out. MTGs popularity is out stripping the number of LGS available. I am pretty sure there is only three... in a city of 2 million !.
Also not actually hugely local its just on my way home from work.
Unless they are just some bandwagoner who doesn't even know 3 songs by icp, or who twiztid is etc....
Also I am pretty hardcore psychopathic records junkie, I don't think I've worn an ICP shirt in at least 8 or 9 years.... Of course I think I realized that t-shirts and grimmy ass jeans are not exactly stylish.
You know who says it doesnt stink. The guy who stinks. And I dont sit ckose to the same people for 5+ hours at the department store.
Yea, that's it. The only reason I say it doesn't stink in my shop is because I stink...you're a regular Sherlock Holmes, mate (though clearly you cannot be bothered to spell check your post). Even though my profession is as a nurse- in which cleanliness is one of the most important habits, and my wife (also a nurse) would not let me near her if I smelled, and I shower at least once a day, I must be the stink-master general.
For me, players that i've met at my LGS all have a blatant lack of social skills. Add body odor, or stupid stuff like wearing a long-coat to play indoor ( you know, matrix style? That actually happened)
For me, the worst is when someone ONLY talks about Magic, and wont shut up. When I play with friends, we'll chat about random stuff while we play. Thats cool. I played with this guy the other day, he wouldnt shut up about his cards and this AWESOME interaction, and this SWEEEET combo, etc etc. Newsflash : I dont care. I dont even understand half the cards you are mentioning. I also wont understand even if you explain it, I need to read to understand something.
I remember the first time I went to my LGS. I was looking for some cards and the LGS was out. So this guy got up and told me he had some, and was willing to sell them. At that moment, I genuinely thought "wow, this LGS is nice. Its great. I love this place. Its only my first time here but this guy is so helpful!" but that quickly faded, when he decided I was his new bestfriend for the day. So, he decided to give me a speech on the interaction of pretty much all his decks. "this card does this, its strong, dont you think?" "Wait till you see the next step, I also have THIS CARD!!! Amazing, right?" "BUT WAIT, THERES MORE!!11one" Non stop. For a good 15 minutes. At that point I was still browsing cards, annoyed, and only replied in "hm hm", trying to be polite.
Seriously, what the hell? Thats not how you make friends. After that incident, I left and decided that I'd avoid those guys like the plague.
For me, players that i've met at my LGS all have a blatant lack of social skills. Add body odor, or stupid stuff like wearing a long-coat to play indoor ( you know, matrix style? That actually happened)
For me, the worst is when someone ONLY talks about Magic, and wont shut up. When I play with friends, we'll chat about random stuff while we play. Thats cool. I played with this guy the other day, he wouldnt shut up about his cards and this AWESOME interaction, and this SWEEEET combo, etc etc. Newsflash : I dont care. I dont even understand half the cards you are mentioning. I also wont understand even if you explain it, I need to read to understand something.
I remember the first time I went to my LGS. I was looking for some cards and the LGS was out. So this guy got up and told me he had some, and was willing to sell them. At that moment, I genuinely thought "wow, this LGS is nice. Its great. I love this place. Its only my first time here but this guy is so helpful!" but that quickly faded, when he decided I was his new bestfriend for the day. So, he decided to give me a speech on the interaction of pretty much all his decks. "this card does this, its strong, dont you think?" "Wait till you see the next step, I also have THIS CARD!!! Amazing, right?" "BUT WAIT, THERES MORE!!11one" Non stop. For a good 15 minutes. At that point I was still browsing cards, annoyed, and only replied in "hm hm", trying to be polite.
Seriously, what the hell? Thats not how you make friends. After that incident, I left and decided that I'd avoid those guys like the plague.
To be fair, this sounds more like a personal pet peeve and not something that would bother the average player so much.
Secondly, if a person's deck teching bothers you this much, you ought to be saying something to them (rather than *****ing on a forum).
Often, players get so much joy from these little combos/interactions that they feel compelled to share. And it tends to be positively reinforced by other players. Johnny/Melvin mentalities and whatnot.
That said, there's nothing wrong with politely trying to steer the conversation in a different direction, or simply telling them (nicely) that you're not interested.
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I'm officially proposing we retire the word "insane" from the MtG vocabulary.
"The best way to be different is to be better" - Gene Muir
To be fair, this sounds more like a personal pet peeve and not something that would bother the average player so much.
Secondly, if a person's deck teching bothers you this much, you ought to be saying something to them (rather than *****ing on a forum).
Often, players get so much joy from these little combos/interactions that they feel compelled to share. And it tends to be positively reinforced by other players. Johnny/Melvin mentalities and whatnot.
That said, there's nothing wrong with politely trying to steer the conversation in a different direction, or simply telling them (nicely) that you're not interested.
It may be a pet peeve, but seriously, in what scenario is it acceptable to start a 15 minute monologue with a total stranger? Be it MTG or any other subject, when you meet someone for the first time, I think you'd want to have an actual conversation. However most people I met that play MTG have this attitude of only talking about their cards, their deck, their combo. Its like they only want to talk about themselve and just want to give every new player a complete lecture.
At this point, there's no steering the conversation. It isn't a conversation if the dialogue is only one way. Its like listening to a broken record.
Again, what makes me sad is that the majority of MTG players that I met are like that. I'd love to meet new players to play with, but frankly its HARD to find someone that can have a normal conversation.
It may be a pet peeve, but seriously, in what scenario is it acceptable to start a 15 minute monologue with a total stranger? Be it MTG or any other subject, when you meet someone for the first time, I think you'd want to have an actual conversation. However most people I met that play MTG have this attitude of only talking about their cards, their deck, their combo. Its like they only want to talk about themselve and just want to give every new player a complete lecture.
At this point, there's no steering the conversation. It isn't a conversation if the dialogue is only one way. Its like listening to a broken record.
Again, what makes me sad is that the majority of MTG players that I met are like that. I'd love to meet new players to play with, but frankly its HARD to find someone that can have a normal conversation.
Bring headphones. Everyone gets sick of that stuff. I think maybe 10% of people I meet playing magic I'd want to hang out with outside of Magic.
A few weeks ago I watched a guy start a game with his girlfriend, then slowly he took over both hands and was basically playing himself and talking to himself because his girlfriend was totally bored. He was oblivious, saying why he was doing this and how he could do this, this and this and his analysis was all wrong. I thought it was hilariously pathetic.
Yea, that's it. The only reason I say it doesn't stink in my shop is because I stink...you're a regular Sherlock Holmes, mate (though clearly you cannot be bothered to spell check your post). Even though my profession is as a nurse- in which cleanliness is one of the most important habits, and my wife (also a nurse) would not let me near her if I smelled, and I shower at least once a day, I must be the stink-master general.
Smells are relative. Ask a vegan how meat eaters smell. You'll get an earful. I think people smell at the LGS. Certainly not all, but enough to make you a little ill round 3 of FNM at a store with poor ventilation. Your vehement defense of all smelly people is admirable but a little out of touch with reality for a lot of people.
Also, I can spell with the best of them. I just have lower standards when I'm typing on my Note 2.
Smells are relative. Ask a vegan how meat eaters smell. You'll get an earful. I think people smell at the LGS. Certainly not all, but enough to make you a little ill round 3 of FNM at a store with poor ventilation.
A small store that is poorly ventilated and filled with supermodels or anybody else will start to smell rank after the same amount of time if it is warm.
Your vehement defense of all smelly people is admirable but a little out of touch with reality for a lot of people.
I am not defending smelly anything, I am stating that the stereotype that MTG players are less clean and well groomed than average people of the same age has not been substantiated in my experience.
For reference, here is the shop I generally go to. As you can see it is large, airy, bright, and clean. The other shop I sometimes go to is about half the size, but still clean and well maintained (as you can see from these photos). I know for a fact that you can find shops like these in Seattle and Northern California, and I am sure they are getting more common across the country.
Threads like these keep people away from MTG. My bad teeth keep people away from MTG. Jon Finkel's bald spot keep people away from MTG. The alternative-lifestyle people keep others away from MTG. Your small member keeps people away from MTG. (wave of sarcasm)
Personally, I think the alpha-nerd mentality and the idea that magic is a game of skill and that there is no greater purpose to the game other than to display your incredible talent at memorizing the rules and talent buying new cards keeps people away from Magic more than the people playing it do.
Hypocritical, judgmental calling out of other players is more damaging to the game than anything else. I've never been to an LGS that hasn't required deodorant, but not everyone is perfect. Everybody poops. It's too bad that eugenics thing from the early 20th century didn't catch on with the non-fascists. Only perfect people would play MTG and all would be well.
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Decks:
Legacy: RWBG Goblins RRR Burn WBU Affinity UBR Sac-Land Tendrils! BBBPox
Next possible deck: D&T, but that just wouldn't be right.
Modern: R Goblins (work in progress)
Standard: I only care about standard when Goblins is a deck.
Limited: I only care about limited when Goblins are in the set.
This was addicting to me for about 4 months. In that span, I spent about $250 per month.
I actually recently found out this is how super competitive gamers act in general.
from my sample size (one store, about 30 guys in one social group, store regulars) a vast majority of them started in the summer of 2013, spending hundreds
then they get burnt out on the game/scene for some reason.
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I couldn't but notice the dichotomy about wanting the social experience, but not getting along with the more social players lol. Most folks who play MtG in that category are chill as **** (e.g. college dudes). For instance in my meta we're taking one of our magic friends out to the strip club tomorrow for his Bday because he's never been before. Then we're going to test all day on Friday until early in the morning on Saturday for the PTQ on that Saturday.
Also, don't dismiss the more competitive players. Many of us are chill too. Then again, something like 60% of the players on the Island are veterans, in college, so...that probably skews my experiences.
Anyways, no harm striking up a convo with others in your meta. What's the worst that can happen?
You know who says it doesnt stink. The guy who stinks. And I dont sit ckose to the same people for 5+ hours at the department store.
Also not actually hugely local its just on my way home from work.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
Unless they are just some bandwagoner who doesn't even know 3 songs by icp, or who twiztid is etc....
Also I am pretty hardcore psychopathic records junkie, I don't think I've worn an ICP shirt in at least 8 or 9 years.... Of course I think I realized that t-shirts and grimmy ass jeans are not exactly stylish.
BEEEES!
Rabble Red
Modern
Burn
Infect
Reprint Opt for Modern!!
FREE DIG THOROUGH TIME!
PLAY MORE ROUGE DECKS!
For me, players that i've met at my LGS all have a blatant lack of social skills. Add body odor, or stupid stuff like wearing a long-coat to play indoor ( you know, matrix style? That actually happened)
For me, the worst is when someone ONLY talks about Magic, and wont shut up. When I play with friends, we'll chat about random stuff while we play. Thats cool. I played with this guy the other day, he wouldnt shut up about his cards and this AWESOME interaction, and this SWEEEET combo, etc etc. Newsflash : I dont care. I dont even understand half the cards you are mentioning. I also wont understand even if you explain it, I need to read to understand something.
I remember the first time I went to my LGS. I was looking for some cards and the LGS was out. So this guy got up and told me he had some, and was willing to sell them. At that moment, I genuinely thought "wow, this LGS is nice. Its great. I love this place. Its only my first time here but this guy is so helpful!" but that quickly faded, when he decided I was his new bestfriend for the day. So, he decided to give me a speech on the interaction of pretty much all his decks. "this card does this, its strong, dont you think?" "Wait till you see the next step, I also have THIS CARD!!! Amazing, right?" "BUT WAIT, THERES MORE!!11one" Non stop. For a good 15 minutes. At that point I was still browsing cards, annoyed, and only replied in "hm hm", trying to be polite.
Seriously, what the hell? Thats not how you make friends. After that incident, I left and decided that I'd avoid those guys like the plague.
To be fair, this sounds more like a personal pet peeve and not something that would bother the average player so much.
Secondly, if a person's deck teching bothers you this much, you ought to be saying something to them (rather than *****ing on a forum).
Often, players get so much joy from these little combos/interactions that they feel compelled to share. And it tends to be positively reinforced by other players. Johnny/Melvin mentalities and whatnot.
That said, there's nothing wrong with politely trying to steer the conversation in a different direction, or simply telling them (nicely) that you're not interested.
I'm officially proposing we retire the word "insane" from the MtG vocabulary.
"The best way to be different is to be better" - Gene Muir
Cubes:
Modern Banlist Cube
Monocolor Budget Cube
It may be a pet peeve, but seriously, in what scenario is it acceptable to start a 15 minute monologue with a total stranger? Be it MTG or any other subject, when you meet someone for the first time, I think you'd want to have an actual conversation. However most people I met that play MTG have this attitude of only talking about their cards, their deck, their combo. Its like they only want to talk about themselve and just want to give every new player a complete lecture.
At this point, there's no steering the conversation. It isn't a conversation if the dialogue is only one way. Its like listening to a broken record.
Again, what makes me sad is that the majority of MTG players that I met are like that. I'd love to meet new players to play with, but frankly its HARD to find someone that can have a normal conversation.
Bring headphones. Everyone gets sick of that stuff. I think maybe 10% of people I meet playing magic I'd want to hang out with outside of Magic.
A few weeks ago I watched a guy start a game with his girlfriend, then slowly he took over both hands and was basically playing himself and talking to himself because his girlfriend was totally bored. He was oblivious, saying why he was doing this and how he could do this, this and this and his analysis was all wrong. I thought it was hilariously pathetic.
Smells are relative. Ask a vegan how meat eaters smell. You'll get an earful. I think people smell at the LGS. Certainly not all, but enough to make you a little ill round 3 of FNM at a store with poor ventilation. Your vehement defense of all smelly people is admirable but a little out of touch with reality for a lot of people.
Also, I can spell with the best of them. I just have lower standards when I'm typing on my Note 2.
We didn't actually close down we just moved to a new location off of Rancho California.
28751 Rancho California
Suite 103
Temecula, Ca 92590
I am not defending smelly anything, I am stating that the stereotype that MTG players are less clean and well groomed than average people of the same age has not been substantiated in my experience.
For reference, here is the shop I generally go to. As you can see it is large, airy, bright, and clean. The other shop I sometimes go to is about half the size, but still clean and well maintained (as you can see from these photos). I know for a fact that you can find shops like these in Seattle and Northern California, and I am sure they are getting more common across the country.
Reprint Opt for Modern!!
FREE DIG THOROUGH TIME!
PLAY MORE ROUGE DECKS!
Personally, I think the alpha-nerd mentality and the idea that magic is a game of skill and that there is no greater purpose to the game other than to display your incredible talent at memorizing the rules and talent buying new cards keeps people away from Magic more than the people playing it do.
Hypocritical, judgmental calling out of other players is more damaging to the game than anything else. I've never been to an LGS that hasn't required deodorant, but not everyone is perfect. Everybody poops. It's too bad that eugenics thing from the early 20th century didn't catch on with the non-fascists. Only perfect people would play MTG and all would be well.
Legacy:
RWBG Goblins
RRR Burn
WBU Affinity
UBR Sac-Land Tendrils!
BBBPox
Next possible deck: D&T, but that just wouldn't be right.
Modern: R Goblins (work in progress)
Standard: I only care about standard when Goblins is a deck.
Limited: I only care about limited when Goblins are in the set.
Pauper:
RGoblins
URCloudpost
other decks
Goblins.
I actually recently found out this is how super competitive gamers act in general.
from my sample size (one store, about 30 guys in one social group, store regulars) a vast majority of them started in the summer of 2013, spending hundreds
then they get burnt out on the game/scene for some reason.