Hello and welcome to my cube list! Essentially I wanted to get my cube to the perfect point where every last pick from the pack wasn't something that nobody wanted, but what someone had to choose between (Lets just say it has evolved A LOT over time). For this reason, I'd decided to trim my Multi-colored list from 3 of each down to 2, adding 2 to each color (which was a GREAT help), explaining my reason for 52 of each color, rather than 50.
Another note is that Mind Twist and Library of Alexandria were intentionally removed to maintain balance. My cube group and I decided they were too strong.
ALL CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISMS ARE WELCOMED AND ENCOURAGED!!!
Basic Information Cube Size: 360 Snow Lands: No Average Number of Players: 2-8 How Often Drafted: Minimum once per week
Card Selection Proxies: Yes Powered: No "Un" Cards: No Banned Cards: Mind Twist, Library of Alexandria
Cube Design Sideboards?: Yes Color Balance: 52 in all 5 colors Gold Balance: 2 of each (lands separate) Lands: 40 (consists of Vivids, Shocks, Duals, Fetches, and 5 Misc.) Colorless: 40 (counts Maze of Ith)
Thanks for the post eidolon!
That is quite the list of cards, there It is probably going to take me a little while longer to examine the list of recommended cards, and I know there's a few in there that I want to have in here, and actually last night before I posted it, I had a hard time doing it, but I had to cut Celestial Colonnade + Raging Ravine purely for the purpose of posting because they were the only multi-colored manlands I had left in there. I'm probably going to work back another multi-colored card for each pair in there tonight.
On the list of AVR cards: (I'm also still testing most of them) Cathedral Sanctifier: I have a personal attraction to this card, as I've always loved Lone Missionary. Every time I've played it, its done very well. Divine Deflection: I haven't personally had the chance to use it yet, but I feel its still able to work wonders. It stops that aggro deck from swinging out at you when you have no creatures, and it can also have a 1/1 token trade with a Sun Titan, for example. Temporal Mastery: I know that all miracle cards are debatable.:D But I felt like a conditional Time Walk wouldn't be a bad addition. Currently still testing. Stolen Goods: This card is currently still testing, but its probably going to be one of my first cuts from that list. I understand its why its questioned completely. Demonic Taskmaster: I feel this card's mana-efficiency is through the roof, exceeding that of, say a Necrogen Scudder or even Serendib Efreet. 3 CMC 4/3 flyer is wonderful, and he can even sacrifice creatures that want to be sacrificed i.e. Solemn Simulacrum. Demonlord of Ashmouth: This card is even better that the Demonic Taskmaster listed above. Sacrifice one creature for a 4 CMC 5/4 flyer, who is also undying. I believe that speaks for itself in a cube format. Killing Wave: I'm curious to see just what this card is capable of in cube format. Stonewright: This card struck my interest, as do most Soulbonders, I feel he can have himself and anyone else trade well. Still testing. Archwing Dragon: I like the potential of this card. Its like having a 4 mana burn spell that you continuously Buyback. I like how he can only be killed instant speed if they have no fliers. Hound of Griselbrand: This guy is questionable, but I feel he can be quite strong. i.e. Dropping him, then wrath the board next turn after swinging. Still debatable in the end I suppose. Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded: This guy is here purely out of curiosity. I wanted to see what he could do. I definitely hate the random discard part, but he is an imminent threat on board. If he's not dealt with he can be mean. Bonfire of the Damned: The other miracle card I included. I feel the miracle cost is great, but even its original mana cost is not that bad. Its almost like a one-sided Earthquake. Moonsilver Spear: Probably the other on the top list of cutting, but I wanted to give it a chance. When equipped, it makes its own spear-chukkers But in the end, it is rather expensive. (Plus I have the pre-release version and it looks awesome:P)
So that's my take on the AVR cards, I'd like to hear your opinion on them too!
And I also was wondering if you personally thought I was lacking or overcompensating in anywhere in particular, because its going to be tough to cut. My next post will be concerning the long list of unusual/recommended cards. That will come later, though. Thanks!
@Eidolon
I've done a lot a cube editing in the past week and ended up cutting most of the cards that were on the above list.
I've also made it a point to boost my land destruction.
I feel like I need to explain my reasons for keeping these two: Demonic Taskmaster: You don't need to feed him to keep him alive (assuming he is your only creature in play) Stonewright: Has effectiveness late game as well as early
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Another note is that Mind Twist and Library of Alexandria were intentionally removed to maintain balance. My cube group and I decided they were too strong.
ALL CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISMS ARE WELCOMED AND ENCOURAGED!!!
Basic Information
Cube Size: 360
Snow Lands: No
Average Number of Players: 2-8
How Often Drafted: Minimum once per week
Card Selection
Proxies: Yes
Powered: No
"Un" Cards: No
Banned Cards: Mind Twist, Library of Alexandria
Cube Design
Sideboards?: Yes
Color Balance: 52 in all 5 colors
Gold Balance: 2 of each (lands separate)
Lands: 40 (consists of Vivids, Shocks, Duals, Fetches, and 5 Misc.)
Colorless: 40 (counts Maze of Ith)
1 Cathedral Sanctifier
1 Elite Vanguard
1 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
1 Mother of Runes
1 Savannah Lions
1 Student of Warfare
Two CMC
1 Accorder Paladin
1 Kor Skyfisher
1 Lone Missionary
1 Porcelain Legionnaire
1 Soltari Monk
1 Soltari Priest
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Wall of Omens
1 Blade Splicer
1 Flickerwisp
1 Mirran Crusader
1 Paladin en-Vec
1 Silverblade Paladin
1 Soltari Champion
Four CMC
1 Galepowder Mage
1 Hero of Bladehold
1 Kor Sanctifiers
1 Ranger of Eos
1 Restoration Angel
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Cloudgoat Ranger
1 Reveillark
Six Plus
1 Sun Titan
X Cost
1 Mikaeus, the Lunarch
1 Cloudshift
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Land Tax
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
Two CMC
1 Balance
1 Disenchant
1 Journey to Nowhere
1 Lingering Souls
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Timely Reinforcements
Four CMC
1 Armageddon
1 Day of Judgment
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Ravages of War
1 Wrath of God
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Gideon Jura
1 Hallowed Burial
X Cost
1 Decree of Justice
1 Divine Deflection
1 Merfolk Looter
1 Ninja of the Deep Hours
1 Phantasmal Image
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Waterfront Bouncer
1 Fettergeist
1 Kira, Great Glass Spinner
1 Man-o'-War
1 Serendib Efreet
1 Tandem Lookout
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Dungeon Geists
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
Five CMC
1 Mulldrifter
1 Morphling
1 Academy Ruins
1 Faerie Conclave
1 Force of Will
One CMC
1 Brainstorm
1 Force Spike
1 Ponder
1 Preordain
1 Stifle
Two CMC
1 Counterspell
1 Impulse
1 Mana Drain
1 Mana Leak
1 Miscalculation
1 Remand
1 Spreading Seas
1 Complicate
1 Crystal Shard
1 Forbid
1 Frantic Search
1 Jace Beleren
1 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Tinker
1 Vedalken Shackles
Four CMC
1 Control Magic
1 Cryptic Command
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Bribery
1 Jace, Memory Adept
1 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
1 Time Warp
1 Treachery
X Cost
1 Condescend
1 Repeal
1 Carnophage
1 Diregraf Ghoul
1 Fume Spitter
1 Vampire Lacerator
1 Vault Skirge
Two CMC
1 Bloodghast
1 Dark Confidant
1 Nezumi Graverobber
1 Oona's Prowler
1 Vampire Hexmage
1 Demonic Taskmaster
1 Hypnotic Specter
1 Necrogen Scudder
1 Vampire Nighthawk
Four CMC
1 Abyssal Persecutor
1 Demonlord of Ashmouth
1 Graveborn Muse
1 Juzam Djinn
1 Nekrataal
1 Phyrexian Scuta
1 Skinrender
1 Shriekmaw
Six Plus
1 Grave Titan
1 Tombstalker
1 Volrath's Stronghold
One CMC
1 Dark Ritual
1 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Reanimate
1 Thoughtseize
1 Tragic Slip
1 Vampiric Tutor
Two CMC
1 Animate Dead
1 Bitterblossom
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Doom Blade
1 Go for the Throat
1 Hymn to Tourach
1 Night's Whisper
1 Sinkhole
1 Dismember
1 Liliana of the Veil
1 Necromancy
1 Rancid Earth
1 Recurring Nightmare
Four CMC
1 Ancient Craving
1 Befoul
1 Damnation
1 Nether Void
1 Liliana Vess
X Cost
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Dragonmaster Outcast
1 Goblin Guide
1 Greater Gargadon
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Spikeshot Elder
1 Stonewright
1 Stromkirk Noble
Two CMC
1 Fireslinger
1 Hellspark Elemental
1 Keldon Marauders
1 Lightning Mauler
1 Plated Geopede
1 Stormblood Berserker
1 Torch Fiend
1 Chandra's Phoenix
1 Cunning Sparkmage
1 Goblin Ruinblaster
1 Hell's Thunder
1 Magus of the Moon
1 Manic Vandal
Four CMC
1 Avalanche Riders
1 Flametongue Kavu
1 Hero of Oxid Ridge
1 Hound of Griselbrand
1 Ravenous Baboons
1 Siege-Gang Commander
Six Plus
1 Inferno Titan
1 Burst Lightning
1 Chain Lightning
1 Faithless Looting
1 Firebolt
1 Lightning Bolt
Two CMC
1 Arc Trail
1 Incinerate
1 Magma Jet
1 Brimstone Volley
1 Char
1 Molten Rain
1 Pillage
1 Slagstorm
1 Staggershock
1 Stone Rain
1 Sulfuric Vortex
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Aftershock
1 Chandra, the Firebrand
1 Koth of the Hammer
Five CMC
1 Chandra Nalaar
Six CMC
1 Wildfire
X Cost
1 Banefire
1 Red Sun's Zenith
1 Rolling Earthquake
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Joraga Treespeaker
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Noble Hierarch
1 Pouncing Jaguar
1 Twinblade Slasher
1 Wild Dogs
1 Wild Nacatl
Two CMC
1 Beastbreaker of Bala Ged
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Mire Boa
1 River Boa
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Skinshifter
1 Strangleroot Geist
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Eternal Witness
1 Ohran Viper
1 Troll Ascetic
1 Viridian Shaman
1 Wolfir Avenger
1 Yavimaya Elder
Four CMC
1 Blastoderm
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Obstinate Baloth
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
Five CMC
1 Acidic Slime
1 Deranged Hermit
1 Genesis
1 Indrik Stomphowler
1 Thornling
1 Wolfir Silverheart
1 Primeval Titan
1 Terastodon
1 Treetop Village
One CMC
1 Rancor
Two CMC
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Sylvan Library
Three CMC
1 Beast Within
1 Cultivate
1 Harrow
1 Ice Storm
1 Krosan Grip
1 Krosan Tusker
1 Creeping Mold
1 Garruk Relentless
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Harmonize
1 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
1 Plow Under
1 Venser, the Sojourner
1 Wall of Denial
Blue/Black
1 Dimir Cutpurse
1 Shadowmage Infiltrator
Black/Red
1 Bituminous Blast
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Bloodbraid Elf
1 Sarkhan Vol
Green/White
1 Enlisted Wurm
1 Kitchen Finks
White/Black
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Vindicate
1 Electrolyze
1 Fire // Ice
Black/Green
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Pernicious Deed
Red/White
1 Ajani Vengeant
1 Figure of Destiny
1 Simic Skyswallower
1 Trygon Predator
1 Hex Parasite
1 Molten-Tail Masticore
1 Myr Battlesphere
1 Spellskite
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Sundering Titan
1 Wurmcoil Engine
Equipments
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Grafted Wargear
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Skullclamp
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of War and Peace
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Basalt Monolith
1 Coalition Relic
1 Grim Monolith
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Vault
1 Sol Ring
Miscellaneous
1 Aether Vial
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Erratic Portal
1 Icy Manipulator
1 Isochron Scepter
1 Karn Liberated
1 Maze of Ith
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Powder Keg
1 Ratchet Bomb
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Shrine of Burning Rage
1 Shrine of Loyal Legions
1 Smokestack
1 Staff of Domination
1 Tangle Wire
1 Vivid Crag
1 Vivid Creek
1 Vivid Grove
1 Vivid Marsh
1 Vivid Meadow
Shocks
1 Blood Crypt
1 Breeding Pool
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
1 Watery Grave
1 Badlands
1 Bayou
1 Plateau
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
1 Taiga
1 Tropical Island
1 Tundra
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
Fetches
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Flooded Strand
1 Marsh Flats
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 City of Ass
1 City of Brass
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Mutavault
1 Strip Mine
1 Wasteland
That is quite the list of cards, there
On the list of AVR cards: (I'm also still testing most of them)
Cathedral Sanctifier: I have a personal attraction to this card, as I've always loved Lone Missionary. Every time I've played it, its done very well.
Divine Deflection: I haven't personally had the chance to use it yet, but I feel its still able to work wonders. It stops that aggro deck from swinging out at you when you have no creatures, and it can also have a 1/1 token trade with a Sun Titan, for example.
Temporal Mastery: I know that all miracle cards are debatable.:D But I felt like a conditional Time Walk wouldn't be a bad addition. Currently still testing.
Stolen Goods: This card is currently still testing, but its probably going to be one of my first cuts from that list. I understand its why its questioned completely.
Demonic Taskmaster: I feel this card's mana-efficiency is through the roof, exceeding that of, say a Necrogen Scudder or even Serendib Efreet. 3 CMC 4/3 flyer is wonderful, and he can even sacrifice creatures that want to be sacrificed i.e. Solemn Simulacrum.
Demonlord of Ashmouth: This card is even better that the Demonic Taskmaster listed above. Sacrifice one creature for a 4 CMC 5/4 flyer, who is also undying. I believe that speaks for itself in a cube format.
Killing Wave: I'm curious to see just what this card is capable of in cube format.
Stonewright: This card struck my interest, as do most Soulbonders, I feel he can have himself and anyone else trade well. Still testing.
Archwing Dragon: I like the potential of this card. Its like having a 4 mana burn spell that you continuously Buyback. I like how he can only be killed instant speed if they have no fliers.
Hound of Griselbrand: This guy is questionable, but I feel he can be quite strong. i.e. Dropping him, then wrath the board next turn after swinging. Still debatable in the end I suppose.
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded: This guy is here purely out of curiosity. I wanted to see what he could do. I definitely hate the random discard part, but he is an imminent threat on board. If he's not dealt with he can be mean.
Bonfire of the Damned: The other miracle card I included. I feel the miracle cost is great, but even its original mana cost is not that bad. Its almost like a one-sided Earthquake.
Moonsilver Spear: Probably the other on the top list of cutting, but I wanted to give it a chance. When equipped, it makes its own spear-chukkers
So that's my take on the AVR cards, I'd like to hear your opinion on them too!
And I also was wondering if you personally thought I was lacking or overcompensating in anywhere in particular, because its going to be tough to cut. My next post will be concerning the long list of unusual/recommended cards. That will come later, though. Thanks!
I've done a lot a cube editing in the past week and ended up cutting most of the cards that were on the above list.
I've also made it a point to boost my land destruction.
I feel like I need to explain my reasons for keeping these two:
Demonic Taskmaster: You don't need to feed him to keep him alive (assuming he is your only creature in play)
Stonewright: Has effectiveness late game as well as early