Armada Wurm
This little guy didnt have a thread or i couldnt find it, i searched the forum, and i believe he at least competes with the other gw cards
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When ~ enters the battlefield put a 5/5 wurm creature token with trample into play.
5/5
I think he needed a little more to be a slam dunk inclusion in every cube( like lifelink or something) but in his current state, id still say he competes with Sigarda and other GW cards.
Id say hes on par with sigarda, he provides a different kind of fatty but he is still a fun card to play and unique.
He is a super insane fatty and I would love that card so much if it was mono green. As is, I think he is outclassed by the other Selesnya cards that are more important.
The Wurm has certainly Titan power level and would be an instant inclusion as a mono green card. The only thing holding it back is that it belongs to a guild that has already plenty other options and that tends to get more aggressive decks than controlish ones. This means that you need either a large multicolor section or prefer slower GW decks to give the Wurm a place in your cube.
My green has moved to ful-throated ramp and has sacrificed some Aggro. But for me this guys is crazy. I play natural order, GSZ, POD as well as worldy tutor and Eldamri's call, so seeing this guy on turns 3-4 is easily possible. The casting cost makes him kind of unlikely for reanimator, or a bant finisher.
I also like that he is 6 CMC. 4 and 5 mana cost is getting stcked and the bar was raised for what is good enough at 6. He qualifies.
The Wurm has certainly Titan power level and would be an instant inclusion as a mono green card.
I think every Titan is significantly stronger than the wurm. It's far more color intensive and doesn't provide as great an impact as any of them aside maybe Primeval Titan.
I would be only slightly more likely to play it at 2GGGG.
I think he is fantastic, going into slot 5 for my cube. Worth noting that atm Loam Lion is sitting in the white section so he would technically be #6 I guess.
I think I like this more than Sigarda, although its evasion and immunity to spot removal is less. For the extra green, he makes it up for double the power and potential for pod, animator, and restoration shenanigans.
The Titan comparison makes me sad though (Titans totally ruined the 6 slot, didn't they?)
Clergy en-Vec beats everything. Especially with its flavor text.
Agreed. Ekundu Cyclops is also pretty bad. The entire card is a dick joke.
I actually have a Clergy en-Vec sleeved up for the cube, we use it as a token for various things. People are like, "Why is this here?" And we just tell them to look at it. Some people don't get it right away, so we have to point out the art and flavor text.
Unlike Ekundu Cyclops, that card is completely unintentional which makes it so much funnier.
Armada Wurm is a comfortable joint fourth with Sigarda and KotR for me. It depends what you want out of that slot. Amazing card, and I wish it were monogreen to give me the 6CMC beater I've been looking for.
I think every Titan is significantly stronger than the wurm.
I think the Wurm is somewhere between Broodmate Dragon and Grave Titan. Sure, the Titan gets more power on the board once he attacks, but when he doesn't, two 5/5 tramplers are better than a 6/6 and two 2/2s.
While the Wurm is powerful, I don't really like him for my GW section. He costs too much to fit into an aggro deck (unlike Sigarda, which can be squeezed in as a single 5-drop to top the curve) and control decks very seldomly support double green in my cube (while they can splash a single green for Sigarda). This leaves it purely for midrange decks and a few ramp decks. I'd rather have my multicolor cards be more flexible - their casting cost is restrictive enough.
While the Wurm is powerful, I don't really like him for my gw section. He costs too much to fit into an aggro deck (unlike Sigarda, which can be squeezed in as a single 5-drop to top the curve) and control decks very seldomly support double green in my cube (while they can splash a single green for Sigarda). This leaves it purely for midrange decks and a few ramp decks. I'd rather have my multicolor cards be more flexible - their casting cost is restrictive enough.
Whereas I'd rather use a card that fills a role like no other card can. The Wurm is an awesome target for Natural Order, and plays better with Pod. In addition to that, it fills a spot in the curve that both colors don't have many targets for. White and Green have a total of 2 6-drops between them. The Wurm would be the third. Whereas Sigarda is the tenth 5-drop, and doesn't do anything for the archetypes W/G typically plays towards. And for one extra mana, you get twice as many threats, and twice as much power.
I'm not a huge Sigarda fan (I run her, but if she left the cube I wouldn't be too heartbroken), but I think the Wurm is awesome. Given the choice I'd go with the two 5/5's in a heartbeat. It's both more efficient and has interesting interactions with more cards.
People have been putting it in recently and it's been very well received here. It's not the best cards but everyone loves it so it stays.
I'd just like to say now that I've had Birthing Pod in my cube since its release. It's been good, but it's often hard to get it to work. Sometimes you just end up with no six drops.
But yeah, I feel like Pod is a valid argument for including something like Wurm over Sigarda. I'm still on the fence about it, though. I don't like taking out cards that just came out with the last set for cards that are coming out with the new set. I don't feel like I cube enough to have given that card enough time to show it's worth.
Pod is good. It's a build around me around the strength of Opposition and it gives green something else to do besides ramping and throwing down creatures. Re: the debate between Sigarda and Wurm, I would pick Wurm hands down. Hexproof is simply not a very interesting mechanic. CITP triggers on the other hand create much more interesting on the board interaction. Given the sheer magnitude of all the cards we have at our disposal, we should be limiting the amount of hexproof creatures that serve no great purpose and do not create more interesting decision trees during draft, deckbuilding, and play.
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This little guy didnt have a thread or i couldnt find it, i searched the forum, and i believe he at least competes with the other gw cards
2GGWW
When ~ enters the battlefield put a 5/5 wurm creature token with trample into play.
5/5
I think he needed a little more to be a slam dunk inclusion in every cube( like lifelink or something) but in his current state, id still say he competes with Sigarda and other GW cards.
Id say hes on par with sigarda, he provides a different kind of fatty but he is still a fun card to play and unique.
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Would be my rating, although many would probably like him more than the Charm.
10-power for 6 mana is a lot, and it has evasion, low competition, and it can be targeted by Pod, GSZ and Natural Order. Like it a lot.
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I also like that he is 6 CMC. 4 and 5 mana cost is getting stcked and the bar was raised for what is good enough at 6. He qualifies.
I think every Titan is significantly stronger than the wurm. It's far more color intensive and doesn't provide as great an impact as any of them aside maybe Primeval Titan.
I would be only slightly more likely to play it at 2GGGG.
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The Titan comparison makes me sad though (Titans totally ruined the 6 slot, didn't they?)
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Yeah, when I first saw it the only thing I could see was *****. It took me like 10 seconds to actually see a wurm.
There are some cards in the cube that just have atrociously suggestive art. Spikeshot Elder, anyone?
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Agreed. Ekundu Cyclops is also pretty bad. The entire card is a dick joke.
I actually have a Clergy en-Vec sleeved up for the cube, we use it as a token for various things. People are like, "Why is this here?" And we just tell them to look at it. Some people don't get it right away, so we have to point out the art and flavor text.
Unlike Ekundu Cyclops, that card is completely unintentional which makes it so much funnier.
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Armada Wurm is a comfortable joint fourth with Sigarda and KotR for me. It depends what you want out of that slot. Amazing card, and I wish it were monogreen to give me the 6CMC beater I've been looking for.
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I think the Wurm is somewhere between Broodmate Dragon and Grave Titan. Sure, the Titan gets more power on the board once he attacks, but when he doesn't, two 5/5 tramplers are better than a 6/6 and two 2/2s.
While the Wurm is powerful, I don't really like him for my GW section. He costs too much to fit into an aggro deck (unlike Sigarda, which can be squeezed in as a single 5-drop to top the curve) and control decks very seldomly support double green in my cube (while they can splash a single green for Sigarda). This leaves it purely for midrange decks and a few ramp decks. I'd rather have my multicolor cards be more flexible - their casting cost is restrictive enough.
Uril, the Miststalker RGW -- Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre C -- Vhati il-Dal BG -- Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer RW -- Animar, Soul of Elements URG
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker R -- Maga, Traitor to Mortals B -- Ghave, Guru of Spores BGW -- Sliver Hivelord WUBRG
Whereas I'd rather use a card that fills a role like no other card can. The Wurm is an awesome target for Natural Order, and plays better with Pod. In addition to that, it fills a spot in the curve that both colors don't have many targets for. White and Green have a total of 2 6-drops between them. The Wurm would be the third. Whereas Sigarda is the tenth 5-drop, and doesn't do anything for the archetypes W/G typically plays towards. And for one extra mana, you get twice as many threats, and twice as much power.
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I don't know, is it? Do you play Birthing Pod? If so, ya ...I think it's worth mentioning.
Recurring Nightmare and Sneak Attack too. And Mimic Vat. But maybe those also aren't "worthwhile arguments".
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Birthing Pod can be really good if drafted around. I would try it out if you havent.
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Don't take it like that, I didn't know people actually played Birthing Pod other than the MODO cube.
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People have been putting it in recently and it's been very well received here. It's not the best cards but everyone loves it so it stays.
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Ya dude. Pod's pretty good.
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Its also one of the most fun cards in cube.
I'd just like to say now that I've had Birthing Pod in my cube since its release. It's been good, but it's often hard to get it to work. Sometimes you just end up with no six drops.
But yeah, I feel like Pod is a valid argument for including something like Wurm over Sigarda. I'm still on the fence about it, though. I don't like taking out cards that just came out with the last set for cards that are coming out with the new set. I don't feel like I cube enough to have given that card enough time to show it's worth.
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