So i decided to build a cube. After looking through various lists i decided on using TSG's list as a starting point. I love cube drafting because it gives you so many different options/card interactions. Im posting the list here for help on personalizing more and getting other p.o.v. and ideas.
Contents:
*94 of each color
*80 Artifacts
*55 Multi colored
*80 Lands
* No Un or Ante cards
* No Power 9 for now
Adding Mortify
Cutting:
Iridescent Angel
Pride of the Clouds
Spite/Malice
Ashenmoor Gouger
Hellhole rats
Tattermunge Maniac
Burning-Tree Shaman
Novablast Wurm
Death grasp
Angel of Despair
Rise of the Hobgoblins
Goblin Legionaire
Double Negative
Call the Skybreaker
Spitting Image
Snakeform
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Necrogenesis
All Tri-Color Except for Nicol Bolas
Platinum Angel to Wurmcoil Engine
Faceless Butcher to Skinrender
Crovax, Ascendant Hero to Sun Titan
Hoofprints of the Stag to Whipcorder
Judge Unworthy to Journey to Nowhere
Jihad to Glorious Anthem
Preacher to Scepter of Dominance
Windborn Muse to Kor Sanctifiers
Winds of Rath to Mana Tithe
Voice of All to Mirror Entity
Old Man of the Sea to Aether Adept
Read the Runes to Condesend
Sun Ce to Draining Whelk
Treasure Hunt to Into the Roil
Brilliant Plan to Enclave Cryptologist
Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet to Grave Titan
Tainted Pact to Doom Blade
Stromgald Crusader to Liliana's Specter
Ogre Arsonist to Hell's Thunder
Mogg Flunkies to Hellspark Elemental
Sonic Burst to Flame Slash
Fiery Temper to Arc Lightning
Goblin Settler to Dwarven Blastminer
Brooding Saurian to Creeping Mold
Erhnam Djinn to Rampaging baloths
Forgotten Ancient to Acidic Slime
Chaos Orb to Engineered Explosives
Grid Monitor to Phyrexian Processor
Helm of Obedience to Erratic Portal
Ark of Blight to Smokestack
Adding Knight of the Meadowgrain
Adding Condemn
Adding Lone Missionary
Adding Flickerwisp
Adding Inkwell Leviathan
Adding Ancestral Visions
Adding Kira Glass Spinner
Adding Time Spiral
Adding Rite of Replication
Subtract Dominating Licid
Adding Dark Ritual
Adding Black Knight
Adding Yawgmoth's Will
Adding Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
Subtracting Predatory Nightstalker
Adding Reanimate
Adding Inferno Titan
Adding Pryoclasm
Subtract Obliterate
Adding Forked Bolt
Adding Firebolt
Adding Browbeat
Adding Magus of the Scroll
Subtract Flowstone Flood
Adding Fauna Shaman
Adding Lotus Cobra
Adding Cultivate
Adding Obstinate Baloth
Adding Basilisk Collar
Adding Isochron Scepter
Adding Crystal ball
Adding Sword of Vengence
Adding Obelisk of Alara
Alright, thanks for all the help thus far Eidolon! I made a few changes and added a few "excluded" cards. I havent tested it yet, have been busy with work and still need to pick up a few cards, should hopefully get a couple sessions in this month. Any other suggestions of thoughts on the changes/additions?
The changes look great. I'd do about 5 drafts before making any changes, and keep notes of under-performing cards, etc... make more changes after you have some more data.
Other than that, eodolon's list is a good place to start if you don't have a lot of time to playtest and you're looking for some "tried and true" inclusions. His program takes your cube and automatically compares it to other cubes of similar sizes. So those results are pretty much the same one we'd give you over time anyways.
Possible SoM inclusions? I might have to test out:
Creeping Mold---> Slice in Twain. Same cost, instant, and draw in place of ld.
Engineered Explosives---> Ratchet Bomb. Doesnt require you to play a 2+ color deck. Down side: Cant blow stuff up the turn you put a counter on it.. too slow?
Masticore---> Molten Tail Mastisore. same cc, same p/t. but lets you re-use cards in grave for another purpose (4 damage to either player or creature compared to 1 damage to creature).
Also like Wurmcoil Engine. What do you think?
Wow, you seem to dislike Slice in twian. I didnt really think about the masticores that way. I thought about cutting bosh for him, but i suppose that read could prob put MTM to better use than bosh. Platinum costs 4 and Wurmcoil costs 6. But i deffinatley think that wurmcoil is crazy good. I'll have to try it out. Are there any other cards you think are cube worthy from SoM?
Replaced Strategic Planning with Sea Gate Oracle. I figure, if your going to play it at sorcery speed, you might as well get a 1/3 for one more.
Replaced Grim Tutor with Cruel Tutor. I have enough draw abilities that on top of library should be no problem. Save a life and doesnt require BB. Will test more.
Replaced Burning of Xyine with Destructive Force. Helps gett rid of more fatties. Again, will be testing it.
Replacing Brilliant Plan with Jace's Ingenuity. Instant draw is awesome.
Replaced Bonesplitter with Sword of Body and Mind
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
Aether Vial out--> Bonesplitter Back in
D-force out--> Burning of Xinye in
SoM considerations:
Mask of Memory--> Infiltration Lens. Cheaper to cast. And you either get the damage through or get the bonus.
Faceless Butcher-->Skinrender. Has bigger fists and can kill a creature rather than just moving it.
Platinum Angel--> Wurmcoil Engine.
Admonition Angel--> Sunblast Angel.
Anowon--> Geth
Grafted Wargear--> Nim Deathmantle
Bosh--> Molten-Tail Masticore
i like it, but any kinda of shatter effect makes it a 2 for one, 3 for 1 if its a creature with the effect (viridian shaman, manic vandals..). the down side to the mantle is the extensive cost.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
Im possisbly cutting down multi colored by 2 cards for each combination:
Iridescent Angel
Pride of the Clouds
Spite/Malice
Blazing Specter--> Ashenmoor Gouger
Hellhole rats
Tattermunge Maniac
Stormbind--> Burning-Tree Shaman
Novablast Wurm
Death grasp
Rise of the Hobgoblins
Goblin Trenches
Double Negative
Call the Skybreaker
Spitting Image
Snakeform
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Necrogenesis
All Tri-Color Except for Nicol Bolas
desolation angel is the second best w/b card you run. i'd drop every card on that list except vindicate before i dropped the angel. also, you need to get a mortify.
the only 3 color card in your cube that you shouldn't cut is nicol bolas, planeswalker. the rest can go.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
All of qq's advice is solid. I will probably never cut Oona, Stormbind, or Desolation Angel from my cube. They are the in the top 3 cards in their color pairs.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
I kept in Renegades over Shaman. I dont see shaman played that often, and i would rather have the artifact destruction in this case. I cut all tri-color except for NBP, Its very rare they see play. I kept in Oona and Wake w/o cutting. I see the cuttables in those colors played too often to exclude. Will cut angel of despair for the desolation as well as legionaire for the trenches. As well as adding mortify, idk why it wasnt originally in.
I kept in Renegades over Shaman. I dont see shaman played that often, and i would rather have the artifact destruction in this case. I cut all tri-color except for NBP, Its very rare they see play. I kept in Oona and Wake w/o cutting. I see the cuttables in those colors played too often to exclude. Will cut angel of despair for the desolation as well as legionaire for the trenches. As well as adding mortify, idk why it wasnt originally in.
sounds good. vithian renegades is a great card, in either color it would be an autoinclude. the only reason not to include it is the smaller multicolor sections. it is outclassed by its competitors.
When I see Healing Salve, I'm often like "Oh girl, I wish I could turn every card into this." Thanks they removed the gain life part, otherwise this would have been broken.
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Contents:
*94 of each color
*80 Artifacts
*55 Multi colored
*80 Lands
* No Un or Ante cards
* No Power 9 for now
Gameday
Collector's Edition
Magic Player Rewards
//Creatures:
1 Loam LionFoil
1 Student of Warfare
1 Steppe Lynx
1 Savannah Lions
1 Mother of RunesFoil
1 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
1 Elite VanguardFoil
1 White KnightFoil
1 Wall of Omens
1 Soltari Trooper
1 Soltari Priest
1 Soltari Monk
1 Sigiled PaladinFoil
1 Serra Avenger
1 Samurai of the Pale CurtainFoil
1 Goldmeadow HarrierFoil
1 Knight of the Meadowgrain
1 Kor SkyfisherFoil
1 Lone missionaryFoil
1 Kor FirewalkerFoil
1 Knight of the White Orchid
1 Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
1 FlickerwispFoil
1 Soltari Champion
1 Paladin en-Vec
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Mirror Entity
1 Kor SantifiersFoil
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Hokori, Dust Drinker
1 Emeria Angel
1 Celestial CrusaderFoil
1 CalcidermFoil
1 World QuellerFoil
1 Reveillark
1 Karmic Guide
1 Cloudgoat RangerFoil
1 Battlegrace AngelFoil
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Archon of Justice
1 Yosei, the Morning Star
1 Pristine Angel
1 Exalted Angel
1 Sun TitanFoil
1 Captain of the WatchFoil
1 Admonition Angel
1 Eternal Dragon
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
//Spells:
1 Mana Tithe
1 Condemn
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Path to ExileFoil
1 Land Tax
1 Harm's WayFoil
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Journey to NowhereFoil
1 Honor of the PureFoil
1 Disenchant
1 Crusade
1 BalanceFoil
1 Wing ShardsFoil
1 Spectral Procession
1 Scepter of DominanceFoil
1 Renewed FaithFoil
1 Radiant's JudgmentFoil
1 Pulse of the FieldsFoil
1 Oblivion RingFoil
1 Mobilization
1 Glorious AnthemFoil
1 Griffin GuideFoil
1 Exile
1 Dismantling Blow
1 Cage of HandsFoil
1 Aura of SilenceFoil
1 Wrath of God
1 Ravages of War
1 Parallax Wave
1 Moat
1 Marshal's Anthem
1 Faith's FettersFoil
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Day of JudgmentFoil
1 Cataclysm
1 Armageddon
1 Ajani GoldmaneFoil
1 Rout
1 Gideon Jura
1 Conqueror's Pledge
1 Catastrophe
1 Austere Command
1 Akroma's Vengeance
1 Martial Coup
1 Decree of Justice
//Creatures:
1 Waterfront Bouncer
1 Merfolk LooterFoil
1 Looter il-KorFoil
1 Gilded Drake
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Serendib EfreetFoil
1 Sea Drake
1 Riptide SurvivorFoil
1 Aether AdeptFoil
1 Sea Gate Oracle
1 Man-o'-War
1 Kira, Great Glass Spinner
1 Calcite SnapperFoil
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
1 Tradewind Rider
1 Thieving Magpie
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Ninja of the Deep Hours
1 Lu Xun, Scholar General
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 CloneFoil
1 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
1 Vesuvan Doppelganger
1 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
1 Draining Whelk
1 Mulldrifter
1 Morphling
1 Meloku the Clouded Mirror
1 Enclave CryptologistFoil
1 Ethersworn Adjudicator
1 Aeon Chronicler
1 Sphinx of Jwar IsleFoil
1 Keiga, the Tide Star
1 Palinchron
1 Inkwell Leviathan
//Spells:
1 Ponder
1 Ancestral Vision
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Force Spike
1 BrainstormFoil
1 Into the RoilFoil
1 Remove Soul
1 RemandFoil
1 Miscalculation
1 Memory Lapse
1 Mana Leak
1 Mana Drain
1 Legacy's Allure
1 ImpulseFoil
1 DepriveFoil
1 Counterspell
1 TinkerFoil
1 Thirst for KnowledgeFoil
1 Psionic Blast
1 Jace BelerenFoil
1 Hinder
1 Frantic Search
1 Forbid
1 Exclude
1 Dissipate
1 Compulsive ResearchFoil
1 Complicate
1 ThwartFoil
1 RewindFoil
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Rite of Replication
1 Dismiss
1 Deep AnalysisFoil
1 Cryptic Command
1 Control Magic
1 Careful Consideration
1 Treachery
1 Persuasion
1 Pact of Negation
1 Mind ControlFoil
1 Future Sight
1 Force of Will
1 Desertion
1 Jace's Ingenuity
1 Bribery
1 Time Spiral
1 Upheaval
1 Confiscate
1 Capsize
1 Take Possession
1 Decree of SilenceFoil
1 SyncopateFoil
1 Repeal
1 Read the Runes
1 Power Sink
1 Braingeyser
1 Stroke of Genius
//Creatures:
1 Vampire LaceratorFoil
1 Wretched AnuridFoil
1 Withered WretchFoil
1 Vampire HexmageFoil
1 Skittering Skirge
1 Oona's Prowler
1 Nezumi ShortfangFoil
1 Nezumi GraverobberFoil
1 Nantuko Shade
1 Black KnightFoil
1 Gatekeeper of MalakirFoil
1 Dauthi Slayer
1 Dark Confidant
1 Cabal InterrogatorFoil
1 Bloodghast
1 Liliana's Specter
1 Vampire NighthawkFoil
1 Undead Gladiator
1 Phyrexian NegatorFoil
1 Nyxathid
1 Hypnotic SpecterFoil
1 Bone Shredder
1 Arrogant BloodlordFoil
1 Vampire NocturnusFoil
1 Phyrexian Scuta
1 Nekrataal
1 Mirri the Cursed
1 Juzam Djinn
1 Graveborn Muse
1 SkinrenderFoil
1 Braids, Cabal Minion
1 Abyssal Persecutor
1 Thrashing Wumpus
1 ShriekmawFoil
1 Okiba-Gang ShinobiFoil
1 Malakir BloodwitchFoil
1 Kagemaro, First to SufferFoil
1 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
1 Drana, Kalastria BloodchiefFoil
1 Anowon, the Ruin SageFoil
1 Visara the Dreadful
1 Skeletal Vampire
1 Laquatus's ChampionFoil
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Ink-Eyes, Servant of OniFoil
1 Grave Titan
//Spells
1 Dark Ritual
1 Reanimate
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Thoughtseize
1 Quest for the GravelordFoil
1 Innocent Blood
1 Duress
1 Terror
1 Doom BladeFoil
1 SmotherFoil
1 Sign in Blood
1 Hymn to Tourach
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Chainer's Edict
1 Bitterblossom
1 Animate Dead
1 Sinkhole
1 Sudden Death
1 Yawgmoth's will
1 Stupor
1 Slaughter Pact
1 Recurring Nightmare
1 Rancid EarthFoil
1 Rain of TearsFoil
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 NecropotenceFoil
1 Necromancy
1 Cruel Tutor
1 Corpse Dance
1 Choking Sands
1 The Abyss
1 Snuff Out
1 Makeshift Mannequin
1 Damnation
1 Consuming Vapors
1 BefoulFoil
1 Barter in BloodFoil
1 Ancient Craving
1 Living Death
1 Liliana VessFoil
1 Dakmor Plague
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Sorin Markov
1 Decree of Pain
1 Skeletal Scrying
1 Mind Twist
1 Profane Command
//Creatures:
1 Kird ApeFoil
1 Magus of the Scroll
1 Jackal Pup
1 Grim Lavamancer
1 Goblin Welder
1 Goblin Patrol
1 Goblin Guide
1 Dragonmaster Outcast
1 Slith FirewalkerFoil
1 Plated GeopedeFoil
1 Hellspark ElementalFoil
1 Keldon Marauders
1 Dwarven BlastminerFoil
1 Kargan Dragonlord
1 Hearth KamiFoil
1 Zo-Zu the PunisherFoil
1 Sulfur Elemental
1 Magus of the Moon
1 Keldon Vandals
1 Jaya Ballard, Task MageFoil
1 Goblin RuinblasterFoil
1 Ghitu SlingerFoil
1 Countryside Crusher
1 Ball LightningFoil
1 Skizzik
1 Ravenous Baboons
1 Keldon Champion
1 Jeska, Warrior Adept
1 Flametongue KavuFoil
1 Cragganwick CrematorFoil
1 Changeling Berserker
1 Blistering Firecat
1 Avalanche Riders
1 ThunderblustFoil
1 Siege-Gang CommanderFoil
1 Ravaging Horde
1 Hell's Thunder
1 Kumano, Master YamabushiFoil
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Gathan RaidersFoil
1 Shivan DragonFoil
1 Rorix Bladewing
1 Flameblast DragonFoil
1 Bogardan HellkiteFoil
1 Inferno Titan
1 Akroma, Angel of Fury
1 Greater Gargadon
//Spells:
1 Lightning Bolt
1 Gamble
1 Flame SlashFoil
1 Forked BoltFoil
1 FireboltFoil
1 Chain Lightning
1 Burst Lightning
1 Volcanic Hammer
1 Tribal Flames
1 Sudden Shock
1 Smash to SmithereensFoil
1 Shrapnel BlastFoil
1 Magma JetFoil
1 Incinerate
1 Pyroclasm
1 Fork
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Volcanic Fallout
1 Browbeat
1 Urza's RageFoil
1 Sulfuric Vortex
1 Stone RainFoil
1 Staggershock
1 Seismic Assault
1 Rift BoltFoil
1 Pillage
1 Molten RainFoil
1 Flame Javelin
1 Arc Lightning
1 CharFoil
1 CarbonizeFoil
1 Violent EruptionFoil
1 ManabarbsFoil
1 Grab the ReinsFoil
1 Word of Seizing
1 Chandra NalaarFoil
1 WildfireFoil
1 Fireblast
1 Destructive Force
1 Rolling Earthquake
1 Kaervek's Torch
1 Fireball
1 EarthquakeFoil
1 Demonfire
1 Banefire
1 Starstorm
1 Comet StormFoil
//Creatures:
1 Wild NacatlFoil
1 Wild Dogs
1 Twinblade SlasherFoil
1 Pouncing JaguarFoil
1 Noble Hierarch
1 Llanowar ElvesFoil
1 Jungle Lion
1 Ghazban Ogre
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Basking Rootwalla
1 Arbor ElfFoil
1 Wild MongrelFoil
1 Wall of Roots
1 Wall of Blossoms
1 Vinelasher Kudzu
1 Tarmogoyf
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 River BoaFoil
1 Mire BoaFoil
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Albino Troll
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Viridian ShamanFoil
1 Troll AsceticFoil
1 Thornscape BattlemageFoil
1 Simian GruntsFoil
1 Ohran Viper
1 Loaming ShamanFoil
1 Leatherback BalothFoil
1 Imperious Perfect
1 Heartwood Storyteller
1 Great Sable Stag
1 Eternal WitnessFoil
1 Caller of the Claw
1 Wolfbriar ElementalFoil
1 Obstinate baloth
1 Wickerbough ElderFoil
1 Vengevine
1 Spike Weaver
1 Phantom CentaurFoil
1 Nantuko VigilanteFoil
1 Masked Admirers
1 KarstodermFoil
1 Iwamori of the Open FistFoil
1 Ifh-Biff Efreet
1 Acidic SlimeFoil
1 Rampaging BalothsFoil
1 Cliffrunner Behemoth
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 BlastodermFoil
1 Thornling
1 Molder Slug
1 Kodama of the North TreeFoil
1 Hystrodon
1 Genesis
1 Deranged Hermit
1 Ant QueenFoil
1 Silvos, Rogue Elemental
//Spells:
1 Vines of VastwoodFoil
1 RancorFoil
1 Nature's ClaimFoil
1 Exploration
1 Crop Rotation
1 Berserk
1 Sylvan MightFoil
1 Sylvan Library
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Regrowth
1 NaturalizeFoil
1 Life from the Loam
1 FarseekFoil
1 Squirrel Nest
1 Search for TomorrowFoil
1 Primal BoostFoil
1 Moldervine CloakFoil
1 Krosan GripFoil
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Cultivate
1 Harrow
1 Call of the Herd
1 Stonewood Invocation
1 Momentous FallFoil
1 Creeping MoldFoil
1 Might of Oaks
1 Harmonize
1 Garruk WildspeakerFoil
1 Saproling Burst
1 Plow Under
1 All Suns' Dawn
1 Summoning Trap
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Hurricane
//Utility:
1 Isochron ScepterFoil
1 Ankh of Mishra
1 Crystal BallFoil
1 Smokestack
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Crystal ShardFoil
1 Cursed Scroll
1 Erratic Portal
1 Icy ManipulatorFoil
1 Ivory TowerFoil
1 Memory JarFoil
1 Mindslaver
1 Nevinyrral's DiskFoil
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Ring of Gix
1 Scroll Rack
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Staff of Domination
1 Tangle Wire
1 Vedalken Shackles
1 Winter Orb
1 Zuran OrbFoil
1 Obelisk of AlaraFoil
//Creatures:
1 Bosh, Iron Golem
1 Duplicant
1 EpochrasiteFoil
1 Etched Oracle
1 JuggernautFoil
1 Karn, Silver GolemFoil
1 Phyrexian Processor
1 MasticoreFoil
1 Wurmcoil EngineFoil
1 Razormane Masticore
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Sundering TitanFoil
1 Triskelion
//Mana:
1 Coalition Relic
1 Coldsteel Heart
1 Darksteel IngotFoil
1 Fellwar StoneFoil
1 Grim Monolith
1 Guardian IdolFoil
1 Lotus BloomFoil
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Mind StoneFoil
1 Mox Diamond
1 Prismatic Lens
1 Sol Ring
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Worn Powerstone
1 Azorius SignetFoil
1 Boros SignetFoil
1 Dimir SignetFoil
1 Golgari SignetFoil
1 Gruul SignetFoil
1 Izzet SignetFoil
1 Orzhov SignetFoil
1 Rakdos Signet Foil
1 Selesnya SignetFoil
1 Simic SignetFoil
//Equipment
1 BonesplitterFoil
1 Grafted Wargear
1 Lightning GreavesFoil
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Mask of MemoryFoil
1 SkullclampFoil
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Sword of Body and MindFoil
1 Umezawa's JitteFoil
1 Basilisk CollarFoil
1 Sword of Vengeance
//WU:
1 Absorb
1 Godhead of Awe
1 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
1 OverruleFoil
1 Swans of Bryn Argoll
//UB:
1 Oona, Queen of the Fae
1 Psychatog
1 RecoilFoil
1 Shadowmage Infiltrator
1 Soul ManipulationFoil
1 Undermine
//BR:
1 Bituminous Blast
1 Blazing Specter
1 Terminate
1 Void
1 Wrecking BallFoil
//RG:
1 Bloodbraid ElfFoil
1 Giant Solifuge
1 Sarkhan Vol
1 StormbindFoil
1 Vithian RenegadesFoil
//GW:
1 Behemoth Sledge
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Loxodon Hierarch
1 Mirari's Wake
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Wilt-Leaf Liege
//WB:
1 Desolation Angel
1 Mortify
1 Stillmoon Cavalier
1 Tidehollow ScullerFoil
1 Unmake
1 Vindicate
//RW:
1 Ajani VengeantFoil
1 Brion StoutarmFoil
1 Figure of DestinyFoil
1 Goblin TrenchesFoil
1 Lightning Helix
//UR:
1 Electrolyze
1 Fire // IceFoil
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
1 Prophetic Bolt
1 Spellbound DragonFoil
//UG:
1 Lorescale CoatlFoil
1 Mystic Snake
1 Simic Sky Swallower
1 Trygon Predator
1 Voidslime
//BG:
1 Maelstrom PulseFoil
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Putrefy
1 Putrid Leech
1 SpiritmongerFoil
//3 Color:
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
//Fixers:
1 Badlands
1 Bayou
1 Plateau
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
1 Taiga
1 Tropical Island
1 Tundra
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Blood Crypt
1 Breeding Pool
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Steam Vents
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
1 Watery Grave
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Flooded Strand
1 Marsh Flats
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Vivid CragFoil
1 Vivid CreekFoil
1 Vivid GroveFoil
1 Vivid Marsh
1 Vivid MeadowFoil
1 Arcane SanctumFoil
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Celestial ColonnadeFoil
1 City of BrassFoil
1 Creeping Tar PitFoil
1 Crumbling NecropolisFoil
1 Fetid Heath
1 Flooded Grove
1 Grand Coliseum
1 Jungle ShrineFoil
1 Lavaclaw ReachesFoil
1 Raging Ravine
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Savage Lands
1 Seaside CitadelFoil
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Terramorphic ExpanseFoil
1 Thawing Glaciers
1 Twilight Mire
//Utility Lands:
1 Academy Ruins
1 Dust Bowl
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Ghitu EncampmentFoil
1 Kjeldoran Outpost
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Maze of Ith
1 Mishra's Factory
1 Mutavault
1 Rishadan Port
1 Strip Mine
1 Treetop VillageFoil
1 Vesuva
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Wasteland
Haves/Wants
Collection
Adding Mortify
Cutting:
Iridescent Angel
Pride of the Clouds
Spite/Malice
Ashenmoor Gouger
Hellhole rats
Tattermunge Maniac
Burning-Tree Shaman
Novablast Wurm
Death grasp
Angel of Despair
Rise of the Hobgoblins
Goblin Legionaire
Double Negative
Call the Skybreaker
Spitting Image
Snakeform
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Necrogenesis
All Tri-Color Except for Nicol Bolas
Platinum Angel to Wurmcoil Engine
Faceless Butcher to Skinrender
Crovax, Ascendant Hero to Sun Titan
Hoofprints of the Stag to Whipcorder
Judge Unworthy to Journey to Nowhere
Jihad to Glorious Anthem
Preacher to Scepter of Dominance
Windborn Muse to Kor Sanctifiers
Winds of Rath to Mana Tithe
Voice of All to Mirror Entity
Old Man of the Sea to Aether Adept
Read the Runes to Condesend
Sun Ce to Draining Whelk
Treasure Hunt to Into the Roil
Brilliant Plan to Enclave Cryptologist
Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet to Grave Titan
Tainted Pact to Doom Blade
Stromgald Crusader to Liliana's Specter
Ogre Arsonist to Hell's Thunder
Mogg Flunkies to Hellspark Elemental
Sonic Burst to Flame Slash
Fiery Temper to Arc Lightning
Goblin Settler to Dwarven Blastminer
Brooding Saurian to Creeping Mold
Erhnam Djinn to Rampaging baloths
Forgotten Ancient to Acidic Slime
Chaos Orb to Engineered Explosives
Grid Monitor to Phyrexian Processor
Helm of Obedience to Erratic Portal
Ark of Blight to Smokestack
Adding Knight of the Meadowgrain
Adding Condemn
Adding Lone Missionary
Adding Flickerwisp
Adding Inkwell Leviathan
Adding Ancestral Visions
Adding Kira Glass Spinner
Adding Time Spiral
Adding Rite of Replication
Subtract Dominating Licid
Adding Dark Ritual
Adding Black Knight
Adding Yawgmoth's Will
Adding Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
Subtracting Predatory Nightstalker
Adding Reanimate
Adding Inferno Titan
Adding Pryoclasm
Subtract Obliterate
Adding Forked Bolt
Adding Firebolt
Adding Browbeat
Adding Magus of the Scroll
Subtract Flowstone Flood
Adding Fauna Shaman
Adding Lotus Cobra
Adding Cultivate
Adding Obstinate Baloth
Adding Basilisk Collar
Adding Isochron Scepter
Adding Crystal ball
Adding Sword of Vengence
Adding Obelisk of Alara
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Other than that, eodolon's list is a good place to start if you don't have a lot of time to playtest and you're looking for some "tried and true" inclusions. His program takes your cube and automatically compares it to other cubes of similar sizes. So those results are pretty much the same one we'd give you over time anyways.
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Creeping Mold---> Slice in Twain. Same cost, instant, and draw in place of ld.
Engineered Explosives---> Ratchet Bomb. Doesnt require you to play a 2+ color deck. Down side: Cant blow stuff up the turn you put a counter on it.. too slow?
Masticore---> Molten Tail Mastisore. same cc, same p/t. but lets you re-use cards in grave for another purpose (4 damage to either player or creature compared to 1 damage to creature).
Also like Wurmcoil Engine. What do you think?
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Replaced Grim Tutor with Cruel Tutor. I have enough draw abilities that on top of library should be no problem. Save a life and doesnt require BB. Will test more.
Replaced Burning of Xyine with Destructive Force. Helps gett rid of more fatties. Again, will be testing it.
Replacing Brilliant Plan with Jace's Ingenuity. Instant draw is awesome.
Replaced Bonesplitter with Sword of Body and Mind
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D-force out--> Burning of Xinye in
SoM considerations:
Mask of Memory--> Infiltration Lens. Cheaper to cast. And you either get the damage through or get the bonus.
Faceless Butcher-->Skinrender. Has bigger fists and can kill a creature rather than just moving it.
Platinum Angel--> Wurmcoil Engine.
Admonition Angel--> Sunblast Angel.
Anowon--> Geth
Grafted Wargear--> Nim Deathmantle
Bosh--> Molten-Tail Masticore
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I don't think you should leave the Mantle out, necessarily... I just wouldn't cut the Wargear for it.
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Platinum Angel--> Wurmcoil Engine
Faceless Butcher--> Skinrender
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Iridescent Angel
Pride of the Clouds
Spite/Malice
Blazing Specter--> Ashenmoor Gouger
Hellhole rats
Tattermunge Maniac
Stormbind--> Burning-Tree Shaman
Novablast Wurm
Death grasp
Rise of the Hobgoblins
Goblin Trenches
Double Negative
Call the Skybreaker
Spitting Image
Snakeform
Nath of the Gilt-Leaf
Necrogenesis
All Tri-Color Except for Nicol Bolas
Thoughts? Will be testing this tonight...
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keep blazing specter, lose ashenmoor gouger and/or wrecking ball.
keep stormbind, lose burning-tree shaman or vithian renegades.
i like mirari's wake more than wilt-leaf liege, loxodon hierarch, and behemoth sledge.
desolation angel is the second best w/b card you run. i'd drop every card on that list except vindicate before i dropped the angel. also, you need to get a mortify.
the only 3 color card in your cube that you shouldn't cut is nicol bolas, planeswalker. the rest can go.
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sounds good. vithian renegades is a great card, in either color it would be an autoinclude. the only reason not to include it is the smaller multicolor sections. it is outclassed by its competitors.