I still think it should have been fully multicoloured, rather than hybrid. I can't find justification for removal this strong in mono-blue. But otherwise, very cool card, and certainly more realistic than a lot of these YMTCs.
Wow. This is WAY undercosted. The cantripping on it is just so powerful. It would be good without it. IT could even be constructed playable without the cantrip, and yet it has it.
It is probably undercosted and shouldn't cantrip. Hybrid does make it strong, and it may not be common. But the mob has voted - I guess if you want to point these things out, you'll have to come in earlier.
It is probably undercosted and shouldn't cantrip. Hybrid does make it strong, and it may not be common. But the mob has voted - I guess if you want to point these things out, you'll have to come in earlier.
Mods decided it was common. And I'm pretty sure people voted for the hybrid choice simply because 1WU wasn't an option.
Technically your opponent doesn't lose a card, he undoes a draw. Probably Path to exile is way better than this almost all the time, so I think it's balanced after all
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Technically, your opponent does lose a card. Unless he's playing something like Survival of the Fittest, or your control deck wins on turn 40, the card in the library might as well be exiled.
This is pretty hideously powerful. I feel comfortable saying that Legacy Merfolk (mono blue) would run 4 of this.
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Absurdly undercosted. The card is a terminate for one extra mana that is easier on the colors and removes the creatures for good. It should cost at least four mana for constructed purposes and at common would be extremely powerful in limited.
As is, I see every U or W standard deck that could play this card playing 4 copies and decks skewing towards U and W just to be able to play it.
Absurdly undercosted. The card is a terminate for one extra mana that is easier on the colors and removes the creatures for good. It should cost at least four mana for constructed purposes and at common would be extremely powerful in limited.
As is, I see every U or W standard deck that could play this card playing 4 copies and decks skewing towards U and W just to be able to play it.
Who plays 4 mana removal?
It's a little OP but not as much as people are saying.
Lose the cantrip and/or make it :1mana::symw::symu: and it's fine imo.
Pretty sure that white's had better removal than this before: Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are both way better than this. Three mana is very expensive for removal outside of limited, where this might be a bit good at common. As with some comments above, not really sure why this is blue. Blue rarely puts creatures anywhere except back into hands...
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I like this card it is nifty but dont like the casting cost. It should not be hybrid, either multicolor it or monocolor it. I think this could be doable as a real card
I don't think this could be costed at anything less than WU
i think without the cantrip this cost is reasonable
at 1WU i think the cantrip is fair
without the cantrip 1:symuw::symuw: is reasonable because 2 would be a joke to splash even though this card is comparable to oblivion ring
also 1:symuw::symuw: is slightly easier to cast than unmake with a slightly weaker effect
at it's current cost with the cantrip the card is ridiculously good
i also believe that even with the cantrip moving the card to 4CMC would make the card too weak
This just broke the color pie. If gave mono-u an answer to problem creatures already on the field. Normally they have to bounce and counter, or permanently tap it down.
The draw a card was completely unnecessary. Unmake is a similar version, but much weaker because it doesn't have a cantrip.
That being said, white has much better removal. StP is disgustingly good.
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Honestly Path is way better than this, even with the cantrip I don't think it's that powerful. People run so many fetches that the creature you bounce might just get shuffled back to the top and then what? You slowed them down a turn and drew a card for 3 CMC. It's really good, but not broken good.
The power level issue is still being discussed, but I have a different question - what would happen if you cast this card while a Leonin Arbiter was in play?
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Mods decided it was common. And I'm pretty sure people voted for the hybrid choice simply because 1WU wasn't an option.
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Technically your opponent doesn't lose a card, he undoes a draw. Probably Path to exile is way better than this almost all the time, so I think it's balanced after all
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This is pretty hideously powerful. I feel comfortable saying that Legacy Merfolk (mono blue) would run 4 of this.
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As is, I see every U or W standard deck that could play this card playing 4 copies and decks skewing towards U and W just to be able to play it.
Who plays 4 mana removal?
It's a little OP but not as much as people are saying.
Lose the cantrip and/or make it :1mana::symw::symu: and it's fine imo.
Make it 4 mana and it's useless.
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The difference in Counterspell and Cancel is just 1, and those cards aren't close.
Making this 4cmc makes it unplayble, so the solution is 1WU and I say add sorcery speed. Cantrip is huge, and putting it on removal is nuts.
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i think without the cantrip this cost is reasonable
at 1WU i think the cantrip is fair
without the cantrip 1:symuw::symuw: is reasonable because 2 would be a joke to splash even though this card is comparable to oblivion ring
also 1:symuw::symuw: is slightly easier to cast than unmake with a slightly weaker effect
at it's current cost with the cantrip the card is ridiculously good
i also believe that even with the cantrip moving the card to 4CMC would make the card too weak
The draw a card was completely unnecessary. Unmake is a similar version, but much weaker because it doesn't have a cantrip.
That being said, white has much better removal. StP is disgustingly good.
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