I have an uncut sheet of 1996 Arena Promos and an uncut sheet of series 1 Vanguard cards hanging in my game room. All of my friends love them, even my wife thinks they are cool and she doesn't play magic very much. Ive had some offers on them, even toyed with the idea of tossing one of them on eBay but I enjoy them too much to get rid of them.
Frame 'em and keep 'em, I say. I wish I had one so that when I get my own place I could put it up in a game room. It'd look better than some random poster, that's for sure.
After reading this thread I kind of want one....how big is an uncut sheet?
They are pretty big. There are 121 cards on the sheet, 11 rows of 11 cards. In addition, there is a border around the edges with color samples, lot and serial numbers and and marking for the printing/cutting machines.
They end up being somewhat bigger than a standard poster. It costs quite a bit to get them framed. Mine was probably $250....on sale.
Well worth it. I have a five uncut sheets from Lord of the Rings TCG....those I will probably sell someday, but I'm keeping my Magic one.
They end up being somewhat bigger than a standard poster. It costs quite a bit to get them framed. Mine was probably $250....on sale.
I have had a bunch of stuff framed. I use www.americanframe.com . I put the figures in for a sheet (that is if I did it correctly) but a frame 28x39 would be around $140. There are probably more custom framing places online, so there are cheaper alternatives out there.
I would kill a man for that Alpha sheet, but I wouldn't want any of the newer sets. I've never come around to the new look of the cards (new for me at least) and can't imagine hanging them in my house. They look decent individually inside of sleeves, but they would look hideous hung as art
However, I would absolutely love to have an uncut set of Legends or Arabian Nights or even foil Urza's Destiny
I have one and although its big and heavy I'm glad i got it framed. Good for an office or rec room/bar if you have a house. Its pretty sweet cause it has jace right in the middle. What I would really love is a homelands or fallen empire sheet. That would be epic
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I've accumulated quite a few un-cut sheets over the years, including some for games other than Magic (L5R and Magi-Nation). They just seem cool to me, and I always try to buy or trade for Magic un-cut sheets when I get a chance. I stumbled onto this thread to get some inspiration for framing.
The L5R sheet I have is kind of off-balance. There's a huge white margin on the right side. Initially it has the same colored boxes that a Magic sheet does, but after that it's just white space. I think I will have it cut down when I frame it. I guess at that point it isn't mint, but since I'm decorating my game room with it anyway, who cares. Has anyone had this issue with Magic cards? How did you resolve it?
You could easily cover the border with a mat if you're concerned about actually cropping it off. When it's in the frame, nobody will know that the sheet is off center when it's hidden by the mat.
It's generally a good idea to mat what you frame anyway; it just looks better.
That's a good suggestion. Unfortunately, we're talking about a pretty large area...meaning the mat would be equally huge...distractingly so! I really think I'm going to cut it down.
To be clear, when I say "mat", I'm talking about matboard, which is used in a large majority of framing to create a border within the frame. Usually, between 0.5" and 1.5" of matting shows in the final framing. Occasionally, a frame will have multiple mats layered on top of each other for a more tunneled look into the picture/etc.
While a mat on a card sheet would be large, yes, it would be appropriately sized for a frame to fit that same sheet. If the mat is cut correctly, it shouldn't be any more distracting on a large frame than on a small one (in fact, with a larger surface area that mat will be proportionally smaller, and be less distracting).
While it would ultimately be more expensive, I definitely recommend a professional framing job. They'll get the alignment right, they'll cut the matboard correctly, etc. Most craft stores (such as Hobby Lobby) have a frames department which will install your sheet in a frame for you (if they carry a size of frame that it fits in), or they'll even construct a correctly sized frame. I've got two custom frame jobs in my room right now for art I purchased at an auction at an anime convention, and both have double mats. (One had an unprofessional-looking mat done by the original artist, which is masked by the second mat; the other had a well-done mat done by the artist but it simply looks better with the extra mat, and the framer even kept the artist's signature on the original mat visible in the final presentation.) I just dropped off a poster for framing today with a single mat, and this time my piece fit in a frame size the store carried, so no custom frame needed (much cheaper); that said, the frame I'm getting for the poster doesn't have the anti-glare glass that my two custom jobs do, and it really does make a difference especially with the huge window in my room facing the sunrise.
I'll chime in and agree completely. I just had some photos professionally framed, and they look great. Once you reach a certain point in life, you don't want pictures or framed objects to look like they belong in a college dorm room! Unfortunately, I don't think I'm conveying just how off-center the L5R sheet would be. The picture's dimensions would be greatly expanded by matting the whole sheet, white space and all.
A sheet of New Phyrexia wouldn't exactly be something you'd want to put next to little Jimmy's playhouse.
People frame lots of things that were not made as art, such as old maps, archetetcural drawings, and old advertising copy. I fail to see why a framed uncut foil print of multiple small pieces of art is any less worthy of display. I suppose it depends on how much shame and embarrassment you have about playing MtG, but while i probably would not make it the centerpiece of my decorating scheme, neither would I put it in my closet. It is graphic art, plain and simple.
I have an uncut sheet of what I think is Revised, from 1995. This came from the print supervisor at the company that printed them in the Phoenix area. He had no idea what it was, just thought it looked cool. So I am convinced it is real. My sheet looks VERY different from the ones I see on the internet. The cards are duplicated, front and back, with half of the sheet facing one way, the other facing away. So, you see half a sheet of the face cards, and half a sheet of the backs. I have the only remaining copy, the others being destroyed by storms.
To see the other sheets on the internet, I see no printer's alignment marks and such, so am not convinced they are stock sheets, but manufactured 'copies'. I am also sure that Wizards of the Coast had some sheets made special for promotional purposes. These are likely the ones we see.
Actually you probably could get them cut out pretty cheap. Most full-service binderies could cut them out and round the corners in about 10-20 minutes. You just would have to know someone to get it done. Heck a good kinko's may even have all the equipment necessary.
I used to work in a high-volume print shop. It's actually much more difficult than it sounds. First, to do it correctly you need a pneumatic press and the proper cutting die. Even if you have access to this, you need to calibrate and align it which usually means running through several test sheets first. People usually don't have a couple dozen extra Magic sheets to burn just to get the equipment set up. And if you do it without all that, cards that are even slightly off immediately stand out and look/feel wrong.
why not just miscut the hell out of it and say its super rare? lol
There is someone already doing something similar on eBay. For the past couple years they have bought out all of the uncut sheets they can lay hands on and are butchering them. To their credit, they are clearly selling them as not factory cut. I have some and the cutting isn't perfect. But I have already seen several people trying to resell them as factory miscuts. They have already chopped about a dozen sheets that I know of.
They're not the first. In the early days of Magic, Cartamundi used overhead stock to pad their pallets. A few distributors gave/sold these off and some got chopped for funsies. Then later, a ton of Arena lands sheets were given away as prize support and some people fraudulently cut them and tried to sell them as factory miscut.
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It might seem like a neat idea at first, but really... its not
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I dont think this looks all that bad on the wall.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/mtgcom/fcpics/features/458_AlphaSheet.jpg
You could always do something with it. Maybe break it up like the do with modern canvas pieces (not the Beta sheet, but a newer sets sheet).
http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img/item/156/505/599/framed-canvas-oil-painting-modern-abstract-art-gop-020-3e751.jpg
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BUWGR Highlander GRWUB
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Hm... what if we made a glass table that we could slide one of these in between to game with?
They are pretty big. There are 121 cards on the sheet, 11 rows of 11 cards. In addition, there is a border around the edges with color samples, lot and serial numbers and and marking for the printing/cutting machines.
They end up being somewhat bigger than a standard poster. It costs quite a bit to get them framed. Mine was probably $250....on sale.
Well worth it. I have a five uncut sheets from Lord of the Rings TCG....those I will probably sell someday, but I'm keeping my Magic one.
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I have had a bunch of stuff framed. I use www.americanframe.com . I put the figures in for a sheet (that is if I did it correctly) but a frame 28x39 would be around $140. There are probably more custom framing places online, so there are cheaper alternatives out there.
BUWGRChilds PlayGRWUB
BUWGR Highlander GRWUB
UBSquee's Shapeshifting PetBU
BW Multiplayer Control WB
RG Changeling GR
UR Mana FlareRU
UMerfolkU
B MBMC B
Looking for frames for mine. Where'd you get it, and how much was it to get done?
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However, I would absolutely love to have an uncut set of Legends or Arabian Nights or even foil Urza's Destiny
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The L5R sheet I have is kind of off-balance. There's a huge white margin on the right side. Initially it has the same colored boxes that a Magic sheet does, but after that it's just white space. I think I will have it cut down when I frame it. I guess at that point it isn't mint, but since I'm decorating my game room with it anyway, who cares. Has anyone had this issue with Magic cards? How did you resolve it?
It's generally a good idea to mat what you frame anyway; it just looks better.
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While a mat on a card sheet would be large, yes, it would be appropriately sized for a frame to fit that same sheet. If the mat is cut correctly, it shouldn't be any more distracting on a large frame than on a small one (in fact, with a larger surface area that mat will be proportionally smaller, and be less distracting).
While it would ultimately be more expensive, I definitely recommend a professional framing job. They'll get the alignment right, they'll cut the matboard correctly, etc. Most craft stores (such as Hobby Lobby) have a frames department which will install your sheet in a frame for you (if they carry a size of frame that it fits in), or they'll even construct a correctly sized frame. I've got two custom frame jobs in my room right now for art I purchased at an auction at an anime convention, and both have double mats. (One had an unprofessional-looking mat done by the original artist, which is masked by the second mat; the other had a well-done mat done by the artist but it simply looks better with the extra mat, and the framer even kept the artist's signature on the original mat visible in the final presentation.) I just dropped off a poster for framing today with a single mat, and this time my piece fit in a frame size the store carried, so no custom frame needed (much cheaper); that said, the frame I'm getting for the poster doesn't have the anti-glare glass that my two custom jobs do, and it really does make a difference especially with the huge window in my room facing the sunrise.
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People frame lots of things that were not made as art, such as old maps, archetetcural drawings, and old advertising copy. I fail to see why a framed uncut foil print of multiple small pieces of art is any less worthy of display. I suppose it depends on how much shame and embarrassment you have about playing MtG, but while i probably would not make it the centerpiece of my decorating scheme, neither would I put it in my closet. It is graphic art, plain and simple.
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To see the other sheets on the internet, I see no printer's alignment marks and such, so am not convinced they are stock sheets, but manufactured 'copies'. I am also sure that Wizards of the Coast had some sheets made special for promotional purposes. These are likely the ones we see.
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I used to work in a high-volume print shop. It's actually much more difficult than it sounds. First, to do it correctly you need a pneumatic press and the proper cutting die. Even if you have access to this, you need to calibrate and align it which usually means running through several test sheets first. People usually don't have a couple dozen extra Magic sheets to burn just to get the equipment set up. And if you do it without all that, cards that are even slightly off immediately stand out and look/feel wrong.
There is someone already doing something similar on eBay. For the past couple years they have bought out all of the uncut sheets they can lay hands on and are butchering them. To their credit, they are clearly selling them as not factory cut. I have some and the cutting isn't perfect. But I have already seen several people trying to resell them as factory miscuts. They have already chopped about a dozen sheets that I know of.
They're not the first. In the early days of Magic, Cartamundi used overhead stock to pad their pallets. A few distributors gave/sold these off and some got chopped for funsies. Then later, a ton of Arena lands sheets were given away as prize support and some people fraudulently cut them and tried to sell them as factory miscut.
I attached a few of my after-market cut recent acquisitions.
Every English card ever printed: 99.02%
Arabian Nights through Lorwyn: Complete
Alpha: 94.2% Beta: 95.0%
Unlimited through M10: Complete