Hi everybody, this is my second deck i post here on this forum and i think i did something original AND with a possibility of being competitive, so this is my deck :
The key cards: Primal Forcemage: the card is the key of the victories. Without it, it can be more difficult to win. It’s ideal for creatures with haste. Cloudstone Curio: this card is one of my favourite cards in magic i think... This card is the creature a great synergie with many card in this deck. (all card with CITP love this one)
Killers: Spark Elemental/Uktabi Drake: Those card usually kill the player with the action of one or two primal forcemage before they come in battlefield, my little 3/1 and 2/1 becomes 6/4, 5/4 or even 9/7, 8/7 (possibility of 15/13 with 4 primal forccemage in play... eh sorry... we now have to say in the battlefield because its more “magical” for the new player.) Braidblood Elf: do i need to say anything on this GOD? He also have haste so PRIMAL POWA for him. Keldon Marauder: Ok i know it its slow but its 1R for a 2 damage for sure. It also have a good synergy with a cloudstone curio.
Supports: Kird Ape: its a cheap way to bounce a Braiblood elf. And its also a good creature R for 2/3. Eternal Witness: Can return creature that i played too soon to bounce them. (like an early spark elemental)
Wannabe Control: Stingscourger : its a unsummon RED so i will say its a good thing with Cloudstone Curio Char: a little direct damage to make the game shorter or to kill a creature or to make a planeswalker weaker
Sideboard
3 Naturalize: Obligatory
3 Pithing Needle : Obligatory
3 Hurricane: against flying and it’s can be a finisher.
3 Essence Warden : Against aggro
3 Guttural response: Counterspell et cie
All comments are welcome. A really think this deck can be good with a little bit of adjustement... Thank you very much to understand English is not my primary language.
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Kakwann, Lvl 39 Sorcerer
Currently Playing
Standard:GWRU 4C Collected Company Modern:GUWRB Bloom Titan Legacy:BUG SHARDLESS BUG
EDH : GR BORBORYGMOS ENRAGED GU PRIME SPEAKER ZEGENA UWR ZEDRUU THE GREATHEARTED UBR MISHRA ARTIFICER PRODIGY B SHEOLDRED WHISPERING ONE R ASHLING THE PILGRIM
How many turn? LOL! I dont know! I understand that my deck is not the better deck (and not the fastest) This version of my deck, is more an evolution of a very more casual deck that i played before. This is at least original, but i understand your point of view.
I had though about those 2 cards you'r talking about, but the point that was stoping me was : RRR and GGG => it's hard to play (that's why im not playing flame javelin).
And their was also the problem of the manacurve (the manacurve is alot higher than it seem, because of cloustone curio makes me play 2 or 3 times the sames spell)
I'm not really a fan of nonbasic lands since in general im making my decks budgets... but i might invest in some...
Im too close of it, i have some problems to see what i can change in it. So if you have any suggustion please say it...
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Kakwann, Lvl 39 Sorcerer
Currently Playing
Standard:GWRU 4C Collected Company Modern:GUWRB Bloom Titan Legacy:BUG SHARDLESS BUG
EDH : GR BORBORYGMOS ENRAGED GU PRIME SPEAKER ZEGENA UWR ZEDRUU THE GREATHEARTED UBR MISHRA ARTIFICER PRODIGY B SHEOLDRED WHISPERING ONE R ASHLING THE PILGRIM
The last thing an haste aggro like that would want is a forced tapland as Vivid Crag.
Umezawa's Jitte isn't very impressive on this deck. Most of things don't stay on board for too long, so you need a lot of mana to drop a Ball and equip it. I think Grafted Wargear would fit better, though it competes with both Ball Lightning and Groundbreaker.
Im very lucky… a good friend on mine sold me 4 fire-lit thicket for a very low price… So buying 4 other Karplusian Forest (and not shivan reef lol mistake) and 4 ancient ziggurat should be in my budget but Ravland are really too high for me that’s sure.
4 Ball Lightning/Groundbreaker (don’t know which one for now)
4 Spark Elemental
4 Ubtaki Drake
4 Kird Ape (cause it’s cheap to bounce another creature)
I already have 28 spell / 38 and the manacurve is already high. I really like the idea of a Grafted Wargear. It seem really good because I’m not gonna need absolutely a primal forcemage FTW. I need 6 other spell, I was thinking about Hellspark Elemental cause of his Unearth powa so may be 4 of them. Finally, I just need 2 more spell… may be 2 lightning ball.
Standard:GWRU 4C Collected Company Modern:GUWRB Bloom Titan Legacy:BUG SHARDLESS BUG
EDH : GR BORBORYGMOS ENRAGED GU PRIME SPEAKER ZEGENA UWR ZEDRUU THE GREATHEARTED UBR MISHRA ARTIFICER PRODIGY B SHEOLDRED WHISPERING ONE R ASHLING THE PILGRIM
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Cloudstone Forcemage
4 Braidblood Elf
4 Primal Forcemage
4 Cloudstone Curio
4 Ethernal Witness
3 Char
4 Stingscourger
4 Spark Elemental
3 Uktabi Drake
4 Kird Ape
11 Mountain
Primal Forcemage: the card is the key of the victories. Without it, it can be more difficult to win. It’s ideal for creatures with haste.
Cloudstone Curio: this card is one of my favourite cards in magic i think... This card is the creature a great synergie with many card in this deck. (all card with CITP love this one)
Killers:
Spark Elemental/Uktabi Drake: Those card usually kill the player with the action of one or two primal forcemage before they come in battlefield, my little 3/1 and 2/1 becomes 6/4, 5/4 or even 9/7, 8/7 (possibility of 15/13 with 4 primal forccemage in play... eh sorry... we now have to say in the battlefield because its more “magical” for the new player.)
Braidblood Elf: do i need to say anything on this GOD? He also have haste so PRIMAL POWA for him.
Keldon Marauder: Ok i know it its slow but its 1R for a 2 damage for sure. It also have a good synergy with a cloudstone curio.
Supports:
Kird Ape: its a cheap way to bounce a Braiblood elf. And its also a good creature R for 2/3.
Eternal Witness: Can return creature that i played too soon to bounce them. (like an early spark elemental)
Wannabe Control:
Stingscourger : its a unsummon RED so i will say its a good thing with Cloudstone Curio
Char: a little direct damage to make the game shorter or to kill a creature or to make a planeswalker weaker
Sideboard
3 Naturalize: Obligatory
3 Pithing Needle : Obligatory
3 Hurricane: against flying and it’s can be a finisher.
3 Essence Warden : Against aggro
3 Guttural response: Counterspell et cie
All comments are welcome. A really think this deck can be good with a little bit of adjustement... Thank you very much to understand English is not my primary language.
Standard: GWRU 4C Collected Company
Modern: GUWRB Bloom Titan
Legacy: BUG SHARDLESS BUG
EDH :
GR BORBORYGMOS ENRAGED
GU PRIME SPEAKER ZEGENA
UWR ZEDRUU THE GREATHEARTED
UBR MISHRA ARTIFICER PRODIGY
B SHEOLDRED WHISPERING ONE
R ASHLING THE PILGRIM
I had though about those 2 cards you'r talking about, but the point that was stoping me was : RRR and GGG => it's hard to play (that's why im not playing flame javelin).
And their was also the problem of the manacurve (the manacurve is alot higher than it seem, because of cloustone curio makes me play 2 or 3 times the sames spell)
I'm not really a fan of nonbasic lands since in general im making my decks budgets... but i might invest in some...
here, this is an other idea
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Primal Forcemage
3 Cloudstone Curio
3 Ethernal Witness
3 Groundbreaker
2 Char
4 Manamorphose
4 Spark Elemental
3 Uktabi Drake
4 Kird Ape
8 Mountain
4 Shivan Reef
Standard: GWRU 4C Collected Company
Modern: GUWRB Bloom Titan
Legacy: BUG SHARDLESS BUG
EDH :
GR BORBORYGMOS ENRAGED
GU PRIME SPEAKER ZEGENA
UWR ZEDRUU THE GREATHEARTED
UBR MISHRA ARTIFICER PRODIGY
B SHEOLDRED WHISPERING ONE
R ASHLING THE PILGRIM
If you also use the RG shadowmoor lands and rg shocklands, doing ball lightning/groundbreaker one after another is doable.
use the ziggurat if you're on a budget.
Standard
BGDamn AggroBG
RGWild DragonsRG
Time Spiral Block
BRPing and DieBR
Stomping Ground
Karplusan Forest
Fire-Lit Thicket
Vivid Crag
Reflecting Pool
Ball Lightning
Groundbreaker
Umezawa's Jitte
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=5401186#post5401186
The last thing an haste aggro like that would want is a forced tapland as Vivid Crag.
Umezawa's Jitte isn't very impressive on this deck. Most of things don't stay on board for too long, so you need a lot of mana to drop a Ball and equip it. I think Grafted Wargear would fit better, though it competes with both Ball Lightning and Groundbreaker.
My old nickname was lockheart87.
4 Fire-Lit Thicket
4 Karplusian Forest
4 Ancient Ziggurat
5 Forest
5 Mountain
This is IMO a correct manabase (better than my normal one… of basic lands). Now, the rest of the deck LOL! I tried to spot the essential card.
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Primal Forcemage
4 Cloudstone Curio
4 Ball Lightning/Groundbreaker (don’t know which one for now)
4 Spark Elemental
4 Ubtaki Drake
4 Kird Ape (cause it’s cheap to bounce another creature)
I already have 28 spell / 38 and the manacurve is already high. I really like the idea of a Grafted Wargear. It seem really good because I’m not gonna need absolutely a primal forcemage FTW. I need 6 other spell, I was thinking about Hellspark Elemental cause of his Unearth powa so may be 4 of them. Finally, I just need 2 more spell… may be 2 lightning ball.
4 Grafted Wargear
4 Hellspark Elemental
Mana curve
1 = 14
2 = 4
3 = 16
4 = 4
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Primal Forcemage
4 Cloudstone Curio
4 Groundbreaker
4 Grafted Wargear
2 Lightning Ball
4 Spark Elemental
4 Ubtaki Drake
4 Kird Ape
4 Karplusian Forest
4 Ancient Ziggurat
5 Forest
5 Mountain
Thank to all comments to help me to build better deck. If you have any other plz post them.
Standard: GWRU 4C Collected Company
Modern: GUWRB Bloom Titan
Legacy: BUG SHARDLESS BUG
EDH :
GR BORBORYGMOS ENRAGED
GU PRIME SPEAKER ZEGENA
UWR ZEDRUU THE GREATHEARTED
UBR MISHRA ARTIFICER PRODIGY
B SHEOLDRED WHISPERING ONE
R ASHLING THE PILGRIM