Ryze is deceptively difficult though. He's a short-ranged champ that lacks escapes, so his positioning is actually very unforgiving.
Plus it's really tough being camped by junglers trying to shut you down (often a smart thing to do).
I have to agree.
The problem is that in top lane, the jungler camps you while trading off shutting down Ryze when you can try and feed the midlane and bottom lane. Camping works if your mid and ADC are good laners, but if not, then you're not really doing too much to help your team as best as you can.
Holy crap, the "new" jungle in the PBE looks to be amazing. Brings back memories of Season 1.
I loved the S1 jungle, so I am hoping this is close. The only problem I see now is it is currently a bit overtuned as Trundle can barely do it and junglers like Naut can only do two camps before needing to back.
To be fair, I've played at plat and teammates don't work together. I work with a bunch of high diamond players, ditto. The exact mistakes change, but the basic structure doesn't. There is no point at which you can rely on your teammates in solo queue - that's not elo he'll, that's just solo queue.
Forgive me for asking a noob question, but why do competitive/pro LoL team comps different from those in random 5s or low ranked? Specifically, the absence of a pure-ADC or Support. I am aware Jinx (ADC) is sometimes used right now + Nami/Thresh/Janna (Supp). I've always wondered why professional teams gyrate towards more top or mid-lane style champs. I'm assuming this is due to the raw power level -- how some characters are "strictly better" than others?
I've asked questions before about which champions to play, and I appreciate earlier feedback. Just wondering about this above question. Hope I don't get flamed or start a flame-war lol.
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I mean, hell, we're all on a forum for something that most people would describe as a "children's card game"...do what makes you happy. You are never too old to enjoy yourself.
Forgive me for asking a noob question, but why do competitive/pro LoL team comps different from those in random 5s or low ranked? Specifically, the absence of a pure-ADC or Support. I am aware Jinx (ADC) is sometimes used right now + Nami/Thresh/Janna (Supp).
The difference between the ranked 5 teams and the pro teams is strategy. Champion picks normally do not differ from solo queue unless it directly clashes with a strategy or meta. For instance, the worlds championship in South Korea saw the resurgence of Janna, a pure support. Vayne and Tristana were both pure ADCs played by all regions.
I've always wondered why professional teams gyrate towards more top or mid-lane style champs. I'm assuming this is due to the raw power level -- how some characters are "strictly better" than others?
Are you asking if the game is mid/top oriented or if the champs chosen are mid/top champs?
The difference between the ranked 5 teams and the pro teams is strategy. Champion picks normally do not differ from solo queue unless it directly clashes with a strategy or meta. For instance, the worlds championship in South Korea saw the resurgence of Janna, a pure support. Vayne and Tristana were both pure ADCs played by all regions.
@Raver: This makes a lot of sense.
Are you asking if the game is mid/top oriented or if the champs chosen are mid/top champs?
The second; how come the champs chosen are mid/top champs?
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The prophet was wrong! He's now at a record of 10-12 games guessed correctly.p
Thanks Argentleman;)
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Plus it's really tough being camped by junglers trying to shut you down (often a smart thing to do).
I have to agree.
The problem is that in top lane, the jungler camps you while trading off shutting down Ryze when you can try and feed the midlane and bottom lane. Camping works if your mid and ADC are good laners, but if not, then you're not really doing too much to help your team as best as you can.
Thanks Argentleman;)
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I loved the S1 jungle, so I am hoping this is close. The only problem I see now is it is currently a bit overtuned as Trundle can barely do it and junglers like Naut can only do two camps before needing to back.
I recommend watching the whole series.
Thanks Argentleman;)
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Welcome to a new level of elo hell
I have heard several D1/Challenger players say that plat is the hardest to climb out of/was the hardest for them.
Singed.
He's so strong.
Thanks Argentleman;)
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I've asked questions before about which champions to play, and I appreciate earlier feedback. Just wondering about this above question. Hope I don't get flamed or start a flame-war lol.
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The difference between the ranked 5 teams and the pro teams is strategy. Champion picks normally do not differ from solo queue unless it directly clashes with a strategy or meta. For instance, the worlds championship in South Korea saw the resurgence of Janna, a pure support. Vayne and Tristana were both pure ADCs played by all regions.
Are you asking if the game is mid/top oriented or if the champs chosen are mid/top champs?
@Raver: This makes a lot of sense.
The second; how come the champs chosen are mid/top champs?
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Easy, they aren't chosen.