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I was just wondering about how countries that are not the USA and how they view us. But something was prominent, if youre from another country, how do you view this US' election? What are the highlights that you see? Who do you think your country would benefit being elected?
Thank you!
Update as of 2/10: Bernie Sanders won the New Hampshire Primaries for Democrats (49 left for Democrats.) This is a large thing since its showing that he can be a better candidate than Clinton
I am trying to get better at making decks. I have had trouble creating more competitive decks as I only really build with the cards I have. I dont have that many value cards, in function or expense. I (almost) never play at FNM type events so its not like im playing against $2k decks. If I do usally play at one, Its a draft or limited game. Any advice on building decks is greatly supported! DMs are appreciated.
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To put it more simply, it's like saying, "I can prove Jesus is real and loves you. See? Here's my Hispanic friend Jesus. He's had a crush on you for a long time. Tell em' Jesus."
Here's a joke! Whats the internal temperature of a Taun-Taun?
What about the other candidates that you know of? what are your opinions about them.
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I am trying to get better at making decks. I have had trouble creating more competitive decks as I only really build with the cards I have. I dont have that many value cards, in function or expense. I (almost) never play at FNM type events so its not like im playing against $2k decks. If I do usally play at one, Its a draft or limited game. Any advice on building decks is greatly supported! DMs are appreciated.
Thank you!
To put it more simply, it's like saying, "I can prove Jesus is real and loves you. See? Here's my Hispanic friend Jesus. He's had a crush on you for a long time. Tell em' Jesus."
Here's a joke! Whats the internal temperature of a Taun-Taun?
As an American living abroad, I can tell you that they see it in a very filtered and biased way. This is partly due to the fact that their media gets their stories by essentially recycling US stories from certain outlets.
As an American living abroad, I can tell you that they see it in a very filtered and biased way. This is partly due to the fact that their media gets their stories by essentially recycling US stories from certain outlets.
For one, there's no way you can speak for how every other country than the US sees the US. But also, this is exactly how people in the US see it: in a filtered and biased way, because that's how everyone, everywhere sees such information that isn't directly from the source. The simple fact that people are responsible for the distribution of the information, tells you that there will always be a bias.
And, in any case, in today's era of the internet and easy travel, you can tell very little about what people know from what country they live in.
What about the other candidates that you know of? what are your opinions about them.
Most of them I find quite disinteresting, they don't seem interested in changing anything significant, and I do think significant change is needed. Trump seems like an anti-Sanders, he has an anti-establishment, change-oriented attitude, but in the opposite general direction.
I think they are rigged. I don't think it matters who wins, things won't change. Debt will increase, wars won't stop, freedoms will be taken, 'free' stuff will be stolen then given to some other group of voters...
I think the biggest clown should be president, and that would be Trump... Or Hilldog, either way it will be fun to laugh at the US.
Sanders won't change anything giving 'free' education, he will get the country further into debt and things will get worse, inflation for all.
Ron Paul would have been the only one I really support, but he is old now, and his son doesn't look as good.
The president will just stick to looking after the stock market, and since America economy is mostly war machines, wars will continue.
QE4 on the horizon
As an American living abroad, I can tell you that they see it in a very filtered and biased way. This is partly due to the fact that their media gets their stories by essentially recycling US stories from certain outlets.
... But also, this is exactly how people in the US see it...
Not true. The viewpoints in different media outlets are more diverse within the USA than what you would normally be exposed to elsewhere. This is natural, but still only gives people living outside of that diversity a stilted viewpoint of things.
To be specific, in Australia you essentially only have the AP/NYT viewpoint expressed in the media. They might as well just be changing the byline most of the time. Much of the actual detail and counterpoint is lost. The real lived experience is also non-existent.
For example, it becomes quite humorous to me when I speak to people about current affairs. Issues that are largely irrelevant in context (e.g. Gun laws in a country that already has them) become big talking points.
As an American living abroad, I can tell you that they see it in a very filtered and biased way. This is partly due to the fact that their media gets their stories by essentially recycling US stories from certain outlets.
... But also, this is exactly how people in the US see it...
Not true. The media outlets are more diverse within the USA than what you would normally be exposed to elsewhere. This is natural. To be specific, in Australia you essentially only have the AP/NYT viewpoint expressed in the media. They might as well just be changing the byline most of the time. Much of the actual detail and counterpoint is lost. The real lived experience is also non-existent.
The biggest problem is your assumption that local coverage of foreign US affairs is the only relevant or most relevant category to how people see the US. I can assure you that, with the internet, a lot of people read straight US coverage. No matter how you might try to put it, you're making claims you simply can't support because the mediums through which people see US affairs is something that cannot be reliably measured, given that it occurs on such a large scale and with a significant degree of privacy- your evidence will be incomplete.
Furthermore, unless you have been to and lived in every country that is not the USA, you can't really speak for them can you? You (originally at least) spoke as if all of them see the US in the way you are describing when you clearly do not know that. If you mean only Australia, say that.
Issues that are largely irrelevant in context (e.g. Gun laws in a country that already has them) become big talking points.
So you can't talk about changing, adding to or subtracting from existing laws? 'USA already has gun laws' doesn't mean 'gun laws are not an issue in the USA'. In the same way as 'we already have a government' doesn't mean 'government is not an issue'. I get the feeling you meant something more specific here.
Ok, if you educate yourself, and know where to look, you might not be completely ignorant on matters. So what? That is irrelevant to what I'm saying. The vast majority of Australians do not keep up with great detail in the ongoings of America. They receive a very limited view through mainstream media which is very biased.
The vast majority of Australians do not keep up with great detail in the ongoings of America.
How do you know? Australia has a population of millions of people, how have, or anyone really, profiled all or almost of those people in terms of how much they pay attention to the US? As I said earlier, your data is incomplete. You can suggest this, but you can't present it as fact, because it isn't.
I've been living in Australia for 7 years and my job involves traveling to many cities and talking with hundreds of people in any given month. I've talked to enough to know that their knowledge on the US political matters is pretty lacking. I also keep up with US events enough to realise how much the Aussie media is just regurgitated crap from the mainstream US media.
Besides, your claim that the Australian public just as informed in US politics strikes me as a bit ridicuolous, because they; 1. Have a fraction of their media coverage devoted to it; 2. Do not have as much interest given its not their country; and 3. Have a cultural barrier stemming from being a part of the commonwealth that provides just another layer of misunderstanding. That news from other countries is going to be simplistic and often biased (by various factors) is a fact that is fairly self-evident to anyone who has ever traveled abroad even for a short period.
Edit: What is more interesting to me is that people who are supposedly informed on the matter are generally pretty far off the mark too. This is due to their own cultural differences, mislead preconceptions about the US, and just outright misinformation. It's easy to accept most of these things because there is nothing to challenge their validity in personal experience without seeking out information that is not readily apparent to people who do not know where to look.
Besides, your claim that the Australian public just as informed in US politics strikes me as a bit ridicuolous.
Not my claim. I am saying that you don't know how well informed they are, you can only make an estimate. You obviously have a sizable amount of data, but not enough to make any strong claims.
Besides, your claim that the Australian public just as informed in US politics strikes me as a bit ridicuolous.
Not my claim. I am saying that you don't know how well informed they are, you can only make an estimate. You obviously have a sizable amount of data, but not enough to make any strong claims.
Mate, you can get epistemically pedantic, but I don't really see your point if you are not trying to argue that my initial observation is wrong. We can't absolutely know the Sun will rise next morning, but it doesn't stop us from making the obvious inferences from what we can see.
It doesn't matter how much the average member of the Australian public knows about American politics. It matters how much the specific person engaged in the discussion does. An Australian actively paying attention to American politics will know more than the average american.
I'm sure you can find people that are paying attention to what's going on in America and still wrong about a lot of stuff. I can find them in America too. I think we all remember the study that demonstrated the more you watch a certain news program, the less informed you are about reality than if you watch none at all.
, if youre from another country, how do you view this US' election? What are the highlights that you see? Who do you think your country would benefit being elected?
This is the specific individual question from the main post, a call for engaged individuals to share their personal thoughts. It wasn't asking Americans to come in and announce what the rest of the world thinks about America. You can do that if you like, but it's not terribly relevant or reliable.
I was just wondering about how countries that are not the USA and how they view us.
And this the main purpose for asking the question you quote. Perhaps my input isn't directly related to the following portion of the question, but it is still relevant to the OP's thread title question and interest in the discussion as I understood it.
(Also, it's ridiculous that you're still using this archaic voting system where a president can get elected with little over 25% of the votes, but that's a different story)
That's never even come close to happening in America. It is, however, the norm in parliamentary systems. The current Prime Minister of the Netherlands won with his party receiving 20.5% of the vote, and of Sweden, with his party receiving 31% of the vote.
I'm an european, so I'm automatically liberal-minded by American standards.
Um... I don't think that assessment of general European attitudes is entirely accurate, especially in light of the events of the past couple of months.
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I'm an european, so I'm automatically liberal-minded by American standards.
Um... I don't think that assessment of general European attitudes is entirely accurate, especially in light of the events of the past couple of months.
I'm going to have to agree with BS on this one :S Most of Europe is either turning Socialist or Fascist. Although I do think the libertarian movement is gaining some support. But the system will probably have to collapse to get our freedoms back, dark ages Part 2 bring them on!!!
I'm an european, so I'm automatically liberal-minded by American standards.
Um... I don't think that assessment of general European attitudes is entirely accurate, especially in light of the events of the past couple of months.
I'm going to have to agree with BS on this one :S Most of Europe is either turning Socialist or Fascist. Although I do think the libertarian movement is gaining some support. But the system will probably have to collapse to get our freedoms back, dark ages Part 2 bring them on!!!
Wheres the fascism?
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I am trying to get better at making decks. I have had trouble creating more competitive decks as I only really build with the cards I have. I dont have that many value cards, in function or expense. I (almost) never play at FNM type events so its not like im playing against $2k decks. If I do usally play at one, Its a draft or limited game. Any advice on building decks is greatly supported! DMs are appreciated.
Thank you!
To put it more simply, it's like saying, "I can prove Jesus is real and loves you. See? Here's my Hispanic friend Jesus. He's had a crush on you for a long time. Tell em' Jesus."
Here's a joke! Whats the internal temperature of a Taun-Taun?
Golden Dawn are the most obvious and unambiguously fascist example. There are a number of other parties throughout Europe like Fidesz and the British National Party that, while probably not technically fitting the definition of "fascist", are in the same ultra-nationalist-far-right neighborhood. And even on the left, the response of Hollande's government in France to the Paris attacks has been frankly pretty jackbooted -- you should always be alarmed when you hear a phrase like "indefinite state of emergency".
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(Also, it's ridiculous that you're still using this archaic voting system where a president can get elected with little over 25% of the votes, but that's a different story)
That's never even come close to happening in America. It is, however, the norm in parliamentary systems. The current Prime Minister of the Netherlands won with his party receiving 20.5% of the vote, and of Sweden, with his party receiving 31% of the vote.
in 2000, about 24% of Americans voted for GWB. Probably the president with the highest percentage of the population voting for them (I didn't crunch all the numbers, but this is going to be pretty close) is LBJ, who had about 48% vote for him in 64.
Soooo...by never come close you mean has actually happened multiple times.
Meanwhile, the dutch system - yea the PMs party might have only got 20-odd percent but they have alliances with smaller parties. The total percentage the governing parties got is not at hand, but it's probably at least north of 40.
Also, Typho0nn: I don't know what is crazier in that link: The idea that the US is a coproration, or that the CoE is run by the pope. Maybe both.
On topic: I think The republicans are all varying degrees of crazy - Rubio is probably less crazy and more just kind of a fascist. Kasich is probably more or less ok, which means totally unelectable. Sanders thinks big, which is good, but is going to have massive implementation problems. Hillary is business as usual. She seems like the place to put money if betting, as I don't see how any of the republicans can beat her.
Also, Nevallo: Yes, it's true, we get various filtered media - although so do, you know, most americans. It's pretty easy to stay abrest of what is happening - various american sites have pretty good coverage, also there is this thing called twitter in which you can get info direct from the candidates.
Sure, the average Australian knows sweet frack all but that isn't the question. (And, besides, the average australian knows stuff all about Australian politics; that is how we elected the Onion Knight.)
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I was just wondering about how countries that are not the USA and how they view us. But something was prominent, if youre from another country, how do you view this US' election? What are the highlights that you see? Who do you think your country would benefit being elected?
Thank you!
Update as of 2/10: Bernie Sanders won the New Hampshire Primaries for Democrats (49 left for Democrats.) This is a large thing since its showing that he can be a better candidate than Clinton
Thank you!
Beneficial choice- Bernie Sanders
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For one, there's no way you can speak for how every other country than the US sees the US. But also, this is exactly how people in the US see it: in a filtered and biased way, because that's how everyone, everywhere sees such information that isn't directly from the source. The simple fact that people are responsible for the distribution of the information, tells you that there will always be a bias.
And, in any case, in today's era of the internet and easy travel, you can tell very little about what people know from what country they live in.
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Most of them I find quite disinteresting, they don't seem interested in changing anything significant, and I do think significant change is needed. Trump seems like an anti-Sanders, he has an anti-establishment, change-oriented attitude, but in the opposite general direction.
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I think the biggest clown should be president, and that would be Trump... Or Hilldog, either way it will be fun to laugh at the US.
Sanders won't change anything giving 'free' education, he will get the country further into debt and things will get worse, inflation for all.
Ron Paul would have been the only one I really support, but he is old now, and his son doesn't look as good.
If a president was to change something and stick it to the Feral Reserve they would probably get assassinated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110
(The President is the C.E.O of America giving Executive orders ; )
http://presscore.ca/two-constitutions-in-the-united-states-1st-was-illegally-suspended-in-favor-of-a-vatican-crown-corporation-in-1871.html
(Nothing to see here, America has 2 constitutions.... whaaaaa)
The president will just stick to looking after the stock market, and since America economy is mostly war machines, wars will continue.
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Not true. The viewpoints in different media outlets are more diverse within the USA than what you would normally be exposed to elsewhere. This is natural, but still only gives people living outside of that diversity a stilted viewpoint of things.
To be specific, in Australia you essentially only have the AP/NYT viewpoint expressed in the media. They might as well just be changing the byline most of the time. Much of the actual detail and counterpoint is lost. The real lived experience is also non-existent.
For example, it becomes quite humorous to me when I speak to people about current affairs. Issues that are largely irrelevant in context (e.g. Gun laws in a country that already has them) become big talking points.
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Other: R No Rares Red (Standard) -- URC Izzet Tron (Pauper)
The biggest problem is your assumption that local coverage of foreign US affairs is the only relevant or most relevant category to how people see the US. I can assure you that, with the internet, a lot of people read straight US coverage. No matter how you might try to put it, you're making claims you simply can't support because the mediums through which people see US affairs is something that cannot be reliably measured, given that it occurs on such a large scale and with a significant degree of privacy- your evidence will be incomplete.
Furthermore, unless you have been to and lived in every country that is not the USA, you can't really speak for them can you? You (originally at least) spoke as if all of them see the US in the way you are describing when you clearly do not know that. If you mean only Australia, say that.
So you can't talk about changing, adding to or subtracting from existing laws? 'USA already has gun laws' doesn't mean 'gun laws are not an issue in the USA'. In the same way as 'we already have a government' doesn't mean 'government is not an issue'. I get the feeling you meant something more specific here.
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Other: R No Rares Red (Standard) -- URC Izzet Tron (Pauper)
How do you know? Australia has a population of millions of people, how have, or anyone really, profiled all or almost of those people in terms of how much they pay attention to the US? As I said earlier, your data is incomplete. You can suggest this, but you can't present it as fact, because it isn't.
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Besides, your claim that the Australian public just as informed in US politics strikes me as a bit ridicuolous, because they; 1. Have a fraction of their media coverage devoted to it; 2. Do not have as much interest given its not their country; and 3. Have a cultural barrier stemming from being a part of the commonwealth that provides just another layer of misunderstanding. That news from other countries is going to be simplistic and often biased (by various factors) is a fact that is fairly self-evident to anyone who has ever traveled abroad even for a short period.
Edit: What is more interesting to me is that people who are supposedly informed on the matter are generally pretty far off the mark too. This is due to their own cultural differences, mislead preconceptions about the US, and just outright misinformation. It's easy to accept most of these things because there is nothing to challenge their validity in personal experience without seeking out information that is not readily apparent to people who do not know where to look.
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Legacy: R Mono Red Burn -- UWB Stoneblade
Commander: R Krenko, Mob Boss -- WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon -- WUBRG Maze’s End
Other: R No Rares Red (Standard) -- URC Izzet Tron (Pauper)
Not my claim. I am saying that you don't know how well informed they are, you can only make an estimate. You obviously have a sizable amount of data, but not enough to make any strong claims.
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Mate, you can get epistemically pedantic, but I don't really see your point if you are not trying to argue that my initial observation is wrong. We can't absolutely know the Sun will rise next morning, but it doesn't stop us from making the obvious inferences from what we can see.
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Other: R No Rares Red (Standard) -- URC Izzet Tron (Pauper)
I'm sure you can find people that are paying attention to what's going on in America and still wrong about a lot of stuff. I can find them in America too. I think we all remember the study that demonstrated the more you watch a certain news program, the less informed you are about reality than if you watch none at all.
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It does matter when answering the question: "How do people from other countries see the American Election as?"
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Other: R No Rares Red (Standard) -- URC Izzet Tron (Pauper)
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Other: R No Rares Red (Standard) -- URC Izzet Tron (Pauper)
This is the specific individual question from the main post, a call for engaged individuals to share their personal thoughts. It wasn't asking Americans to come in and announce what the rest of the world thinks about America. You can do that if you like, but it's not terribly relevant or reliable.
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And this the main purpose for asking the question you quote. Perhaps my input isn't directly related to the following portion of the question, but it is still relevant to the OP's thread title question and interest in the discussion as I understood it.
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Um... I don't think that assessment of general European attitudes is entirely accurate, especially in light of the events of the past couple of months.
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I'm going to have to agree with BS on this one :S Most of Europe is either turning Socialist or Fascist. Although I do think the libertarian movement is gaining some support. But the system will probably have to collapse to get our freedoms back, dark ages Part 2 bring them on!!!
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Wheres the fascism?
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in 2000, about 24% of Americans voted for GWB. Probably the president with the highest percentage of the population voting for them (I didn't crunch all the numbers, but this is going to be pretty close) is LBJ, who had about 48% vote for him in 64.
Soooo...by never come close you mean has actually happened multiple times.
Meanwhile, the dutch system - yea the PMs party might have only got 20-odd percent but they have alliances with smaller parties. The total percentage the governing parties got is not at hand, but it's probably at least north of 40.
Also, Typho0nn: I don't know what is crazier in that link: The idea that the US is a coproration, or that the CoE is run by the pope. Maybe both.
On topic: I think The republicans are all varying degrees of crazy - Rubio is probably less crazy and more just kind of a fascist. Kasich is probably more or less ok, which means totally unelectable. Sanders thinks big, which is good, but is going to have massive implementation problems. Hillary is business as usual. She seems like the place to put money if betting, as I don't see how any of the republicans can beat her.
Also, Nevallo: Yes, it's true, we get various filtered media - although so do, you know, most americans. It's pretty easy to stay abrest of what is happening - various american sites have pretty good coverage, also there is this thing called twitter in which you can get info direct from the candidates.
Sure, the average Australian knows sweet frack all but that isn't the question. (And, besides, the average australian knows stuff all about Australian politics; that is how we elected the Onion Knight.)