Alot of people here have powered cubes/pauper cubes/common and uncommon cubes, so there's alot of material for easy reference in building such cubes, am wondering has anyone tried building a crap cube?
i've read stories of how the magic developers draft with their crap rares and it was a refreshing change to be thrashed by chimney imps or be able to attack with a 5/2 haste molten sentry. AM in the midst of consolidating my crap cards but realised its quite difficult to balance the cards to support the various deck types as most of the cards are really quite crap.
has anyone tried playing or building with a crap cube before here?
i don't know if anyone has actually built one but that's a good place to start and if necessary add more information. i am interested in the concept but i haven't started building yet.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
Thanks for the feedback guys, didnt know about the term spheres.
quitequieter - the link has been very helpful, appreciate the material there and agree with alot of your comments, the cards chosen while crappy need to serve a certain purpose, they still need to be useable and affect the game, therein lies the fun and challenge of buidling the sphere ;p
fault line and the honden are way too good for a sphere, but i think we have a winner with eater of days. it might be too good, but two turns is pretty brutal.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
About six weeks ago, building a crap cube was more or less my goal--stuff it with as many fun bad dirt cheap rares as possible. Then this forum community showed me how cheap and easy it was to make a reasonable "real" cube, and my cube has shifted... Maybe I will go back and make a crap cube, though...
It's actually a lot of fun...these are cards I played with when I first got into Magic, and then never saw again, as the drive to make a decent deck began.
It's actually a lot of fun...these are cards I played with when I first got into Magic, and then never saw again, as the drive to make a decent deck began.
on the other end of the spectrum, stuff like wood elemental and north star are so terrible that i doubt anyone would ever actually put them in a deck, which kind of defeats the purpose of them being in the cube. do these cards ever get played?
anyway, nice job and this makes me want to get my own sphere together!
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
on the other end of the spectrum, stuff like wood elemental and north star are so terrible that i doubt anyone would ever actually put them in a deck, which kind of defeats the purpose of them being in the cube. do these cards ever get played?
anyway, nice job and this makes me want to get my own sphere together!
I won't mind putting North Star into my deck just because of the art. lol.
I should have probably explained a little better when I first posted. This isn't exactly a completely terrible cube. It started out that way, but cards like Icatian Money Changers just aren't that much fun...they're just bad. Over time it kind of morphed from the worst cube in the world to more of a bunch of old-fashioned cards I liked when I first started playing Magic. That's why say, North Star makes the cut...although people do occasionally use it in multi-colored decks. Wood Elemental is terrible...but sometimes you just need a 23rd card...and hey, once in a while, he's a monster...and those are the games you talk about!
I should note that some of the cards in the cube aren't bad at all...and even make "real" cubes. That's because if it's just a cube of terrible stuff, games devolve into looooong stalemates. You need some removal (even if it isn't Go For the Throat), and you need some evasion.
I got as list up and running. I'll see if I can post it online sometime soon since it was taking from a really nice Aussie guy of whom I don't quiet recall the name at the moment. I'll give him credit for it and post it sometime this week maybe. (With pictures!)
i've read stories of how the magic developers draft with their crap rares and it was a refreshing change to be thrashed by chimney imps or be able to attack with a 5/2 haste molten sentry. AM in the midst of consolidating my crap cards but realised its quite difficult to balance the cards to support the various deck types as most of the cards are really quite crap.
has anyone tried playing or building with a crap cube before here?
i don't know if anyone has actually built one but that's a good place to start and if necessary add more information. i am interested in the concept but i haven't started building yet.
quitequieter - the link has been very helpful, appreciate the material there and agree with alot of your comments, the cards chosen while crappy need to serve a certain purpose, they still need to be useable and affect the game, therein lies the fun and challenge of buidling the sphere ;p
My $40 MTGO cube
Draft my cube at Cubetutor!
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It's actually a lot of fun...these are cards I played with when I first got into Magic, and then never saw again, as the drive to make a decent deck began.
i love the list, but you have a few solid cards in there that i don't think are bad enough for a sphere: brass man, elixir of immortality, arcane denial, peel from reality, puncturing light, neck snap, saltblast, goblin arsonist, deadwood treefolk, lignify, etc all seem too good. arcane denial especially, since plenty of us run it in our powered cubes. a lot of the rest of those cards are excellent in their own limited formats and i'm sure there's some i missed.
on the other end of the spectrum, stuff like wood elemental and north star are so terrible that i doubt anyone would ever actually put them in a deck, which kind of defeats the purpose of them being in the cube. do these cards ever get played?
anyway, nice job and this makes me want to get my own sphere together!
I won't mind putting North Star into my deck just because of the art. lol.
My cube
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I should note that some of the cards in the cube aren't bad at all...and even make "real" cubes. That's because if it's just a cube of terrible stuff, games devolve into looooong stalemates. You need some removal (even if it isn't Go For the Throat), and you need some evasion.
360 Cards Sphere: The Junk Cube