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The timing in another incident was not as good. On his second turn a player tried to play Briarberry Cohort... But accidentally he put down Isleback Spawn---quite the good play on turn two! Neither he nor his opponent realized the mistake and when they finally called over a judge two turns later, it was determined that the player did not intentionally pick the wrong card and that the gamestate would remain uncorrected.
What? How exactly in a serious tournament like a Grand Prix do you possibly fail to realize something's wrong when in a limited format your opponent plays an ISLEBACK SPAWN on the SECOND TURN? Okay, maybe that's possible, but how exactly do BOTH players fail to realize until TWO TURNS later? How exactly are both players unable to distinguish between a 4/8 and a 1/1? How exactly do you fail to realize you're attacking with a 4/8 on third turn? How exactly do you fail to realize your opponent is smacking you in the face with a 4/8 on third turn?
And what's with that ruling? So players just get to keep giant monsters in play that they play on second turn?
Seriously...if this situation has been accurately described, those are two of the worst (or at least most inattentive) players I've ever heard about at a Grand Prix.
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well rememebr the gps are OPEN events.. meaning anyone can join them. and if that is what happened theres got to eb some cheating somewere there.. unless they are both ubar noobzorz
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I bet we have a case of Jon Finkel sleeping with the girl, then never calling her again and she going bat #%^% crazy and writing this article case closed.
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well, Player B just took Player A's word as truth, and was probably spending most of his time studying his cards in hand instead of the field. I'm betting Player A realized his mistake soon enough, but since it was unintentional in the first place, it's not intentionally cheating (there's no way to prove when he realized it) and Tournament policy only allows for turning back the game if the error occured within the last turn.
Sure, stuff like Snapping Drake and Goblin Piker are for limited. But Null isn't even playable against a 5 year old whose hand consists of a 6 of Clubs, Blue-Eyes White Dragon, Chimney Imp, and a very large cumquat.
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Not a Grand Prix, but this urban legend has been passed around a couple years.
It was a vintage tournament, and some kid brought a deck using the godlike combo of Polluted Delta and Island Fish Jasconius. Apparently, the head judge reviewed the combo, accepted that Island Fish Jasconius was an Island, and declared the combo valid.
Never failed to make me chuckle after all these years.
Yep. The Island Fish had "Island" in its typeline, and polluted delta allows the fetching of Islands. It was erratad to just be a fish, but apparently this was pre-errata.
i mean we have all dropped the wrong card on the field at one point or another, but most of us probably quickly noticed it and quickly scooped the card back into our hand and played the correct card. i thought if it was a game altering move that neither caught it was a penalty of some sort on the player that cast the spell. i have seen before where they gave a guy a game loss because he made an illegal play and they didnt catch it until later. i know with the shadowmoor recently it was going on alot, most people didnt read conspire closely and see you have to tap creatures that share a color type with the card.
I played in a GP only 6 days after getting a DCI number..... still amazed I won a game. I must have opened the nuts
So 1 the players could be inexperienced or 2 the players could be tired...maybe they were up all night playing trials to try and get byes or other into other fun stuff that goes on at a gp like super FNM etc
Odd. I got a game loss for accidentally doing that.
TSP, played a morph, then realized a turn or so later that the morph was in my hand and that I had just played Cancel (or something similar) as a morph. I flipped it up, saying "Vesuvan Shapeshifter, copying your..." And that's as far as I got before my opponent said, "That's a Cancel." I followed up with "Oh, crap, it's supposed to be this guy." and laid down the Shapeshifter and picked up my Cancel.
A judge was called and I got a game loss. It was pretty disheartening to me, since that was like my third tournament ever.
that is the funniest thing EVER.
And dont mind me, I have dropped a Wren's run packmaster instead of a llanowar elves on turn one or a mutavault instead of nameles inversion, but I see it right away, and sadly, it never takes long to notice it because i dont "narate" my actions like some players do..
What? How exactly in a serious tournament like a Grand Prix do you possibly fail to realize something's wrong when in a limited format your opponent plays an ISLEBACK SPAWN on the SECOND TURN? Okay, maybe that's possible, but how exactly do BOTH players fail to realize until TWO TURNS later? How exactly are both players unable to distinguish between a 4/8 and a 1/1? How exactly do you fail to realize you're attacking with a 4/8 on third turn? How exactly do you fail to realize your opponent is smacking you in the face with a 4/8 on third turn?
And what's with that ruling? So players just get to keep giant monsters in play that they play on second turn?
Seriously...if this situation has been accurately described, those are two of the worst (or at least most inattentive) players I've ever heard about at a Grand Prix.
- Jon Finkel believes in maintaining a healthy, balanced diet. He gets all his fiber from eating Magic cards for breakfast, and all his protein from eating Magic players for lunch.
First PTQ top 8 6/13/09(1st)
Second PTQ top 8 10/7/09(5th)
Second at national Qualifier 5/15/10
Third PTQ top 8 2/12/11 (2nd)
Second at Alberta 2011's
Fourth PTQ top 8 3/17/12(8th)
GP Vancouver 2012 (18th)
Rediculous, but hey, rules are rules.
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Teaching without verbosity,
producing without possessing,
creating without regard to result,
claiming nothing,
the Sage has nothing to lose.
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It was a vintage tournament, and some kid brought a deck using the godlike combo of Polluted Delta and Island Fish Jasconius. Apparently, the head judge reviewed the combo, accepted that Island Fish Jasconius was an Island, and declared the combo valid.
Never failed to make me chuckle after all these years.
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"play cohort, pass."
"irrelevant action, pass."
"attack with my 1/1", "WTF IT'S A 4/8!!?? JUDGE!!!"
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So 1 the players could be inexperienced or 2 the players could be tired...maybe they were up all night playing trials to try and get byes or other into other fun stuff that goes on at a gp like super FNM etc
TSP, played a morph, then realized a turn or so later that the morph was in my hand and that I had just played Cancel (or something similar) as a morph. I flipped it up, saying "Vesuvan Shapeshifter, copying your..." And that's as far as I got before my opponent said, "That's a Cancel." I followed up with "Oh, crap, it's supposed to be this guy." and laid down the Shapeshifter and picked up my Cancel.
A judge was called and I got a game loss. It was pretty disheartening to me, since that was like my third tournament ever.
that is the funniest thing EVER.
And dont mind me, I have dropped a Wren's run packmaster instead of a llanowar elves on turn one or a mutavault instead of nameles inversion, but I see it right away, and sadly, it never takes long to notice it because i dont "narate" my actions like some players do..
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