Quote from rancored_elf »Nothing overly creative here, just some designs that fill in gaps. Going for playable (Standard or Modern) but not obsoleting playable creatures already in print.
Webwatch Spider - GG
Creature - Spider
Quote from silvercut »There is no other X/4 vigilance creature below three mana. I think this would be fine at 1/3 for GG.
Quote from rancored_elf »You're quite right, sirgog, many of the results would still not be playable in Vintage formats. Creatures above 3 mana just aren't played for their power or toughness in that format.
Quote from sirgog »Quote from rancored_elf »You're quite right, sirgog, many of the results would still not be playable in Vintage formats. Creatures above 3 mana just aren't played for their power or toughness in that format.
I was talking Standard. A 3/13 for 2WW would be a ten cent rare unless it had Timmy demand..
Quote from Xenannigans »One card you forgot to add for green is Leatherback Baloth
Quote from Xenannigans »Nivmagus Elemental Deathrite Shaman Rakdos Cackler Frostburn Weird Burning-Tree Emissary Ghor-Clan Rampager Boros Reckoner Spark Trooper Nightveil Specter Rakdos, Lord of Riots Spike Jester Armada Wurm Dryad Militant Loxodon Smiter Blood Baron of Vizkopa Obzedat, Ghost Council Species Gorger Vorel of The Hull Clade
Maybe some of these will help
Quote from bravelion83 »I don't have the time to read this all right now, but later tonight I will. At first glance, very good work. Don't forget my list from your original thread in CCCG, which also includes all combinations of two-color gold and hybrid. Red and green are still missing, I'll probably do red tonight and green after that as soon as I can. Further feedback coming later after I read it all.
Quote from Xenannigans »Are you looking only p/t to cmc ratio or are you factoring in strength of abilities as well?
Quote from sirgog »Every colour except blue can get 2/2 small downside at 1 mana.
Quote from sirgog »The bar for 4 mana combat creatures is set very high.
Quote from sirgog »it doesn't yet exist, but I feel a 4/4 trample for 1GG is very printable.
Quote from bravelion83 »lots
Quote from rancored_elf »
Thanks again for that work, you've done so much! I'm going through it tonight and I'll keep updating the first posts as I go.
I've already come across Old Ghastbark (3WW 3/6), surprisingly good enough to get on the master list. Added.
And I just read about a new card coming in Dragons of Tarkir (spoiler warning......) which costs 1BB and is a 3/3+ Warrior. That's new, so it expands the master list. Nice to see it was essentially predicted in the analysis. I wonder what other stuff the new set will have for us?
EDIT: I just realized Tephraderm isn't Modern-legal, so I'll take it off the master list. There's a 4/5+ for 2RR anyhow.
Quote from Legend »This is awesome!
I can't believe the amazing amount of helpful design threads there have been of late - the Lion's Lair, Remaking Magic, the Set Skeleton, NWO/red-flag, and now this!
(Did I forget one? I feel like I forgot one.)
Quote from Legend »This is awesome!
Quote from bravelion83 »My list is finally complete and double checked! You can see it in post #15 above. When the full spoiler for DTK comes out I'll check if there are any new additions, and after that I'll try to do some data analysis.
Quote from BaronVonGrixis »New spoiler today, black has a vanilla common - 3B for a 1/6. While strictly worse than the 2/6 on the same slot, I couldn't actually find what card you used for that reference - closest I can find is Rotted Hulk