I quit because I have 8 days of nothing but losses in Normals. About 20 games in the past 8 days. Worst yet, my teams have never been an even match with the opposing team. Closest game was 2 towers destroyed with 17 enemies killed to their 45. I've had it with the matchmaking system. It does not match players by skill. It's total trash and the abuse is really annoying. I never get this abuse when I play Magic. Right thing to do, or not?
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2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I found that the culture was similar to the short heads you saw in WC3. There were some awesome teammates and awesome people that were in your tier that you could fight.
Were you in Bronze Tier? I've heard many bad things about that ranking for some reason, because that seems to be where the trihards live and angst against each other. But, yea there are so many other games to play out there. Try board gaming with friends or something like Catan or Pandemic or some other video game that you play with your friends.
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I played for a few years, stopped for a few years, went back for a few months, and quit again.
As it stands, I have a number of complaints about these type of games which make me not want to play them.
I dont mind team based games but there is such a direct synergy between how your teammates are playing and how well your end game goes that it makes me mad. If I play a FPS I can do well while my team sucks and still feel good about myself. I for whatever reason cant feel that way in these type of games because these games have snowballing mechanics generally speaking. Get behind and it "generally" tends to continue.
The community sucks and its not a game that is very friendly towards those who wish to just casually play it.
I hate that it locks me in for an established period of time even if I am super pissed its the type of game that you cant nicely walk away from it so I continue to get more upset as it goes on longer.
I quit playing but I have some roomates who play it a LOT. I think a few of them might be silver players but they put in SOOOO much work to even be that so its really easy for it to not be appealing to me. Its a game that takes a lot to master which is fine with me but there are so many other elements that turn it off to me.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
I've played a lot of LoL in the past. Went back recently to play with my brother (who is Diamond) and a couple friends and we had a decent time, but the game itself just doesn't hold my interest any more.
I played nothing but ranked since the start of Season 3, only playing normals for random games with friends who are horrendous. I hit Gold 1 at the end of Season 4 and plateud there, losing my Plat promos on the last day of the season, 0-3. I didn't play at all in Season 5 and I didn't regret it at all, but it's because the game lost my interest. I got into Hearthstone, Elder Scrolls Online, Halo 5, Destiny, etc. and just didn't want to play it any more and it had nothing to do with winning or losing or the fact that I wanted to be better.
If you're really looking to play based on skill, you should play Ranked. As someone who hardly played normals for 2 years, I had roughly a Bronze 3 ELO in normal games and was getting matched against Plat 3 to Plat 1 in ranked. So, when I played a normal, I would stomp players because the skill level wasn't close. The problem with normals is people seldom play seriously, build seriously, pick their champions seriously, and are more likely to make cheesy/reckless decisions that lead to them losing their lanes or losing the lanes of others by their actions. The other issue is, if you are like me, you are ruining the experiences of players that belong at that skill level because my ability had grown far beyond what it was when I was playing normals. I would have to play a ton of normal games in order to get to the point where my normal MMR was equal to my ranked MMR and I would be mostly ruining the experience for other players along the way.
Normals are never going to be the solution for you getting "good", "competitive", or "competent" games. It's a mixed bag, similar to ranked, but with far more variance and trolling. Quitting because you are losing shouldn't be your solution though and I think Ranked would be a better environment for you if you are hating normal games (if you play blind pick, draft normals may give you a better experience as well). As far as the verbal abuse, don't be afraid to just mute your whole team when things get toxic. Odds are the chat isn't saying anything useful once people are flaming anyway. It will increase your enjoyment of the game. People that rage in normals aren't the type you want to read anything they are saying anyway.
As an FYI, normal games are matched based on player skill, even if you can't see the numbers used for the matchmaking because they are hidden.
I think mobas are only worth playing much if you really want to play cooperative, competitive games with a large potential for knowledge and skill. If you don't have a thick skin mute people, if you don't like losing a fair deal of games to no fault of your own you better be a literal prodigy of solo queue.
The game frustrates me regularly, and the skill and sense I've built for the game are not that practically useful, but I enjoy being able to slowly and deliberately improve at (eventually master?) a game like this. If you don't feel similarly, and don't simply play with friends, I can't see much reason to play.
As an FYI, normal games are matched based on player skill, even if you can't see the numbers used for the matchmaking because they are hidden.
Although there is a normal MMR, the matchmaking is a lot less stringent than in ranked. It's possible to get 3-5 man premades against 5 solo queues, and much wider MMR variances.
For that reason much moreso than people playing less seriously, normals are pretty bad to practice. I made the decision a while ago to pretty much never normal queue unless playing around with friends, because it's just less enjoyable and worse for practice to play against people more spread in skill.
I don't understand what it is about MOBA's that make people keep playing them even when they hate them. I have friends that have this love/hate thing with League and rage quit the game for a month, play for a month, repeat. A game is played to have fun. If you don't have fun with a game, don't play it. I don't play League (I can't play anything other than RTS' from an isometric perspective, it just bugs the heck out of me) but I do play Smite as it suites my tastes a bit better. I like that I can play it semi-competitively when I want to (Platinum in both of it's ranked modes) but I honestly far more often just mess around playing with random people in Assault (ARAM). I don't really mind losing, though, as long as I had fun playing. Sure some games can get frustrating when people are being trolls or when the skill levels are really obviously lopsided from team to team, but that doesn't actually happen too often.
TL;DR version; you should be having fun while playing the game, even if you end up losing the match. If you aren't, it probably isn't worth playing.
I don't understand what it is about MOBA's that make people keep playing them even when they hate them. I have friends that have this love/hate thing with League and rage quit the game for a month, play for a month, repeat. A game is played to have fun. If you don't have fun with a game, don't play it. I don't play League (I can't play anything other than RTS' from an isometric perspective, it just bugs the heck out of me) but I do play Smite as it suites my tastes a bit better. I like that I can play it semi-competitively when I want to (Platinum in both of it's ranked modes) but I honestly far more often just mess around playing with random people in Assault (ARAM). I don't really mind losing, though, as long as I had fun playing. Sure some games can get frustrating when people are being trolls or when the skill levels are really obviously lopsided from team to team, but that doesn't actually happen too often.
TL;DR version; you should be having fun while playing the game, even if you end up losing the match. If you aren't, it probably isn't worth playing.
I'd be very surprised if you don't willingly do anything that frustrates you with your time. Frustration is a sign you're invested in something - someone who gets very mad at LoL probably takes great pleasure when things go better.
I liken it to being a fan of a sports team.
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I don't understand what it is about MOBA's that make people keep playing them even when they hate them. I have friends that have this love/hate thing with League and rage quit the game for a month, play for a month, repeat. A game is played to have fun. If you don't have fun with a game, don't play it. I don't play League (I can't play anything other than RTS' from an isometric perspective, it just bugs the heck out of me) but I do play Smite as it suites my tastes a bit better. I like that I can play it semi-competitively when I want to (Platinum in both of it's ranked modes) but I honestly far more often just mess around playing with random people in Assault (ARAM). I don't really mind losing, though, as long as I had fun playing. Sure some games can get frustrating when people are being trolls or when the skill levels are really obviously lopsided from team to team, but that doesn't actually happen too often.
TL;DR version; you should be having fun while playing the game, even if you end up losing the match. If you aren't, it probably isn't worth playing.
I'd be very surprised if you don't willingly do anything that frustrates you with your time. Frustration is a sign you're invested in something - someone who gets very mad at LoL probably takes great pleasure when things go better.
I liken it to being a fan of a sports team.
Frustration, sure, but outright anger? I don't do anything (voluntarily) that makes me angry, and MOBA's are one of those things that I see all kinds of people reach crazy levels of anger over and keep on playing them anyway. I've seen a couple of people that get that way with magic, but most of the people I know think that those people need to take a break. In MOBA communities, raging over the game seems to be relatively acceptable behavior, which I find really weird.
I'd say take a break and use those hours to do something less stressful. I stopped playing the last month due to connection problems and have found all sorts of new and less headache inducing ways to waste my time
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I'd say take a break and use those hours to do something less stressful. I stopped playing the last month due to connection problems and have found all sorts of new and less headache inducing ways to waste my time
I agree. I heard about this one card game that's all the rage. It has these mages that go from plane to plane and act as the Avengers. I believe it's called Hearthstone. Oh and there's Orcs.
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Played league since early season one. Got hooked by the vayne champion spotlight.
Was a league player. It was fun every now and then. But mostly it was just a different shade of flipping out, and then having to come up with a reason why it made sense for you to flip out. (Hint: It didn't)
I realized if I wanted to calm down and enjoy the game, I should let go of my expectation of winning, or more specifically, my expectation that my various investments into the game would be recognized. They never were and never would be, not to an extent that it would feel like an appropriate 'reward' for my investments.
Turns out without that massive attachment, I had very little reason to play the game. It's not very fun, lane phase is tedious at best. It's not skill oriented, at least for 'us'. I'm sure at the higher tiers of ranked things at least pretend to be serious enough that a team fight feels like you contributed. But most of the time for me it was 'Oh hey, it was a member of the enemy team that got caught out this time, we win this teamfight! And maybe this game! Weeeeeeew!'.
And while frustration is a sign of investment, you can walk away from most hobbies. League, and many video games, are unique in how they keep you captive for the duration of the match. I stopped playing entirely because it wouldn't feel right for me now to say 'Yeah, I've got some energy, feeling social, I'm going to queue up for a game and commit my future self to a minimum of 20 minutes of frustration.' With other things, it makes sense. Sacrifice yeilds perceived rewards. What does league have to offer me? Very little.
I mean, commitments like that are life, obviously. You're going to 'be trapped' doing things you don't want to be doing.
But for a video game? In the name of fun? For a game that isn't fun? As a hobby? Consistently?
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WU Brago, King Eternal, Long Live the King
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Worship the Dragon
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It was like a weight was lifted from her shoulders at that moment.
So, yes. Correct decision.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Your mileage may vary.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, that sounds like the store's fault. But no worries!
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
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2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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I quit League but kept playing ARAM mode because the games are shorter and people seem less mad.
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Were you in Bronze Tier? I've heard many bad things about that ranking for some reason, because that seems to be where the trihards live and angst against each other. But, yea there are so many other games to play out there. Try board gaming with friends or something like Catan or Pandemic or some other video game that you play with your friends.
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As it stands, I have a number of complaints about these type of games which make me not want to play them.
I quit playing but I have some roomates who play it a LOT. I think a few of them might be silver players but they put in SOOOO much work to even be that so its really easy for it to not be appealing to me. Its a game that takes a lot to master which is fine with me but there are so many other elements that turn it off to me.
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I played nothing but ranked since the start of Season 3, only playing normals for random games with friends who are horrendous. I hit Gold 1 at the end of Season 4 and plateud there, losing my Plat promos on the last day of the season, 0-3. I didn't play at all in Season 5 and I didn't regret it at all, but it's because the game lost my interest. I got into Hearthstone, Elder Scrolls Online, Halo 5, Destiny, etc. and just didn't want to play it any more and it had nothing to do with winning or losing or the fact that I wanted to be better.
If you're really looking to play based on skill, you should play Ranked. As someone who hardly played normals for 2 years, I had roughly a Bronze 3 ELO in normal games and was getting matched against Plat 3 to Plat 1 in ranked. So, when I played a normal, I would stomp players because the skill level wasn't close. The problem with normals is people seldom play seriously, build seriously, pick their champions seriously, and are more likely to make cheesy/reckless decisions that lead to them losing their lanes or losing the lanes of others by their actions. The other issue is, if you are like me, you are ruining the experiences of players that belong at that skill level because my ability had grown far beyond what it was when I was playing normals. I would have to play a ton of normal games in order to get to the point where my normal MMR was equal to my ranked MMR and I would be mostly ruining the experience for other players along the way.
Normals are never going to be the solution for you getting "good", "competitive", or "competent" games. It's a mixed bag, similar to ranked, but with far more variance and trolling. Quitting because you are losing shouldn't be your solution though and I think Ranked would be a better environment for you if you are hating normal games (if you play blind pick, draft normals may give you a better experience as well). As far as the verbal abuse, don't be afraid to just mute your whole team when things get toxic. Odds are the chat isn't saying anything useful once people are flaming anyway. It will increase your enjoyment of the game. People that rage in normals aren't the type you want to read anything they are saying anyway.
As an FYI, normal games are matched based on player skill, even if you can't see the numbers used for the matchmaking because they are hidden.
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G[cEDH] Selvala, Heart of the StormG
URW[cEDH] Narset, the Last AirmericanURW
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GOmnath, Mana BaronG
URWNarset, Justice League AmericaURW
GWUBAtraxa, Countess of CountersGWUB
GWUEstrid, Enbantress PrimeGWU
The game frustrates me regularly, and the skill and sense I've built for the game are not that practically useful, but I enjoy being able to slowly and deliberately improve at (eventually master?) a game like this. If you don't feel similarly, and don't simply play with friends, I can't see much reason to play. Although there is a normal MMR, the matchmaking is a lot less stringent than in ranked. It's possible to get 3-5 man premades against 5 solo queues, and much wider MMR variances.
For that reason much moreso than people playing less seriously, normals are pretty bad to practice. I made the decision a while ago to pretty much never normal queue unless playing around with friends, because it's just less enjoyable and worse for practice to play against people more spread in skill.
TL;DR version; you should be having fun while playing the game, even if you end up losing the match. If you aren't, it probably isn't worth playing.
I liken it to being a fan of a sports team.
Frustration, sure, but outright anger? I don't do anything (voluntarily) that makes me angry, and MOBA's are one of those things that I see all kinds of people reach crazy levels of anger over and keep on playing them anyway. I've seen a couple of people that get that way with magic, but most of the people I know think that those people need to take a break. In MOBA communities, raging over the game seems to be relatively acceptable behavior, which I find really weird.
I agree. I heard about this one card game that's all the rage. It has these mages that go from plane to plane and act as the Avengers. I believe it's called Hearthstone. Oh and there's Orcs.
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Was a league player. It was fun every now and then. But mostly it was just a different shade of flipping out, and then having to come up with a reason why it made sense for you to flip out. (Hint: It didn't)
I realized if I wanted to calm down and enjoy the game, I should let go of my expectation of winning, or more specifically, my expectation that my various investments into the game would be recognized. They never were and never would be, not to an extent that it would feel like an appropriate 'reward' for my investments.
Turns out without that massive attachment, I had very little reason to play the game. It's not very fun, lane phase is tedious at best. It's not skill oriented, at least for 'us'. I'm sure at the higher tiers of ranked things at least pretend to be serious enough that a team fight feels like you contributed. But most of the time for me it was 'Oh hey, it was a member of the enemy team that got caught out this time, we win this teamfight! And maybe this game! Weeeeeeew!'.
And while frustration is a sign of investment, you can walk away from most hobbies. League, and many video games, are unique in how they keep you captive for the duration of the match. I stopped playing entirely because it wouldn't feel right for me now to say 'Yeah, I've got some energy, feeling social, I'm going to queue up for a game and commit my future self to a minimum of 20 minutes of frustration.' With other things, it makes sense. Sacrifice yeilds perceived rewards. What does league have to offer me? Very little.
I mean, commitments like that are life, obviously. You're going to 'be trapped' doing things you don't want to be doing.
But for a video game? In the name of fun? For a game that isn't fun? As a hobby? Consistently?
Nah. Nah.
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaah.