With the imminent end of Penguinwriter's Challenge, and the relative inactivity of the custom set thread compared to this one, I am taking a page out of BlackBull's book and enlisting you, the forum gamer, to help me design, flavorize, and develop my set. This game will be a meldification between BlackBull's card competitions, the we make the set competition, and the neverending duel.
I will post a prompt for the sort of card I need for the set and how many submissions I want for that particular prompt (the more complex prompts will probably ask for more various submissions.)
I will not be putting these up to polls, but judging them myself, then posting the next prompt, meaning the entire game can stay within this thread.
Of course, in the spirit of the neverending duel, I will keep track of who has won how many card selections. Also, sometimes I will modify even the winning card to better fit the set.
That said, here is a link to the set thread: Safeguard
If you are, understandably so, not keen to go through the whole thing, here are the key things for individual card design:
New Keyword/Ability Words: Endure (Whenever damage is removed from this creature, put that many +1/+1 counters on it.) Syphon (Whenever this blocks or becomes blocked by a creature with a counter on it, you may move any one counter from that creature onto this creature.) Salvation # (At end of turn, if an opponent has # or more life than you and you were dealt damage this turn, you may return this from your graveyard to your hand.) Ascend — [effect] if an opponent controls more non-land permanents than you.
Also, Bloodthirst is fair game.
Syphon is in UB
Endure is is GW and is allowable in R
Bloodthirst is in BR
The others are universal.
The themes of the set are "cards become better when you are 'losing' in some way." and +1/+1 counters. Counters are often spent in costs as well.
Well, let's begin: First prompt - Make a mana producing (must be either colorless or mana of any color) or land seeking common non-creature artifact.
Intriguing theme, makes me wonder how the tide of power would shift during a single match.
Talamh Rune - Artifact
:sym2g:, :symtap:, Sacrifice Talamh Rune: Target player gains 2 life. Another target player searches his or her library for a basic land and puts it into play tapped.
Salvation 4
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Salvation, I think, is very interesting. Though I wish it didn't encourage manaburn so much.
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Having looked over the other thread about your set, I'm curious. Is this supposed to be the second set in the block? Or are we finishing your set for you.
manaburn doesnt deal damage, you lose life, so while you can do it to create the life difference, you still need to be dealt damage.
Edit: Its gonna be some of both. I don't really like the current mana-fixer in the set, so this will be a replacement for it. Every so often, I might do a prompt and end up saving the card for the next set if it happens to be good but not fit, and sometimes i will outright ask for a card for a sequel set.
Ok, time to start analyzing, although this one is easy in some ways:
Meatballwarrior, suspend does not really have a place in this set, so this card would be too out of place. Its a nice card, but doesnt belong here.
menma, this card is very nice, and a simple way to not overpower the artifact. I like that its a non-land permanent that will probably, early on, make it harder to get ascend, but later on, who knows.
Alabran, this card begs for a cycle which I don't have the space for in this set, BUT I am saving the idea for the follow up set, where, not to give too much away, this would fit.
Seratonin, this is the other really viable card of the four. I do really like this card, but I think it might be a bit dangerous. Also, I specifically asked for common, and this is not.
menma wins, and i am putting the card into the set as is (with a name of course)
menma - 1
next prompt: a white non-rare creature that cares if you have less life than an opponent. counter-shenanigans optional. I will take 5 submissions.
Soul-Hardy Defender2W
Creature - Human Soldier
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have less life than target opponent, Soul-Hardy Defender gets +0/+X until end of turn, where X is equal to the difference. The weaker its master is, the mightier his defense is.
1/1
Patient Guardsman 2W (I can't spell)
Creature - Human Soldier (U)
Defender
If you have less life than each opponent, ~ gets +2/+2 and loses defender.
2/2
Refusing Gatekeeper3WW
Creature-Human Solidier {U}
Vigilance
If you have less life than an opponent, creatures he or she controls can't attack you.
2/5
Paladin of the White Sun 3WW
Creature - Human Knight (U)
Defender
As long as an opponent has more life than you, Paladin of the White Sun loses defender and gets +1/+2 and first strike. "Those whose greed consumes all shall feel the sting of my blade within their black heart" -White Sun code of honor
4/5
It is my personal goal in life to create a dragon card that will win the MCC. "The dragon has no pretense of compassion, no false mask of civilization—just hunger, heat, and need." —Sarkhan Vol
HGaramond, my worry with your card, as is a problem with all cards that work this way, is mana burn. You could mana burn yourself into giving him lifelink then gain some life back, whittling away in this way. However, of all the cards that could be made with this flaw, I must say this one is pretty balanced.
Atrius, I am a fan of this card, except that i really think it should be a constant effect. Why would a guard be tougher only on your own turn? That's not when you need someone who can stand up to a big creature. That said, this card's bonus is good in the sense that it doesn't inspire mana burn because its not THAT great.
Meatball, this feels like it could even be common. A 2/2 for 3 with defender is insanely under the curve in white, and a 4/4 with no abilities, while distinctly over the curve, isn't so much so that an impermanent 4/4 no abilities for 3 would be unheard of at common. The card is good, overall.
Seratonin, this card is overpowered, I think. This can easily buy you time to kill your opponent in one turn. Sure its not too hard to kill, but its still pretty darn annoying. I think its just a bit over the curve, and I would've preferred can't attack you UNLESS blah blah blah.
Dragon_o_c_f, this is a lot like meatball's card, and is a bit closer to uncommon than his was. I just think that maybe first strike was a bit much. a 5/anything first strike is no laughing matter, and a 5/6, well that's just silly. I think this card is just bigger in general than what i'm looking for.
The winner is Atrius, and a modified version of the card will be put in the set (to those who may ask later, I will not be updating the thread with each single card, but I am putting it in the set on MSE)
menma - 1
Atrius - 1
next prompt:
A green creature with some artifact and/or enchantment hate. Implement set themes where possible, but don't make the card awkward in doing so. I will take only 4 submissions on this one.
EDIT: no rares please
Aurabane Yorben comes into play with a +1/+1 counter on it.
At end of turn, if a counter was put on Aurabane Yorben this turn, destroy target artifact or enchantment.
2/3
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There was a submission by Dragon_Of_Cleansing_Fire that I actually really liked, but he seemed to have deleted it for some reason, here it is as I remember it:
Stone-Eater Moth - 2G Creature - Insect
Flying
Whenever Stone-Eater Moth deals damage to a player, destroy target non-creature artifact that player controls.
1/1
Though green should not be getting flying, I thought the flavor of it was really cool.
green sometimes gets flying sprites, and some bugs. Anyway, I'm not counting that as four submissions, just the three that currently stand. However, I'm going to bed, so I assume there will be a fourth when I wake up and I will judge it when I see it. Thank you players already for some great ideas. I hope this keeps up.
Waxwane Monk1G
Creature - Human Monk (U) Ascend - At the beginning of your upkeep, if an opponent controls more nonland permanents that you, destroy target artifact or enchantment that player controls.
:symg:, Remove an artifact or enchantment in target graveyard from the game: Put a +1/+1 counter on Waxwane Monk.
1/1
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Seratonin, I like the idea but green doesn't really get a lot of syphon. However, it will someday, so this too might go in the set file I made called "in reserve." This idea is nice, and I think you could've gotten away with making it come into play with two counters instead of being a 2/2.
rugglesworth, your card is interesting, but not common. Now obviously there's not really a surefire way to know this, but I think a 3/4 with endure for 4 is a bit over the common curve on its own, although maybe not in green. Giving it another ability puts it over. However, the idea here is nice and might fit with a little change of p/t or cost. Also, it should be changed to remove a counter, in light of some other kinds of counters that will come into play. (divinity already exists in a cycle, for example)
Alabran, I dont see this at uncommon, because It can force you to destroy your own. I would've like it to say may on it, because I could see some opponent-puts-a-counter-on-it shenanigans going down.
Atrius, this is a good use of ascend, but I don't really think the second ability is THAT green, (it is a little green) and I don't think remove-from-graveyard is really gonna make an imprint on my set enough to put it in a non-black card.
the winner is rugglesworth, and a modified version of the card will be put in the set.
menma, Atrius, rugglesworth - 1
next card I need:
A common non-mana-producing, non-land-finding artifact that in some way uses charge counters. Will take 6 submissions, because this one is actually pretty important to me.
Covennent of Life 4
Artifact {C}
Pay 1 life: Put a charge counter on Covennent of Life. Ascend- Remove two charge counters from Covennent of life: You gain 3 life. Play this ability only if an opponent controls more non-land permanents than you.
Solaris Helm 3
Artifact - Equipment
~ comes into play with two charge counters on it.
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 for each charge counter on ~. 3: Put a charge counter on ~.
Equip 3
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Graftstone2
Artifact
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may put a charge counter on Graftstone.
When Graftstone is put into a graveyard from play, for each charge counter on it, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Eh, my submission was not much different from Indrik Stomphowler, which remained popular even though Blink Riders was a popular deck. It doesn't seem like there are actually that many ways for an opponent to put a counter on it, looking through the existing cards.
Spite Lance - 1 Artifact - Equipment
Whenever equipped creature is put into a graveyard from play, put a charge counter on Spite Lance.
Ascend - Equipped creature gets +2/+2 for each charge counter on Spite Lance as long as an opponent controls more non-land permanents than you.
Equip: 1
Gilded Armory Artifact
~ comes into play with 2 charge counters on it.
Ascend - At the beginning of your upkeep if an opponent controls more nonland permanents than you, put a charge counter on ~.
:2mana:: Remove a charge counter from ~, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
I had since changed Foliage Protectorate's power to 2, I now think that 3/4 is a little bit too powerful as well.
Bear Trap 4
Artifact T: Put a charge counter on Bear Trap. Ascend - Remove a charge counter from Bear Trap: tap target creature. Play this ability only if an opponent controls more nonland permanents than you.
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With the imminent end of Penguinwriter's Challenge, and the relative inactivity of the custom set thread compared to this one, I am taking a page out of BlackBull's book and enlisting you, the forum gamer, to help me design, flavorize, and develop my set. This game will be a meldification between BlackBull's card competitions, the we make the set competition, and the neverending duel.
I will post a prompt for the sort of card I need for the set and how many submissions I want for that particular prompt (the more complex prompts will probably ask for more various submissions.)
I will not be putting these up to polls, but judging them myself, then posting the next prompt, meaning the entire game can stay within this thread.
Of course, in the spirit of the neverending duel, I will keep track of who has won how many card selections. Also, sometimes I will modify even the winning card to better fit the set.
That said, here is a link to the set thread: Safeguard
If you are, understandably so, not keen to go through the whole thing, here are the key things for individual card design:
New Keyword/Ability Words:
Endure (Whenever damage is removed from this creature, put that many +1/+1 counters on it.)
Syphon (Whenever this blocks or becomes blocked by a creature with a counter on it, you may move any one counter from that creature onto this creature.)
Salvation # (At end of turn, if an opponent has # or more life than you and you were dealt damage this turn, you may return this from your graveyard to your hand.)
Ascend — [effect] if an opponent controls more non-land permanents than you.
Also, Bloodthirst is fair game.
Syphon is in UB
Endure is is GW and is allowable in R
Bloodthirst is in BR
The others are universal.
The themes of the set are "cards become better when you are 'losing' in some way." and +1/+1 counters. Counters are often spent in costs as well.
Well, let's begin:
First prompt - Make a mana producing (must be either colorless or mana of any color) or land seeking common non-creature artifact.
Let It Begin
Thanks to Spiderboy4 of High~Light for the above sig banner.
I happen to run a game for a set:
The Safeguard Custom Card Competition
I happen to be working on another set:
Peddler's Empire
First card revealed.
:symtap:, Sacrifice ~: Search your library for a land card and put it into play.
Suspend 3: 0
I don't know a lot of story wise so i will leave the name empty in case u or i think of something better.
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Talamh Rune -
Artifact
:sym2g:, :symtap:, Sacrifice Talamh Rune: Target player gains 2 life. Another target player searches his or her library for a basic land and puts it into play tapped.
Salvation 4
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Salvation, I think, is very interesting. Though I wish it didn't encourage manaburn so much.
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Having looked over the other thread about your set, I'm curious. Is this supposed to be the second set in the block? Or are we finishing your set for you.
Edit: Its gonna be some of both. I don't really like the current mana-fixer in the set, so this will be a replacement for it. Every so often, I might do a prompt and end up saving the card for the next set if it happens to be good but not fit, and sometimes i will outright ask for a card for a sequel set.
Thanks to Spiderboy4 of High~Light for the above sig banner.
I happen to run a game for a set:
The Safeguard Custom Card Competition
I happen to be working on another set:
Peddler's Empire
First card revealed.
Covennent of Mana 2
Artifact {U}
Sacrifice Covennent of Mana: Add two mana of any color to your mana pool.
Salvation 2
Winner of the First and Fourth Double Dare Single Elimination Contests
2009 July CCL: COMING THIS JULY
2008 December CCL: The Mechinations of Fate
Double Dare to Design: The 5th Single Elimination Contest
Double Dare That Designer: The 2nd Single Elimination Contest
Meatballwarrior, suspend does not really have a place in this set, so this card would be too out of place. Its a nice card, but doesnt belong here.
menma, this card is very nice, and a simple way to not overpower the artifact. I like that its a non-land permanent that will probably, early on, make it harder to get ascend, but later on, who knows.
Alabran, this card begs for a cycle which I don't have the space for in this set, BUT I am saving the idea for the follow up set, where, not to give too much away, this would fit.
Seratonin, this is the other really viable card of the four. I do really like this card, but I think it might be a bit dangerous. Also, I specifically asked for common, and this is not.
menma wins, and i am putting the card into the set as is (with a name of course)
menma - 1
next prompt:
a white non-rare creature that cares if you have less life than an opponent. counter-shenanigans optional. I will take 5 submissions.
Thanks to Spiderboy4 of High~Light for the above sig banner.
I happen to run a game for a set:
The Safeguard Custom Card Competition
I happen to be working on another set:
Peddler's Empire
First card revealed.
Creature - Spirit U
Flying
Cura Personalis has lifelink as long as you have less life than an opponent.
3/3
Creature - Human Soldier
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have less life than target opponent, Soul-Hardy Defender gets +0/+X until end of turn, where X is equal to the difference.
The weaker its master is, the mightier his defense is.
1/1
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Creature - Human Soldier (U)
Defender
If you have less life than each opponent, ~ gets +2/+2 and loses defender.
2/2
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Creature-Human Solidier {U}
Vigilance
If you have less life than an opponent, creatures he or she controls can't attack you.
2/5
Winner of the First and Fourth Double Dare Single Elimination Contests
2009 July CCL: COMING THIS JULY
2008 December CCL: The Mechinations of Fate
Double Dare to Design: The 5th Single Elimination Contest
Double Dare That Designer: The 2nd Single Elimination Contest
Creature - Human Knight (U)
Defender
As long as an opponent has more life than you, Paladin of the White Sun loses defender and gets +1/+2 and first strike.
"Those whose greed consumes all shall feel the sting of my blade within their black heart" -White Sun code of honor
4/5
It is my personal goal in life to create a dragon card that will win the MCC.
"The dragon has no pretense of compassion, no false mask of civilization—just hunger, heat, and need." —Sarkhan Vol
Atrius, I am a fan of this card, except that i really think it should be a constant effect. Why would a guard be tougher only on your own turn? That's not when you need someone who can stand up to a big creature. That said, this card's bonus is good in the sense that it doesn't inspire mana burn because its not THAT great.
Meatball, this feels like it could even be common. A 2/2 for 3 with defender is insanely under the curve in white, and a 4/4 with no abilities, while distinctly over the curve, isn't so much so that an impermanent 4/4 no abilities for 3 would be unheard of at common. The card is good, overall.
Seratonin, this card is overpowered, I think. This can easily buy you time to kill your opponent in one turn. Sure its not too hard to kill, but its still pretty darn annoying. I think its just a bit over the curve, and I would've preferred can't attack you UNLESS blah blah blah.
Dragon_o_c_f, this is a lot like meatball's card, and is a bit closer to uncommon than his was. I just think that maybe first strike was a bit much. a 5/anything first strike is no laughing matter, and a 5/6, well that's just silly. I think this card is just bigger in general than what i'm looking for.
The winner is Atrius, and a modified version of the card will be put in the set (to those who may ask later, I will not be updating the thread with each single card, but I am putting it in the set on MSE)
menma - 1
Atrius - 1
next prompt:
A green creature with some artifact and/or enchantment hate. Implement set themes where possible, but don't make the card awkward in doing so. I will take only 4 submissions on this one.
EDIT: no rares please
Thanks to Spiderboy4 of High~Light for the above sig banner.
I happen to run a game for a set:
The Safeguard Custom Card Competition
I happen to be working on another set:
Peddler's Empire
First card revealed.
I justify my card via Chronomatic Escape and Ghostly Prison.
Tiviel Rejecter 1GG
Creature-Human Shaman {U}
Syphon
Remove two counters from Tiviel Rejecter: Destroy target enchantment or artifact.
2/2
Winner of the First and Fourth Double Dare Single Elimination Contests
2009 July CCL: COMING THIS JULY
2008 December CCL: The Mechinations of Fate
Double Dare to Design: The 5th Single Elimination Contest
Double Dare That Designer: The 2nd Single Elimination Contest
Creature - Treefolk Shaman
Endure
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Foliage Protectorate: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
2/4
It's a common.
Creature - Beast [u]
Aurabane Yorben comes into play with a +1/+1 counter on it.
At end of turn, if a counter was put on Aurabane Yorben this turn, destroy target artifact or enchantment.
2/3
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There was a submission by Dragon_Of_Cleansing_Fire that I actually really liked, but he seemed to have deleted it for some reason, here it is as I remember it:
Stone-Eater Moth - 2G
Creature - Insect
Flying
Whenever Stone-Eater Moth deals damage to a player, destroy target non-creature artifact that player controls.
1/1
Though green should not be getting flying, I thought the flavor of it was really cool.
Thanks to Spiderboy4 of High~Light for the above sig banner.
I happen to run a game for a set:
The Safeguard Custom Card Competition
I happen to be working on another set:
Peddler's Empire
First card revealed.
Creature - Human Monk (U)
Ascend - At the beginning of your upkeep, if an opponent controls more nonland permanents that you, destroy target artifact or enchantment that player controls.
:symg:, Remove an artifact or enchantment in target graveyard from the game: Put a +1/+1 counter on Waxwane Monk.
1/1
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rugglesworth, your card is interesting, but not common. Now obviously there's not really a surefire way to know this, but I think a 3/4 with endure for 4 is a bit over the common curve on its own, although maybe not in green. Giving it another ability puts it over. However, the idea here is nice and might fit with a little change of p/t or cost. Also, it should be changed to remove a counter, in light of some other kinds of counters that will come into play. (divinity already exists in a cycle, for example)
Alabran, I dont see this at uncommon, because It can force you to destroy your own. I would've like it to say may on it, because I could see some opponent-puts-a-counter-on-it shenanigans going down.
Atrius, this is a good use of ascend, but I don't really think the second ability is THAT green, (it is a little green) and I don't think remove-from-graveyard is really gonna make an imprint on my set enough to put it in a non-black card.
the winner is rugglesworth, and a modified version of the card will be put in the set.
menma, Atrius, rugglesworth - 1
next card I need:
A common non-mana-producing, non-land-finding artifact that in some way uses charge counters. Will take 6 submissions, because this one is actually pretty important to me.
Thanks to Spiderboy4 of High~Light for the above sig banner.
I happen to run a game for a set:
The Safeguard Custom Card Competition
I happen to be working on another set:
Peddler's Empire
First card revealed.
Artifact {C}
Pay 1 life: Put a charge counter on Covennent of Life.
Ascend- Remove two charge counters from Covennent of life: You gain 3 life. Play this ability only if an opponent controls more non-land permanents than you.
Winner of the First and Fourth Double Dare Single Elimination Contests
2009 July CCL: COMING THIS JULY
2008 December CCL: The Mechinations of Fate
Double Dare to Design: The 5th Single Elimination Contest
Double Dare That Designer: The 2nd Single Elimination Contest
Artifact - Equipment
~ comes into play with two charge counters on it.
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 for each charge counter on ~.
3: Put a charge counter on ~.
Equip 3
decks are under here
[xspoiler]
WUBRG prismatic 250, selesnya themed
U permission deck
R 20-minute burn deck
GU standard simic
GWU infinite damage combo deck
under-construction decks can be found here!
http://tappedout.net/users/FourEx/
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Artifact
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may put a charge counter on Graftstone.
When Graftstone is put into a graveyard from play, for each charge counter on it, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Thanks to Spiderboy4 of High~Light for the above sig banner.
I happen to run a game for a set:
The Safeguard Custom Card Competition
I happen to be working on another set:
Peddler's Empire
First card revealed.
Spite Lance - 1
Artifact - Equipment
Whenever equipped creature is put into a graveyard from play, put a charge counter on Spite Lance.
Ascend - Equipped creature gets +2/+2 for each charge counter on Spite Lance as long as an opponent controls more non-land permanents than you.
Equip: 1
Artifact
~ comes into play with 2 charge counters on it.
Ascend - At the beginning of your upkeep if an opponent controls more nonland permanents than you, put a charge counter on ~.
:2mana:: Remove a charge counter from ~, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
Bear Trap 4
Artifact
T: Put a charge counter on Bear Trap.
Ascend - Remove a charge counter from Bear Trap: tap target creature. Play this ability only if an opponent controls more nonland permanents than you.
You may have to change the name....