JUDGE!!!!!!!! he calls. I was puzzled. What could he be calling a Judge for?
What my opponent stated to the Judge was totally weird.
"He is using an illegal card. That is not a Standard Card."
WHAT?!?!?!
I tend to build standard decks with cards from the past and happen to have a few of these Unsummon's lying around so I added them to my deck.
Judge looked at my opponent and asked - "How long have you been playing Magic?" - 4 yrs my opponent stated. This is legal as long as standard has the card in the expansion released.
My opponent was so upset that he packed his stuff and left.
I never seen this before.
Anyone else?
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There's a guy at a sop I go to once in a blue moon. Everyone call hims "mad guy", because he gets upset over everything all the time. If something doesn't go his way, he gets all pissy about it. It's actually hilarious. I remember one time I had finished my match and there was a discrepancy with his match. Apparently, he wanted to name Oblivion Ring with Pithing Needle to stop it from working. His opponent said that doesn't work as intended and he got irate saying "YES IT DOES, EVEN ERWIN SAID IT WORKED IN ONE OF HIS VIDEO". At which point everyone was like "It doesn't work dude..." We explained to him the difference between activated and triggered abilities and he just wouldn't have it. "SO YOU'RE SAYING AN L3 JUDGE RULED THIS WRONG?" in about as sarcastic as you could get tone. He brought up the video where Evin Erwin was talking about when Reid Duke was playing drownyard bant, and he made a play the E.E. talked about. I watched the video, and what actually happened was R.D.'s opp had a Garruk, Primal Hunter under R.D.s Detention Sphere. R.D.s opp went to Oring the Dsphere and R.D. responded by Alchemist's Refuge Needle naming Garruk, so the guy couldn't activate. E.E. specifically even said "Pithing Needle naming Garruk, Primal Hunter."
Anyways, the mad dude ended up getting all frustrated and irate and was just like "WHATEVER". I tried to the best of my ability to get him to understand the interactions and what was going on, but he willingly wanted to stay ignorant. He's kind of a punch line to jokes now.
...People are stupid. I wonder if the guy would have a problem if someone used original ravnica shocklands too honestly. People just don't understand rules at all...
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...People are stupid. I wonder if the guy would have a problem if someone used original ravnica shocklands too honestly. People just don't understand rules at all...
To be fair, a newer player could easily make that mistake. I know I made it when I went to my first tournament.
That said, the OP's opponent playing Magic for 4 years might not refer to tournament Magic. If he'd been playing casually for most of that time, it's reasonable that he might make a mistake like that. It doesn't excuse his attitude, though.
Him calling a judge, whatever.
Him being confused, whatever.
Him not knowing that rule, whatever.
Him being explained the rule, and being upset, yeah he's a jerk, and an idiot.
that happened to me, so i asked at my LGS if you could play old cards that were printed in early sets that were standard legal and in standard? he said you could, but bring a copy of the standard legal one just in case someone does that
Back in the late 90s early 2000s, my friend was playing in an event and dropped a Dark Ball Lightning. His opponent immediately said, "DARK BALL LIGHTNING, YOU LOSE, YOU LOSE". In whatever format of the time, BL was legal, but the kid though because it was from The Dark, it wasnt legal.
To this day, we still joke about it and will say "Dark Ball Lightning, you lose, you lose".
But seriously, I'm surprised that this does not happen more often with the many newer players out there.
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
I must admit, I went scrambling for tenth edition incinerates when I got back in the game. I honestly thought cards had to be from the current standard sets... Had I known my Mirage Incinerates would''ve been legal, I could have saved about $0.30
Nowadays I specifically check my old collection for reprints, cards like Mulch and Lay of the land were so much prettier back in the day
Plus the surprise when they don't instantly recognize a card and have to double check is always nice
Rebecca Guay's Mulch is so much prettier. Sadly, I could only find 3 when I needed them, so I always had that off Art Mulch. I also always look back for the older versions though.
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Rebecca Guay's Mulch is so much prettier. Sadly, I could only find 3 when I needed them, so I always had that off Art Mulch. I also always look back for the older versions though.
Blech! Guay's art (for the most part) looks like the dreamy scratchings of lonely a 9th grade girl who pines for her romantic ideal fantasy of the dark ages. I cannot stand her work, especially on Magic cards.
I don't think Mulch is her best work either way, even though I generally do like her art. The dimensions on the cart is all goofy. Still makes more sense than "I'm chopping down trees, lol!" But I like how Innistrad Mulch pairs up nicely with this forest
Now that I think about it, it is kinda creepy that Caiaphas remembered the original telling of this "story" in the first place. Does he have some kind of forum based eidetic memory, or is he now just more machine than man? Does he fact-check every anecdote we post here? Can he digest dairy? Does he smell of peaches and cream? Will he go get me a Cherry Coke Zero if I ask nicely?
While that is a perfectly valid opinion, in the case of Mulch, what do you feel is the better art? I can't see anyone liking the Innistrad art better to be honest. I'm no Guay fanboy by any means, I prefer the OG Path to exile for instance, but she does put something special in her art.
I guess for me it is a matter of one being entirely forgettable, and the other just annoying me by it's very existence in MTG. Then again, the true failed art piece is the one that evokes no response at all, so I guess from that perspective Guay gets a point.
Now that I think about it, it is kinda creepy that Caiaphas remembered the original telling of this "story" in the first place. Does he have some kind of forum based eidetic memory, or is he now just more machine than man?
It's just because I have this odd habit of going through the threads posted by people whom I see on the forvm a lot. Hawk and I both post in CCC&G a lt, so I've read his threads.
Does he fact-check every anecdote we post here?
Only some of them
Can he digest dairy?
Yes.
Does he smell of peaches and cream?
No.
Will he go get me a Cherry Coke Zero if I ask nicely?
Back in the old extended time, I was playing domain zoo and cast tribal flames for a full five damage due to 2 rav duals and one basic land, I start writing up the 5 damage he goes its just one? Im like befuddled and explain to him what tribal flames is, he points out it says for each basic land type and says my forest is the only basic land, I call a judge and 1-2 min of explaining he chalks up the 5 damage.
This thread is full of idiots... Lightning Bolt is NOT being reprinted.
Many times has a writer in Wizards said so, because of the plain and simple fact that it's too powerful for what it costs. x/3 creatures shouldn't be able to die at instant speed for one mana without a signifigant drawback. (like PTE giving you a land)
I absolutely guarantee that LB will not be printed in M10, and you can quote me on that.
I like to use the seventh edition Pacifism and the original Skylight Legionnaire cards and have had opponents tell me that they're not legal in standard.
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This past Friday, I go to my local Hobby Shop to do some FNM Magic. They were doing a Standard Deck Tourny and I usually Like to play blue & green.
My opponent who I have not seen before, new to the place began to duel.
After a few turns, he attacks with Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis and I had one island open, so I cast Unsummon.
JUDGE!!!!!!!! he calls. I was puzzled. What could he be calling a Judge for?
What my opponent stated to the Judge was totally weird.
"He is using an illegal card. That is not a Standard Card."
WHAT?!?!?!
I tend to build standard decks with cards from the past and happen to have a few of these Unsummon's lying around so I added them to my deck.
Judge looked at my opponent and asked - "How long have you been playing Magic?" - 4 yrs my opponent stated. This is legal as long as standard has the card in the expansion released.
My opponent was so upset that he packed his stuff and left.
I never seen this before.
Anyone else?
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Anyways, the mad dude ended up getting all frustrated and irate and was just like "WHATEVER". I tried to the best of my ability to get him to understand the interactions and what was going on, but he willingly wanted to stay ignorant. He's kind of a punch line to jokes now.
Maybe he didn't get enough attention the first time.
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To be fair, a newer player could easily make that mistake. I know I made it when I went to my first tournament.
That said, the OP's opponent playing Magic for 4 years might not refer to tournament Magic. If he'd been playing casually for most of that time, it's reasonable that he might make a mistake like that. It doesn't excuse his attitude, though.
Him being confused, whatever.
Him not knowing that rule, whatever.
Him being explained the rule, and being upset, yeah he's a jerk, and an idiot.
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Weirdly, standard has been BAD since JTMS was banned, it hasn't been fun, nor healthy since.
Every day, a Judge has been called because of his Unsummon, don't blame him, for he is a victim of his Unsummon.
Thankfully we won't see this thread for a while since Unsummon won't be standard legal come Theros.
Unless WotC's plan starts working, and new players start playing modern. Ugh.
...and to the OP I say:
Reprint Opt for Modern!!
FREE DIG THOROUGH TIME!
PLAY MORE ROUGE DECKS!
Hm...
Very strange.
And no, it's never happened to me... but I rarely play paper magic in card shops.
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WB Teysa token aggroBW (retired)
MAKING (Onmath, Numot, maybe something in Esper)
To this day, we still joke about it and will say "Dark Ball Lightning, you lose, you lose".
BUWGRChilds PlayGRWUB
BUWGR Highlander GRWUB
UBSquee's Shapeshifting PetBU
BW Multiplayer Control WB
RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
Going berserk, not reasonable at all.
PS I had to check to see if Unsummon was in M13 or not myself.
This is what I got out of this thread.
But seriously, I'm surprised that this does not happen more often with the many newer players out there.
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Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
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Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Rebecca Guay's Mulch is so much prettier. Sadly, I could only find 3 when I needed them, so I always had that off Art Mulch. I also always look back for the older versions though.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Reprint Opt for Modern!!
FREE DIG THOROUGH TIME!
PLAY MORE ROUGE DECKS!
Kinda creepy...
Now that I think about it, it is kinda creepy that Caiaphas remembered the original telling of this "story" in the first place. Does he have some kind of forum based eidetic memory, or is he now just more machine than man? Does he fact-check every anecdote we post here? Can he digest dairy? Does he smell of peaches and cream? Will he go get me a Cherry Coke Zero if I ask nicely?
I guess for me it is a matter of one being entirely forgettable, and the other just annoying me by it's very existence in MTG. Then again, the true failed art piece is the one that evokes no response at all, so I guess from that perspective Guay gets a point.
Reprint Opt for Modern!!
FREE DIG THOROUGH TIME!
PLAY MORE ROUGE DECKS!
It's just because I have this odd habit of going through the threads posted by people whom I see on the forvm a lot. Hawk and I both post in CCC&G a lt, so I've read his threads.
Only some of them
Yes.
No.
If you're in the area.
Should we expect this story again in two years?
"He Thoughtseized me (I assume it will be reprinted soon) and in response I cast my revised Unsummon. Suddenly he called "JUDGE!!"
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