I think that Wave of Light and Boon of Storms, and Alstras's Retinue looked exciting anyway.
all 3 are good cards. none of them are exciting.
for example, as good as your Boons are, the Hondens were better and had the excitement factor of playing well together.
Wave of Tides 2UU
Instant (R)
Tap all creatures your opponents control. Untap all creatures you control. The tide comes in on one shore, while it goes out on another.
Wave of Life 2GG
Instant (R)
Lands you control become 2/2 creatures until end of turn. They are still lands. "All earth teems with life. It is little matter to make the earth itself alive." - Avol Madeli, Disciple of Life
Also, first post has been updated with every card I have art for, as well as some new additons: The Swords.
Wave of Tides is better but Wave of Life's been done and is too one-sided.
i was doing some thinking and a lot of Magic's cycles are cool because of the way you play them, more than what they actually do sometimes. i've already mentioned the Hondens, but think about the Leylines too which are free at the start, and the Beacons which go back to the library, the Bringers with their alternat casting cost, and now we've got Harbingers which do something really sexy that's directly tied to flavor.
what if your boons had this text on them (to go along with the "newness" of the plane)
"If there are no enchantments in play and no enchantment cards in any graveyard, you may play ~ without paying its mana cost."
now that's sexy!
I think that Mind Trick may be a bit too powerful, but I guessing that it was designed before Threads of Disloyality.
Oh and the sword of chaos and order needs to be able to work. I think that the wording of the original light and shadow sword will do it.
Maybe the black god should have a upkeep trigger of forcing target opponent to sac a permenent unless he/she discards a card. The current ability reminds me to much of Patron of the Nezumi.
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Turn one Mountain, Boon of Storms, Mogg Fanatic. No. Free mechanics tend toward broken. The leylines were designed not to be win conditions on their own because of that.
What's wrong with Sword of Chaos and Order?
Mind Trick was designed after threads, but I had forgotten about threads. Call it parallel evolution. However, threads never saw too much play. I think mind trick is ok.
Patron of the Nezumi was the basis of Moresil's ability, because I didn't have better ideas. But with the permanent saccing or discard every turn, Moresil generates more card advantage than the other Gods (Except maybe a machine-gunning Alstras.) Maybe both players discard? (Also, I'm thinking of switching Alstras's ability back to just 'target creature' instead of 'or player' to keep him from winning too fast.)
Turn one Mountain, Boon of Storms, Mogg Fanatic. No. Free mechanics tend toward broken. The leylines were designed not to be win conditions on their own because of that.
look. yes, the Boon of Storms might be too powerful to be able to be free cast, but then in that case it would be better to go back and weaken it to keep the sexiness. i'm not saying you must use my particular idea, but i do think you have to put something in these cards that make them different and exciting.
but i don't want to beat a dead horse. in the end, the only person you have make happy is yourself. you design balanced cards, but boring ones that nobody'd be excited to play. this will be my last post in this thread unless you actually do something interesting with this set.
I can certainly do that. Which part of the Viper is it that you love, so I can make sure not to make the 'better' version something you wouldn't like? From your sig, I would assume that you just liked the fact it was a metal snake.
You guessed it. I like the flavor text too.
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You could make it so that it is a Braids style effect with an unless that player discards a card clause.
Also, did you notice my comment on the wording of sword of chaos and order? You need an" you may remove up to one enchantment from the game...." in order for the card to work if there are no enchantmens in play.
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I think I'll do the Braids effect, with discard option. I always liked abyss effects as drawbacks on black fatties.
Hrmm. I had worded the Sword that way intentionally, when I had a different red effect and was cutting length to avoid microtext. But now that I have space back, I think you're right. 'May' plays better.
Ezra, how's this: The bite of the steelviper is at once fire and ice: Chilling steel and burning venom.
Riddle, I suppose you're right that I design balanced cards (though, don't be misled by the FCC submissions, they're deliberately not aimed over the curve). I understand if you don't want to keep beating a dead horse, as you put it. However, I will keep posting new cards, and if you see something you like, then hopefully you'll rejoin the discussion.
Everyone: Suggestions for a better white Boon effect? Better names for the 'Innocence' mechanic? I will be working on making Innocence and Purity cards for the next week or two, so things you'd like to see?
Gods now cost 3CCC to make them more aggressive.
Moresil has new ability.
A cycle of common 'Purity' cards.
A cycle (in name only) of common 'Innocence' cards, with a new mechanic name - 'Primal'.
Wording on Sword of Order and Chaos has been updated.
Venomous Steelviper has been added, since it's basically been previewed.
Set distribution has been updated slightly: One common of each color was moved into artifact. This is because the artifact part of the file was almost full and I wanted more extraplanar artifacts.
Good lord! Has it really been five months since I updated? Grad school is completely eating my life. Haven't made too much progress building the set, either.
Here's a few new ones:
Conjoined Mechanism 5
Artifact Creature - Construct (C)
When ~ is put into a graveyard from play, you may put three 1/1 Construct artifact creature tokens into play.
3/3
Spellbomb Fragments 1
Artifact (C)
Spellbomb Fragments comes into play with three charge counters on it. ,T, Remove a charge counter from Spellbomb Fragments: Draw a card. Their forms shattered, and magic expended, a spellbomb’s incscription is still legible.
Child of the Soil 1G
Creature - Human Druid (C) T:AddG to your mana pool.
When Child of the Soil is put into a graveyard from play, you may search your library for a Forest card and put it into play tapped. If you do, shuffle your library. On Levalon, humanity mastered the channeling of mana before the elves.
1/1
Unbirth 3B
Instant (U)
Remove target non-artifact creature from the game. There are things worse than death.
Leashed Drake 3U
Creature - Drake (U)
Defender, flying
If you control a Bird, ~ loses defender. The aven keep many guardian beasts, but none as elegant as the drake.
4/3
Due to MaRo's announcement of the reduction in set sizes and the introduction of 'Mythic Rare', the set distibution of Lost Relics is being adjusted. The new breakdown is as follows:
all 3 are good cards. none of them are exciting.
for example, as good as your Boons are, the Hondens were better and had the excitement factor of playing well together.
Evacuation fits 'tides' bigtime! here's a blue 'tides' themed Evacuation-alike:
Tidal Wash
2UU
Sorcery
For each creature in play, return that creature to it's owner's hand unless its controller pays U or 2.
Wave of Tides 2UU
Instant (R)
Tap all creatures your opponents control. Untap all creatures you control.
The tide comes in on one shore, while it goes out on another.
Wave of Life 2GG
Instant (R)
Lands you control become 2/2 creatures until end of turn. They are still lands.
"All earth teems with life. It is little matter to make the earth itself alive."
- Avol Madeli, Disciple of Life
Also, first post has been updated with every card I have art for, as well as some new additons: The Swords.
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i was doing some thinking and a lot of Magic's cycles are cool because of the way you play them, more than what they actually do sometimes. i've already mentioned the Hondens, but think about the Leylines too which are free at the start, and the Beacons which go back to the library, the Bringers with their alternat casting cost, and now we've got Harbingers which do something really sexy that's directly tied to flavor.
what if your boons had this text on them (to go along with the "newness" of the plane)
"If there are no enchantments in play and no enchantment cards in any graveyard, you may play ~ without paying its mana cost."
now that's sexy!
I think that Mind Trick may be a bit too powerful, but I guessing that it was designed before Threads of Disloyality.
Oh and the sword of chaos and order needs to be able to work. I think that the wording of the original light and shadow sword will do it.
Maybe the black god should have a upkeep trigger of forcing target opponent to sac a permenent unless he/she discards a card. The current ability reminds me to much of Patron of the Nezumi.
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What's wrong with Sword of Chaos and Order?
Mind Trick was designed after threads, but I had forgotten about threads. Call it parallel evolution. However, threads never saw too much play. I think mind trick is ok.
Patron of the Nezumi was the basis of Moresil's ability, because I didn't have better ideas. But with the permanent saccing or discard every turn, Moresil generates more card advantage than the other Gods (Except maybe a machine-gunning Alstras.) Maybe both players discard? (Also, I'm thinking of switching Alstras's ability back to just 'target creature' instead of 'or player' to keep him from winning too fast.)
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look. yes, the Boon of Storms might be too powerful to be able to be free cast, but then in that case it would be better to go back and weaken it to keep the sexiness. i'm not saying you must use my particular idea, but i do think you have to put something in these cards that make them different and exciting.
but i don't want to beat a dead horse. in the end, the only person you have make happy is yourself. you design balanced cards, but boring ones that nobody'd be excited to play. this will be my last post in this thread unless you actually do something interesting with this set.
You guessed it. I like the flavor text too.
Thanks to High~Light Studios for the awesome sig. Go check'em out!
Also, did you notice my comment on the wording of sword of chaos and order? You need an" you may remove up to one enchantment from the game...." in order for the card to work if there are no enchantmens in play.
Butcher of Words.
Made by Spiderboy4
Hrmm. I had worded the Sword that way intentionally, when I had a different red effect and was cutting length to avoid microtext. But now that I have space back, I think you're right. 'May' plays better.
Ezra, how's this: The bite of the steelviper is at once fire and ice: Chilling steel and burning venom.
Riddle, I suppose you're right that I design balanced cards (though, don't be misled by the FCC submissions, they're deliberately not aimed over the curve). I understand if you don't want to keep beating a dead horse, as you put it. However, I will keep posting new cards, and if you see something you like, then hopefully you'll rejoin the discussion.
Everyone: Suggestions for a better white Boon effect? Better names for the 'Innocence' mechanic? I will be working on making Innocence and Purity cards for the next week or two, so things you'd like to see?
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Gods now cost 3CCC to make them more aggressive.
Moresil has new ability.
A cycle of common 'Purity' cards.
A cycle (in name only) of common 'Innocence' cards, with a new mechanic name - 'Primal'.
Wording on Sword of Order and Chaos has been updated.
Venomous Steelviper has been added, since it's basically been previewed.
Set distribution has been updated slightly: One common of each color was moved into artifact. This is because the artifact part of the file was almost full and I wanted more extraplanar artifacts.
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Here's a few new ones:
Conjoined Mechanism 5
Artifact Creature - Construct (C)
When ~ is put into a graveyard from play, you may put three 1/1 Construct artifact creature tokens into play.
3/3
Spellbomb Fragments 1
Artifact (C)
Spellbomb Fragments comes into play with three charge counters on it.
,T, Remove a charge counter from Spellbomb Fragments: Draw a card.
Their forms shattered, and magic expended, a spellbomb’s incscription is still legible.
Child of the Soil 1G
Creature - Human Druid (C)
T:AddG to your mana pool.
When Child of the Soil is put into a graveyard from play, you may search your library for a Forest card and put it into play tapped. If you do, shuffle your library.
On Levalon, humanity mastered the channeling of mana before the elves.
1/1
Unbirth 3B
Instant (U)
Remove target non-artifact creature from the game.
There are things worse than death.
Leashed Drake 3U
Creature - Drake (U)
Defender, flying
If you control a Bird, ~ loses defender.
The aven keep many guardian beasts, but none as elegant as the drake.
4/3
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249 Cards (Down 57)
20 basic lands
101 Commons (Down 9)
60 Uncommons (Down 28)
53 Rares (Down 35)
15 Mythic Rares (Up 15)
13 Land - 3 Common - 6 Uncommon - 4 Rare (+2, +1, 0)
36 Red - 17 Common - 8 Uncommon - 8 Rare — 3 Mythic Rare (-2, -6, -7, + 3)
36 Green - 17 Common - 8 Uncommon - 8 Rare — 3 Mythic Rare (-2, -6, -7, + 3)
36 White - 17 Common - 8 Uncommon - 8 Rare — 3 Mythic Rare (-2, -6, -7, + 3)
36 Blue - 17 Common - 8 Uncommon - 8 Rare — 3 Mythic Rare (-2, -6, -7, + 3)
36 Black - 17 Common - 8 Uncommon - 8 Rare — 3 Mythic Rare (-2, -6, -7, + 3)
36 Artifact - 13 Common - 14 Uncommon - 9 Rare (-1, +1, 0)
This does two things: It brings the set in line with modern design, and it brings me 57 cards closer to finishing.
Please, check my math, in case something doesn't line up.
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