I don't mind losing. It's simply part of the game. THe key is to try to analyze each of your loses (and wins for that matter), and try to figure out what you could have done differently. Sometimes this means changing the cards in your deck, and sometimes this means making different plays during the game. Other times, your deck just lost and there wasn't much that you could have done about it. It's unfortunate that this is part of the game we play, but it's just how it is. Learn to get over it, or you won't be playing Magic much longer.
*SNIP* I hate newer players who nutdraw and beat me on turn four and start recommending changes to my deck. I hate losing to people who from knowing what I played last week, design a deck designed to beat me and only me, while losing to everything else.
These. Oh god these. At my FNM -EVERY WEEK- I get about 10-15 cards boarded in against me per game. WTF, Right?
I also hate losing to a silver bullet type card, where you're not even given the tools in the format to deal with it.
The Silver Bullet victory hurts. 1 card single handedly shutting down a deck hurts so much. I played a reanimator variant for a while, and seeing Rest in Peace come down hurt so much. Trying the beatdown route with Skaab zombies sucks. But you've gotta deal with those games. Usually try to slug it out, make them earn the win. That makes me feel a bit better. (Not stall for the sake of stalling though.)
I never tilt. What's the point? You just have to accept that sometimes people have outs and they will find them. I get a little disappointed, but then I try something else and usually my luck turns around.
These. Oh god these. At my FNM -EVERY WEEK- I get about 10-15 cards boarded in against me per game. WTF, Right?
I also hate losing to a silver bullet type card, where you're not even given the tools in the format to deal with it.
Sounds like you guys should vary your strategies from week to week. If someone knows you're going to play Mono R and build a deck to beat you, play something else like UW Flash.
People are going to adjust their decks to what they lost to the week before, why play into them?
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
I just want people who redraft to admit this:
"I can't draft objectively unless I am able to guarantee that I receive at least 3 rares. I am also better than most average/new players so I want to make sure that I get the best rares and they end up with worse ones. I care more about the monetary value of cards than actually playing the game for decent prizes."
I usually see the loss coming about 2-3 turns before I concede. I usually just smile and sigh as I *shockingly* don't top deck the exact combination of cards required to keep me in the game. If I do not see the loss coming or the opponent combos off out of nowhere I have one of 4 reactions,
a) Audibly groan
b) Exclaim 'Really?!'
c) Laugh out loud
d) Utter a long and pronounced 'Wowwwwwww' in complete disbelief.
I then say good game and wish them luck with the rest of the tournament/FNM.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't.
It's winning graciously that's hard to do, especially when it is obvious that the other player is frustrated with his hand and draws. How to make them feel better? I try to play calmly and maybe mutter, "Well, that was a lucky topdeck," when yet another crushing play from my deck extinguishes the shred of hope that has just started to form. Like when they rip a Goyf to hold off the beats but it gets StPed instantly. My intention in doing so is to call attention away from any skill involved and chalk it up to an insane draw vs a mediocre one, even if the play was (in fact) a tight one that I'm pleased with.
I agree with this, and I'd add that I HATE beating kids. Not teens, especially not older ones, but if some 8-10 year old who's fresh to the game, is on a limited budget (ESPECIALLY if his parents are grudging or even hostile regarding the whole hobby, as mine were,) and just gets absolutely stomped at his first FNM...well, I see that as potentially bad for the overall health of the game. I don't want to be responsible for helping drive new/young blood away from the game.
No, I'm not going to pitch to them, because I don't really view that as helpful for their development as a player. Just like I told my wife when I started teaching her the game. "I'll never LET you win, so when you do, you'll have earned it."
It's really a bit of a tough spot, if you act me. On one hand, you want to support kids playing this, rather than say, GTA or Call of Duty (to take it to extremes,) but you also don't want to roll over and just let them win.
What annoys me when I lose is when someone who plays a net deck starts bemoaning how bad my cards are.
For instance last night on MTGO I was losing to a popular deck mostly because he/she was drawing lots more gas than I was....I made comment in chat about how much gas he was drawing...nothing snide or menacing and he/she responded about how I play bad cards.
I'll be the first one to say, I try to build rogue decks and sometimes they are crap decks. This one, while not tier one, it can hold its own. So I took a little offense since I was getting a little flooded and had a bad starting hand. Next game, I was in control and he topped one of three outs he had against me so I railed him a little about it...something along the lines of how such a great deck could be down to three outs and he thought because his batterskull was out (that was never going to touch me by the time I had him killed, if he does not top stony silence) he was winning which was further from the truth. I can say that because because I knew his deck, he did not know or understand my deck and my position was very strong.
Long story short is...if you have to rely upon someone else to show you what deck is good, do not try and look down upon other peoples cards or rogue strategies. In my opinion if you can not build your own deck, you obviously have no sense, generally, of what a good card/strategy is. Which is okay......not bashing those...but you look foolish when you start bemoaning others.....
Usually it's a non-issue. I get up and say good game. Last weekend I lost to someone during pre-release on a mulligan to 3. I expected to lose, he should have expected me to lose, but he looks seriously at me and says, "Tough battle" like we had just gone toe to toe for 9 rounds and he had emerged victorious. Yes, it was amazing my deck didn't just fold to yours and die in 3 turns. I actually lasted 6 turns. Whoopeee. It struck me the wrong way and I just got up and left without my customary good game. I apologized later, but losing can cause anyone to rage. Don't think it won't happen to you.
I have a very hard time losing.
Some backstory...
I started playing MTG in late 1994 right when revised was switching to 4th edition. I played casually and collected through Invasion and fell out of playing for about 20 years.
FF to winter 2019 and I got a job at a used video game store that also deals in TCGs, and I was the only person on staff who knew anything about Magic and was made the magic buyer by default. I had to bring myself up to speed on the game and all the changes made to it in almost 2 decades. Needless to say it was a massive crash course. When I left the game mana burn was still a thing and dual lands sold for around $20 each!
With COVID we canceled all gaming events and I had noone to play with, and I was clueless on how all the new mechanics worked. (What the hell is a planeswalker?!? Etc)...I started playing on arena to figure out all the additions to the game and familiarize myself with what cards were good in standard format, and most of the time I can do ok playing in standard but recent events in historic leave me obliterated 8 games out of 10, usually in unstopable combos with cards i have never seen or heard of. I know I should just relish learning more about the game I've loved for so long, but I can't help getting enraged and feeling stupid knowing most of my losses are handed to me by people who weren't even born when I started playing the game.
You can find me on MTGO. My username is gereffi.
These. Oh god these. At my FNM -EVERY WEEK- I get about 10-15 cards boarded in against me per game. WTF, Right?
I also hate losing to a silver bullet type card, where you're not even given the tools in the format to deal with it.
Sounds like you guys should vary your strategies from week to week. If someone knows you're going to play Mono R and build a deck to beat you, play something else like UW Flash.
People are going to adjust their decks to what they lost to the week before, why play into them?
Watch Play Read
Twitter
a) Audibly groan
b) Exclaim 'Really?!'
c) Laugh out loud
d) Utter a long and pronounced 'Wowwwwwww' in complete disbelief.
I then say good game and wish them luck with the rest of the tournament/FNM.
Tiamat, Chromatic Dragon RWUBG
Planeswalker - Tiamat
[+1] Sit on Nicol Bolas
[+0] Wait for him to beg for mercy, rule the multiverse.
[-7] Not necessary, she is the ultimate.
I agree with this, and I'd add that I HATE beating kids. Not teens, especially not older ones, but if some 8-10 year old who's fresh to the game, is on a limited budget (ESPECIALLY if his parents are grudging or even hostile regarding the whole hobby, as mine were,) and just gets absolutely stomped at his first FNM...well, I see that as potentially bad for the overall health of the game. I don't want to be responsible for helping drive new/young blood away from the game.
No, I'm not going to pitch to them, because I don't really view that as helpful for their development as a player. Just like I told my wife when I started teaching her the game. "I'll never LET you win, so when you do, you'll have earned it."
It's really a bit of a tough spot, if you act me. On one hand, you want to support kids playing this, rather than say, GTA or Call of Duty (to take it to extremes,) but you also don't want to roll over and just let them win.
For instance last night on MTGO I was losing to a popular deck mostly because he/she was drawing lots more gas than I was....I made comment in chat about how much gas he was drawing...nothing snide or menacing and he/she responded about how I play bad cards.
I'll be the first one to say, I try to build rogue decks and sometimes they are crap decks. This one, while not tier one, it can hold its own. So I took a little offense since I was getting a little flooded and had a bad starting hand. Next game, I was in control and he topped one of three outs he had against me so I railed him a little about it...something along the lines of how such a great deck could be down to three outs and he thought because his batterskull was out (that was never going to touch me by the time I had him killed, if he does not top stony silence) he was winning which was further from the truth. I can say that because because I knew his deck, he did not know or understand my deck and my position was very strong.
Long story short is...if you have to rely upon someone else to show you what deck is good, do not try and look down upon other peoples cards or rogue strategies. In my opinion if you can not build your own deck, you obviously have no sense, generally, of what a good card/strategy is. Which is okay......not bashing those...but you look foolish when you start bemoaning others.....
/rant.
calling liberals loons=not okay
The standard to which the forum moderators apply the rules here.
Some backstory...
I started playing MTG in late 1994 right when revised was switching to 4th edition. I played casually and collected through Invasion and fell out of playing for about 20 years.
FF to winter 2019 and I got a job at a used video game store that also deals in TCGs, and I was the only person on staff who knew anything about Magic and was made the magic buyer by default. I had to bring myself up to speed on the game and all the changes made to it in almost 2 decades. Needless to say it was a massive crash course. When I left the game mana burn was still a thing and dual lands sold for around $20 each!
With COVID we canceled all gaming events and I had noone to play with, and I was clueless on how all the new mechanics worked. (What the hell is a planeswalker?!? Etc)...I started playing on arena to figure out all the additions to the game and familiarize myself with what cards were good in standard format, and most of the time I can do ok playing in standard but recent events in historic leave me obliterated 8 games out of 10, usually in unstopable combos with cards i have never seen or heard of. I know I should just relish learning more about the game I've loved for so long, but I can't help getting enraged and feeling stupid knowing most of my losses are handed to me by people who weren't even born when I started playing the game.