I bought one sealed at retail then me and two other friends bought another 1 and drafted it. I ended up with Bolas, Shivan, Kukush, Thunder and Form of Dragon.
Ha! You talk about having fun with distributors. Well, my comic book shop that I work with pre-ordered 4 of them when it was initially offered, and then ordered 3-4 more about six weeks ago. Wanna know how many the shop received? ZERO. FREAKIN' ZERO. I couldn't believe it. They told him that he "didn't order enough product," so they went to other stores. Wow....generally, when you order and pay for product, you should get it. And I'm pretty sure he went through a distributor, even though he said he went through WotC. If he did go through WotC, well, shame on them.
Any of you who live with a bunch of them interested in buying and shipping for retail price?
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These things are insanely under-printed. Our shop is getting 4 total and our distributor ended up raising the price at the last second so we had to pass that along to the customers. We order a lot of Magic almost exclusively through Wizards, but we couldn't even up our order to get a few for our Red-Headed Step-Child second shop.
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Our store got only three, and that was all. Ours is a small shop though, and with a small magic group. I was asking about FTV: Dragons from the minute it was announced, and it payed off in that I got one of the three. The other two sold almost instantly.
Upside? These will have ongoing value. Period. Unless WotC releases another batch in response to demand, they will always hold value due to scarcity.
So what did I do with them? I had planned on playing them, but they are just too nice. So, I opened it, put the dragons in dragonshields, and they sit together in a special display with some of my other prized foils, resealed package alongside it.
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Note, our store just got another order sheet for From the Vault: Dragons today or yesterday. Which means there WILL be more. They said it is their second order form.
I am sitting on 7.
Can anyone tell me if what this guy is saying is true? I do not know if I want to make a choice based on what one guy on the forums says. (also the logic of his posts seem erratic. If it was one person I trusted on the forums I would, but I am not sure here.)
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I called a store owner I really trust. He said he heard nothing of the sort, and that he could not find out until sometime next week anyway.
Looking at starcity's website, (which we all know is basically wizards biggest customer) They seem convinced, just reading their adds, that there will not be more.
Also, this guys post was on Saturday. I did not think that wizards order forms came on Saturday or Friday.
Well, thats what he told us during FNM he said don't worry if you did not get one ... we have another order form to get more soon. I'n just relaying what I heard.
Thanks for the erratic comment btw.
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I ended up goign back to get the stores last 3
and he had 20 more sitting behind the counter.
I have 10 now, but i am wondering if it is worth buyign them all??
What I can say is that the fact that stores in Europe (I assume you are from the flag) seem to have many, MANY more shipped in. You're not the first to mention that a store in Europe has 'dozens in stock' and I'm wondering if WotC merely decided X for the US and Y for Europe, ignoring the fact that there are MANY more stores in the US or someone just decided to send them all overseas...
Well, thats what he told us during FNM he said don't worry if you did not get one ... we have another order form to get more soon. I'n just relaying what I heard.
Thanks for the erratic comment btw.
There have been no more solicitations for this product. Period.
Please use the Edit button instead of double-posting. Warning issued.
Lets just say a few of your other posts made me question the validity of that one, and not take it on faith that you were right. (Your fuller explanation was much better. You store owner could have just been planning on buying more from a secondary distributor, not from wizards. You just posted your end conclusion, not the reasoning that got you there. Having the reasoning makes everything much better.)
As of right now I am planning on sitting on the 7 boxes I have. I would like it if any of the other store owners could tell me about what they know about re-orders.
As of right now I am planning on sitting on the 7 boxes I have. I would like it if any of the other store owners could tell me about what they know about re-orders.
I did..;-)
I have 4 main-line distributors that I deal with (all in the midwest). These are companies that buy directly from WotC. They all wish they had more to sell me, they have none.. WotC has also zero (well, that they are selling. I'm sure they were more than smart enough to stockpile for prizes and such in the future).
No mention, at all, of re-prints or re-orders has occured from any of those 5 sources...
This is really not the place for this kind of discussion.
Look, if I have offended you, I am sorry.
I have only seen a small sampling of your posts at the time I made that statement. The ones I did see were hyperbole. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=3110600&highlight=#post3110600
You seemed like a very hard line guy. I mean look at your post. Apparently, you did not have any real information about a reprinting, but you were very adamant that there "WILL be more."
You really should not take it personally, I have not had much dealings with you and did not want to make the economic decision of selling mine this week just based on your word that there would be a reprinting. If you look at Gryfalia's posts you see that he gave me more information about how he came by his knowledge, and over all it seems like I should listen to him over you.
If you were right, I would want to sell all of mine THIS WEEK, but if you are wrong I would want to hang on to them.
These dragons from the vault represents a $200+ investment in my part, I would like to make the right choice about them. I do not think you were TRYING to screw me, but your hastily made post could have. (I almost put them on ebay on the spot, until I took a step back and thought about it.)
I have just done a search of your posts, and some of them are quite thought out, and others are not. Sorry, but that is the simple truth.
This decision on my part has to be an informed one, you understand.
If you would like to talk further on this issue, please feel free to PM me or go to my extendo.
just in my dealings with getting these most of the stores here had maybe 3 and they said they dont plan on getting more in, the most one of the stores here had was 4, so if im guessing right in jacksonville florida, between all the stores i called that had them or were sold out there was less then 20, were talking about 7 stores and only 20 between all of them. plus 2 of the stores i mentioned were supposed to be receiving them this week and hoping to get 3. So with my dealings it seems on average most shops got 3, this might be different for your location, these are just some of the facts ive come up with.
The guys who organize our FNM in my Town (pop: 100'000) each got a set from the store owner. This morning I thought I should have a look at the store...and he told me that he had ordered 'some'...
Okay, I grabbed 2 on the spot and went to the grocery store to do my 'weekly routine' and while waiting at the cashier thought about getting more sets...So, I went back and got 2 more (all he had)...
With the one ordered I now have 5 sets and will save them...
This 'spare' situation seems a lot like the Legends-Booster-Desaster in 94...Except, here they won't produce more.
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There will be no reorders, period. I do all the ordering for my boss's store, and we were only allowed 2 directly from WOTC. Larger buying volume stores could get a max of 6 from wotc. Some distributors had some, but you couldn't just "buy" them. You had to buy so many cases of magic to be able to order them. I do not know how many they had, but I imagine that they are all likely sold out or near sold out and being able to reorder from them is highly unlikely. So unless WOTC makes another print run, I don't see there being any more available for stores to order.
There will be no reorders, period. I do all the ordering for my boss's store, and we were only allowed 2 directly from WOTC. Larger buying volume stores could get a max of 6 from wotc.
Minor correction, Gold stores could order 8, Silver 4, Bronze 2.
Minor correction, Gold stores could order 8, Silver 4, Bronze 2.
That's not what wotc told us in either an email or phone call, i forget which. *shrugs* if a gold store managed to get 8, they were lucky then i suppose.
That's not what wotc told us in either an email or phone call, i forget which. *shrugs* if a gold store managed to get 8, they were lucky then i suppose.
Erm, no, that's the way it was in every communications via email that WotC sent. And for that matter in phone calls (to actually make the orders). Assuming you're in the US, of course, no clue outside the US.
Tho I can say it's been entertaining watching stores just flat-out lie on their websites. Just found one that says 'As a Gold store I was only allocated 2!'
I managed to buy one box for $50 dollars from one of my local stores and another at retail price from another local store whose owner I know very well. I couldn't resist opening one, so one sealed box is my investment I guess.
The first store I checked recieved 4 and the other recieved 8.
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Erm, no, that's the way it was in every communications via email that WotC sent. And for that matter in phone calls (to actually make the orders). Assuming you're in the US, of course, no clue outside the US.
Tho I can say it's been entertaining watching stores just flat-out lie on their websites. Just found one that says 'As a Gold store I was only allocated 2!'
i'm in the Us, i'm positive that is what i was told, but it's a moot point since we're lot gold level anyway. it's still an obscenely low amount. we're bronze and shall remain bronze since wotc does not make anything in any category other than trading cards that we can sell, minis and publishing is very hard to sell out our way, the new D&D 4th ed being the rare exception. wotc claims that pushed us into silver tier for last quarter, but i don't quite believe them since the last time they claimed we made silver they later told us "oh no that was a mistake and a typeo in the email." -_-;
Checked a store in New Mexico today and they got eight. All had been gone within minutes of delivery apparently. Looks like I'll have to go online to get one.
I ordered six at $70 each. I hope I get them. Sounds like a decent profit if I sit on them and no more are made. Maybe I'll pop 4 for a playset of everything. I'll wait to see how things shake out on ebay for prices.
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Can anyone tell me if what this guy is saying is true? I do not know if I want to make a choice based on what one guy on the forums says. (also the logic of his posts seem erratic. If it was one person I trusted on the forums I would, but I am not sure here.)
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I called a store owner I really trust. He said he heard nothing of the sort, and that he could not find out until sometime next week anyway.
Looking at starcity's website, (which we all know is basically wizards biggest customer) They seem convinced, just reading their adds, that there will not be more.
Also, this guys post was on Saturday. I did not think that wizards order forms came on Saturday or Friday.
Thanks for the erratic comment btw.
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What I can say is that the fact that stores in Europe (I assume you are from the flag) seem to have many, MANY more shipped in. You're not the first to mention that a store in Europe has 'dozens in stock' and I'm wondering if WotC merely decided X for the US and Y for Europe, ignoring the fact that there are MANY more stores in the US or someone just decided to send them all overseas...
There have been no more solicitations for this product. Period.
Please use the Edit button instead of double-posting. Warning issued.
Lets just say a few of your other posts made me question the validity of that one, and not take it on faith that you were right. (Your fuller explanation was much better. You store owner could have just been planning on buying more from a secondary distributor, not from wizards. You just posted your end conclusion, not the reasoning that got you there. Having the reasoning makes everything much better.)
As of right now I am planning on sitting on the 7 boxes I have. I would like it if any of the other store owners could tell me about what they know about re-orders.
I did..;-)
I have 4 main-line distributors that I deal with (all in the midwest). These are companies that buy directly from WotC. They all wish they had more to sell me, they have none.. WotC has also zero (well, that they are selling. I'm sure they were more than smart enough to stockpile for prizes and such in the future).
No mention, at all, of re-prints or re-orders has occured from any of those 5 sources...
Gryfalia
Thank you for that bit more. It gives me some piece of mind about the ones I have.
And which ones would those be?
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Look, if I have offended you, I am sorry.
I have only seen a small sampling of your posts at the time I made that statement. The ones I did see were hyperbole.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=3110600&highlight=#post3110600
You seemed like a very hard line guy. I mean look at your post. Apparently, you did not have any real information about a reprinting, but you were very adamant that there "WILL be more."
You really should not take it personally, I have not had much dealings with you and did not want to make the economic decision of selling mine this week just based on your word that there would be a reprinting. If you look at Gryfalia's posts you see that he gave me more information about how he came by his knowledge, and over all it seems like I should listen to him over you.
If you were right, I would want to sell all of mine THIS WEEK, but if you are wrong I would want to hang on to them.
These dragons from the vault represents a $200+ investment in my part, I would like to make the right choice about them. I do not think you were TRYING to screw me, but your hastily made post could have. (I almost put them on ebay on the spot, until I took a step back and thought about it.)
I have just done a search of your posts, and some of them are quite thought out, and others are not. Sorry, but that is the simple truth.
This decision on my part has to be an informed one, you understand.
If you would like to talk further on this issue, please feel free to PM me or go to my extendo.
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Okay, I grabbed 2 on the spot and went to the grocery store to do my 'weekly routine' and while waiting at the cashier thought about getting more sets...So, I went back and got 2 more (all he had)...
With the one ordered I now have 5 sets and will save them...
This 'spare' situation seems a lot like the Legends-Booster-Desaster in 94...Except, here they won't produce more.
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Minor correction, Gold stores could order 8, Silver 4, Bronze 2.
That's not what wotc told us in either an email or phone call, i forget which. *shrugs* if a gold store managed to get 8, they were lucky then i suppose.
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Erm, no, that's the way it was in every communications via email that WotC sent. And for that matter in phone calls (to actually make the orders). Assuming you're in the US, of course, no clue outside the US.
Tho I can say it's been entertaining watching stores just flat-out lie on their websites. Just found one that says 'As a Gold store I was only allocated 2!'
The first store I checked recieved 4 and the other recieved 8.
i'm in the Us, i'm positive that is what i was told, but it's a moot point since we're lot gold level anyway. it's still an obscenely low amount. we're bronze and shall remain bronze since wotc does not make anything in any category other than trading cards that we can sell, minis and publishing is very hard to sell out our way, the new D&D 4th ed being the rare exception. wotc claims that pushed us into silver tier for last quarter, but i don't quite believe them since the last time they claimed we made silver they later told us "oh no that was a mistake and a typeo in the email." -_-;
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And if I could cry,
And if I could live,
What truth I did then take me there,
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